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Apple (Pro) Mouse (2014)
- rienbdj 6y agoWho knew The Future would be so unergonomic. I detest that mouse.
- petepete 6y agoBeautiful to look at, awful to use - the polar opposite of Microsoft's Intellimouse Classic.
- jansan 6y agoI would rather say it's the opposite of a vertical mouse, which is a total eyesore, but as an ageing developer I can assure you that it is ergonomically far superior to all standard (horizontal) mouse.
- p1necone 6y agoThe current version of the microsoft intellimouse is so nice. I've got the new "classic intellimouse" at work, and I'm tempted to swap out my steelseries gaming mouse for the "pro intellimouse" at home so I can have the same feel everywhere.
- petepete 6y agoYeah I have one at work and one at home. It just looks, well, nondescript, but it fits my hand so perfectly it feels like it was tailored for me.
- na85 6y agoI used one of those mice. It was horrid in almost every way. The worst part is that the click had such a low activation force that if you rested the weight of your palm on the mouse it would click, and the side grips were poorly placed. Classic Bay-area "you're holding it wrong" arrogance in design. However, I have to say that despite that first extremely unpleasant experience with Apple peripherals I actually quite enjoy using my Magic Mouse, and the touch-sensitive surface is one of the more interesting innovations in a field that's largely been stagnant and where most "innovation" seems to be high-DPI lasers and RGB LEDs. The ability to use touch gestures on the mouse itself (i.e. 3-finger swipe on the mouse's surface to switch workspaces, 2-finger swipes for browser back/fwd navigation, scrolling, etc.) is pretty awesome and not something I've seen anywhere else. I'd never depend on it for getting headshots in counterstrike but for desktop mousing it tracks okay and the battery is quite good.
- petre 6y agoHad the Magic Mouse, it eats through batteries like mice eat through cheese and got a bit annoyed with it, changed for a cheapo Logitech or Dell mouse, used that for 5 years, then bought an entry level Steel Series gaming mouse which is better in almost every aspect. Then ditched the 2011 Mac @work for a Linux box.
- cgriswald 6y agoWhen I was using the Magic Mouse regularly I bought a rechargeable battery replacement that charged via induction on a little pad that plugged into the computer via USB for power. It worked great. (That said I’m using a Corsair Scimitar now and running Linux on my Apple hardware.)
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- nitinreddy88 6y agoTotally agree with this. Beauty doesn't necessarily translate to easy of use and ergonomic. Specially for people who uses computer for hours, ergonomics is more important than how it feels/looks in short term.
- rvz 6y agoSometimes, the multi-touch swipe functionality can be quite annoying due to the sensitivity of the mouse. For example, I could be trying to swipe left to exit a webpage but instead it is controlling a slider somewhere on the page. When I am editing text, I can't save the document because the swipe gesture on the mouse is unintentionally controlling another active window. I can somewhat live with this, but its annoying. As for Apple's standard keyboards for Desktop Mac or PCs, I hope you have a lamp somewhere as they still don't have any keyboard backlight functionality. Even some third-party USB-C wireless mechanical keyboards have this and are much cheaper than Apple's keyboards. Given Apple's typical expensive pricing with their keyboards, and the lack of a keyboard backlight, you might as well say you're left in the dark.
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- marban 6y agoI actually quite liked the Puck version that came with the first Bondi Blue iMac — Not super precise, but great for smaller hands.
- broken_symlink 6y agoI agree. I aas a kid around that time and I loved the puck mouse.
- olliej 6y agoThe follow up mouse with the scroll ball was much better - scrolling is useful, and it could be configured to have left and right buttons making it useful for people who know what a mouse is :)
- LIV2 6y agoThe scroll ball on the Mighty Mouse would always gunk up and was a pain in the ass to clean
- ArmandGrillet 6y agoFun fact: the author of this article now works at Apple in the Design team https://www.instagram.com/mnmllymnml/ https://www.instagram.com/mnmllymnml/
- blauditore 6y agoI try to avoid that term, but this is almost the definition of a fanboy: Actively ignores obvious shortcomings of a product and argues it should be loved for a non-functional detail (its marvellous look).
- pzumk 6y agoYeah he’s a fanboy: > Fun fact: the author of this article now works at Apple in the Design team (@ArmandGrillet, 2 hours ago)
- lukeh 6y agoApple, great products, terrible mice. Particularly this one. And the hockey puck one. And the Magic Mouse. Surely there was a good one at some point (maybe the ADB mouse?) but, I've been using third-party mice for too long now...
- duskwuff 6y agoThe Apple Pro Mouse -- the transparent bar of soap -- was basic but acceptable.
- Lio 6y ago> Regardless of what you may think of the Apple Pro Mouse, I believe that there’s something admirable about its stubbornness. This reminds me of Porsche 911 engine placement. Famously the 911 engine is at the back of the car which is about the worst location for it, except that Porsche are good at engineering and have persisted in making that location work very well for them. The no button mouse might not be great on its own but it leads to the no button track pad, which I’d argue is.
