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Given the way this story is going, I’m somewhat expecting a future where right-wingers refuse to wear masks but happily take the vaccine, while the left goes an

Given the way this story is going, I’m somewhat expecting a future where right-wingers refuse to wear masks but happily take the vaccine, while the left goes antivax and refuses to take it (because it was “rushed by Trump”) but continues to wear masks. Perhaps by our powers combined, we’ll defeat the virus!

takeda 6y ago
That's why they want to absolutely make sure it won't cause a damage. The vaccine in 1976 was rushed for political reasons and that didn't end up well besides hurting many people it is also still used as an argument why you should not vaccinate.
- shajznnckfke 6y ago
  I feel we are overweighting the importance of the political meta-game here and underweighting the real ongoing suffering caused by the virus (in terms of health, but also in economic deprivation). But if we’re going to talk about the meta-game, I think a swift return to normalcy after the vaccine is distributed could do a lot for the public’s opinion of the importance of vaccination. It could marginalize the antivax movement for decades to come.
  - takeda 6y ago
    Vaccine won't restore normalcy at least not immediately. > I think a swift return to normalcy after the vaccine is distributed could do a lot for the public’s opinion of the importance of vaccination. It could marginalize the antivax movement for decades to come. A bad vaccine could absolutely cause havoc. And do the exact opposite, that's why they are being careful. If our president wouldn't politicize it, they wouldn't even have to say it.
staticassertion 6y ago
Why would the people who refuse to wear masks take a vaccine? They think the virus is a hoax.
- codezero 6y ago
  Not OP, and don’t feel strongly, but I’ll give my opinion on what might make that happen: Mask is visible - sign of compliance. You can get a flu shot and not tell your ultra-right-wing friends. Even on the right there is a spectrum of course, and folks march to the beat with certain signals, masks seem to be one of them thanks to behavioral modeling from leadership.
  - partyboat1586 6y ago
    Right wingers who don't wear a mask are not motivated by their friends seeing them without a mask. They are individualists. They do it because they see it as resisting being controlled by anyone or subjugated. They are also heavily anti-vax for the same reason. The amount of pressure there is in public to wear a mask is enough that it selects for individualists as the people not wearing masks.
- shajznnckfke 6y ago
  I think if Trump were to triumphantly and controversially announce approval of a vaccine, it would become a badge of honor among his fans.
- outside1234 6y ago
  They think whatever Trump tells them to think. So if Trump tells them to take a shot, they will take the shot (FOR FREEDOM!).

takeda 6y ago

That's why they want to absolutely make sure it won't cause a damage. The vaccine in 1976 was rushed for political reasons and that didn't end up well besides hurting many people it is also still used as an argument why you should not vaccinate.

shajznnckfke 6y ago
I feel we are overweighting the importance of the political meta-game here and underweighting the real ongoing suffering caused by the virus (in terms of health, but also in economic deprivation). But if we’re going to talk about the meta-game, I think a swift return to normalcy after the vaccine is distributed could do a lot for the public’s opinion of the importance of vaccination. It could marginalize the antivax movement for decades to come.
- takeda 6y ago
  Vaccine won't restore normalcy at least not immediately. > I think a swift return to normalcy after the vaccine is distributed could do a lot for the public’s opinion of the importance of vaccination. It could marginalize the antivax movement for decades to come. A bad vaccine could absolutely cause havoc. And do the exact opposite, that's why they are being careful. If our president wouldn't politicize it, they wouldn't even have to say it.

staticassertion 6y ago

Why would the people who refuse to wear masks take a vaccine? They think the virus is a hoax.

codezero 6y ago
Not OP, and don’t feel strongly, but I’ll give my opinion on what might make that happen: Mask is visible - sign of compliance. You can get a flu shot and not tell your ultra-right-wing friends. Even on the right there is a spectrum of course, and folks march to the beat with certain signals, masks seem to be one of them thanks to behavioral modeling from leadership.
- partyboat1586 6y ago
  Right wingers who don't wear a mask are not motivated by their friends seeing them without a mask. They are individualists. They do it because they see it as resisting being controlled by anyone or subjugated. They are also heavily anti-vax for the same reason. The amount of pressure there is in public to wear a mask is enough that it selects for individualists as the people not wearing masks.
shajznnckfke 6y ago
I think if Trump were to triumphantly and controversially announce approval of a vaccine, it would become a badge of honor among his fans.
outside1234 6y ago
They think whatever Trump tells them to think. So if Trump tells them to take a shot, they will take the shot (FOR FREEDOM!).