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That argument is a lot harder to sell since the Korea and Viet Nam wars. Not that I disagree with you. China does need to be reigned in, and we should have star
by dbcurtis 6y ago
That argument is a lot harder to sell since the Korea and Viet Nam wars. Not that I disagree with you. China does need to be reigned in, and we should have started years ago. But the leadership of the USA was mostly of draftable age during the Viet Nam war, or, like me, did their grade school homework in front of the TV news with Walter Cronkite reading the daily body count.
- hnarn 6y agoNobody in their right mind is arguing for a land based invasion of China, so this argument is completely moving the goal posts. It's not either-or, there are many ways to pressure a nation without military intervention.
- dbcurtis 6y agoTrue, but this is the ancient rhetoric almost word-for-word. The words are triggering for those of certain generations.
- bsanr2 6y agoBut the same generation was in power when we launched our twenty-year War on Terror, and the comparisons to Vietnam that started popping up a decade and a half ago didn't manifest in any sort of wariness to move forward and keep moving forward with our attempted "regime change." If anything, it's that which has changed our willingness to step forward militarily. The conclusion is that we spent our war capital on frivolous quagmires when real threats were looming but not being taken seriously. See also: cointel on BLM while white supremacists plan and execute with freely. Team America: World Police reflecting our actual police.
- dbcurtis 6y agoThe war on terror was not about containing communism. It could not be labeled and dismissed as “anti-communist hysteria”
- bsanr2 6y agoIt was about extending capitalism (well, democracy morally and structurally enabling capitalistic integration of ME into the global market), and also an extension of Cold War jockeying, which was anti-communist (and arguably hysteria).
- srtjstjsj 6y agoIt was anti-Islamist hysteria. What's the difference?
- dbcurtis 6y agoThe difference is which generation the rhetoric triggers.
- bsanr2 6y agoMillennials are triggered by neither communism nor Islam.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoEducated Millennials are triggered by communism due to the horror it spread in terms of body count.
- bsanr2 6y agoThe victims of Western-backed dictators, American regime change campaigns, and the crushing poverty caused by austerity mandates, economic sanctions, and predatory international capital investment terms would like to have a word with you. Also, victims of the Atlantic Slave Trade, anti-union riots, and lax labor safety law. I get that Mao is a high hurdle to pass but I think we've done it and then some.
- thaumasiotes 6y ago> China does need to be rei[]ned in, and we should have started years ago. Why? What would the benefit be? What would the benefit have been?
- treeman79 6y agoPerhaps avoiding Millions be put in camps and used as cheap source of organ harvesting.
- RustyBucket 6y agoThis is a weak argument: Should USA be reigned in as well to avoid millions be put in prisons and used a cheap source of labor?
- treeman79 6y agoWow, comparing punishing people that Commit crimes to wholesale genocide and organ harvesting.
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- ramshorns 6y agoYes.
- seanmcdirmid 6y agoSounds good to me.
- TheOperator 6y agoSure
- shirakawasuna 6y ago