- agumonkey 6y agoApple rolled this synergy thing so many times (ipod -> iphone, iphone -> air) I wonder if this started even before that.
- traceroute66 6y agoExcept there's not much your Porsche engineers can do about fundamental physics. The possibility to kill yourself in a Porsche still exists, the only thing stopping you are the ESC/DSC systems which are, in all likelyhood, not made by Porsche anyway but OEM from someone like Bosch. Turn off the ESC and given the opportunity physics will still remind you who's boss in the Porsche.
- jonplackett 6y agoWhy were Porsche so stubborn about putting the engine at the back anyway, if it’s such a bad idea? I at least understand why Apple want a no-button mouse.
- Lio 6y agoI don't think it's fair to say they were completely stubborn about it. Porsche have used rear (e.g. 911), mid (e.g. 959, 917, 956) and front (e.g. 928) engine layouts over time. The 911 is iconic though and customers like its design so they've persevered with it.
- p1necone 6y agoIt does give them very unique handling. It's fun to drive an unstable car, and "fun to drive" is one of the main differentiators of sports cars from more mundane options.
- blueboo 6y agoGood design is the elegant marriage of form and function. This mouse has a nice form.
- futurix 6y agoWorst mouse I ever tried. But at least they learned for it and current Magic Mouse is a delight to use (on macOS).
- snypox 6y agoAt the company I work for everyone gets a MagicMouse. The pattern is that after 2-3 months of usage everyone gives up and switches to one of those Logitech MX mouses - so did I. MagicMouse is so goddamn uncomfortable to use if you ever touched a good comfortable mouse. It is now resting in the back of my shelf.
- emsy 6y agoThe Magic Mouse is basically an RSI you can buy.
- futurix 6y agoYou are holding it wrong TM. But seriously, I realised that I need to hold it in a way that is different from all other mice I ever used.
- Zenbit_UX 6y agoI ditched it too but for the track pad, I seem to be in the minority here but I find the MacBook pro track pad more than enough for navigating the OS and only really falls short for gaming.
- dgellow 6y agoThey look nice, but OH GODNESS they are awful to use! And I’m not talking about the buttons, but the general ergonomics. My main issue is that the shape doesn’t embrace the hand at all which becomes painful quickly if used every day.
- kumarvvr 6y agoExactly. The height of the mouse is less than typical ones and I had a hard time gripping the sides. Regular ones have sides that are curved inwards as they go down to the desk, this allows you to tilt your hand without actually losing grip. I just dont get how people like the magic mouse.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoThe magic mouse is exactly the right height for my (big) hands. I rest my forearm and part of my wrist on the desk, rest my index and middle fingers on the mouse surface, grip very lightly with the other fingers, and it's almost a perfect fit. If I turn up the movement sensitivity I can move the pointer anywhere with almost no hand movement at all. Most of the weight is levered behind the wrist rather than on it so I'm using forearm muscles more than wrist tendons. The fingertip touch scrolling is super-intuitive and equally effortless. I've used all sorts of mice from industrial Logitech blobs to gaming mice to tiny laptop mice to "ergonomic" designs, and the current magic mouse is far and away my favourite.
- thdrdt 6y agoUnfortunately I had to use this one and the old hockey puck at work. While the form is different the pro mouse is just as bad as the puck. It gave me a lot of problems with my (meta)carpal bones. The hockey puck is just worse because it's hard to see which direction is up.
- chongli 6y agoThe best mouse Apple ever made, from a comfort and ergonomic standpoint, was the ADB Mouse II [1]. This also happened to be the first mouse I ever used. It came with the Mac Performa 5200, the first computer I ever owned. Since then I’ve used a bunch of Logitech mice and most recently the trackpads on my various MacBooks. I still miss that original one-button mouse. It was so comfortable to use and so straightforward. The operating system was designed for one-button mice, so there weren’t any context menus or anything like that. Everything was driven by the menu bar at the top of the screen or by visible buttons and toolbars to click on. This made the interface a lot more discoverable. For power users, you had keyboard shortcuts which were also very ergonomic due to the placement of the command key under the thumb, instead of the control key under the pinky. [1] https://www.imagine41.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apple_db_mouse_2_001.jpg https://www.imagine41.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/apple_d...
- b123400 6y agoI bought a pro mouse 2 years ago and used it until few months ago. The biggest reason for giving up this nice looking thing is that, people no longer create UI that are one-button-friendly, especially when it comes to scrolling.
- mschuster91 6y agoOf all these mice, the Magic Mouse (1st gen) is the best - but all of them, without exception, have one flaw: they are designed for people with tiny hands. Microsoft's original IntelliMouse however? Just perfect - but unfortunately wired...
- iainmerrick 6y agoMany of us prefer a wired mouse and keyboard! Faster to wake up, more reliable, don’t need recharging.
- lolc 6y agoThe best thing about going wired-only is that it cuts down the selection to more reliable stuff when looking for a replacement. There's a bitter note to it because I'd really like to replace my bulky Natural Ergonomic Keybard with a Sculpt. But there is no wired version of the Sculpt.
- jsilence 6y agoI vividly remember an elderly customer who had the wireless version positioned upside down and was totally confused by the cursor movement. He thought something was wrong with the computer and asked me for help. I 180ied the mouse and he was embarrassed as one can get. We parted silently and we never shared a word about this with anyone. Good times!
- doctor_eval 6y agoHA! Classic! I once had a support call for a customer whose mouse had stopped working. I told him that I get a lot of calls and I was sorry to ask but: "is it plugged in?" Customer, who was pretty technical, was very embarrassed.
- boris-g 6y ago> there is no substitute for the multi-touch gestures and insanely fast scrolling you can do on this mouse Oh there so is! Used Magic Mouse for several years then switched to Logitech MX Master 3 because of bluetooth unreliability on the new mac mini and OH GOD WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS YEARS AGO. It's so much better ergonomically it's ridiculous. Like, are designers at Apple barred from using any third party mice? Do they not realise just how much their design sucks and how much better the alternatives are? I used to think gestures were neat but you know what works better? BUTTONS! It's so much faster and more reliable to go back and forth in documents and web pages using buttons. The right mouse button is there, physically, unmistakably, never accidentally "pressed" when I had the negligence to touch the surface slightly to the right of its imaginary centerline. Nothing is scrolled if I move my finger a tiny bit during a simple click. The battery lasts MONTHS and gets charged in well under an hour. And yes you can use it while it is charging. Scrolling is fine now, smooth and with proper inertia but you have to install their app for it to work properly. The only case where it kind of breaks a little is on some web pages that hijack scroll with javascript and do weird thing with it designed specifically for Apple's mice.
- rcarmo 6y agoI have a white one, and even though option-clicking was a pain, I sort of missed it when I moved to the new Bluetooth Apple Mouse. The design and aesthetics were just _so_ good, like a sugar drop.
- jbverschoor 6y agoomg that was the shittiest thing out there. So many accidental clicks. Also, the magic mouse with it's horizontal gestures are insane. I don't understand how some people I know like it so much. Apple trackpads are king :-) And I'd love to have a keyboard+trackpad combination, basically the bottom case of the macbook. Somehow the positioning of a separate keyboard and magic trackpad doesn't quite work.
- aikinai 6y agoI would also love this! In WFH I've been trying out some types of work with an iPad on a gooseneck (to keep it at an ergonomic height) and a Magic Keyboard/Trackpad combo on a pad on my lap arranged a bit like a Macbook but with the trackpad lower (in z, not y). It works well, except MacOS doesn't enable palm rejection with standalone peripherals since they expect you to put the trackpad beside the keyboard on a desk, so I end up with accidental taps far too frequently.
- m0xte 6y agoYeah I bought a Magic Mouse 2 earlier this year and regretted it instantly. Apple need to stop thinking outside of the box when it comes to mice. You’re right about the positioning as well. If you have a full size Apple keyboard the trackpad is too far away always. If you have the compact layout Apple keyboard it’s too much of a compromise with keys. Best outcome for me was turfing the lot and the Mac and getting a Logitech mouse and a TKL layout cherry MX red based keyboard. So much better. I’m sorry but the Apple input devices are inferior even to the lowest grade no brand stuff from Aliexpress at this point.
- aikinai 6y agoI'm happy with the compact Apple keyboards in general, but when I got an iMac Pro at work I wanted to try out its full-sized keyboard since it is nice to have all of those extra keys. To keep the trackpad closer, I decided to put it on the left. I normally use my right, so it took a few days to get used to it, but I quickly became fluent and the arrangement works much better. I also like it since it balances out my hands a bit more instead of doing absolutely everything with my right.
- jonplackett 6y ago> Let go of your hate. Accept what it is, let go of what it was, and embrace what it has become. I particularly like the sign off.
- Angostura 6y agoI've been an Apple user since the late 80s and from a usability point of view, I hate these mice with a passion, when I buy a new Mac, they always go in to a draw and my cheap old Logitech replaces them. Apart from the ergonomics of how they feel in the hand, it's literally impossible for the mouse to register both left and right click simultaneously, which means if I feel like playing the occasional game, I'm stuffed.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoThis mouse was discontinued 15 years ago.
- simonh 6y agoThe mouse that came with my new 27” also can only either click left or right at any one time, and not both. -> bin.
- simonh 6y agoI know, I quite liked the innovations in my first Magic Mouse. The touch surface was pretty cool and it looked and felt gorgeous. I thought I’d try out my nice new iMac with Borderlands. Point at target, right click to zoom, the left click to.... left click... left.... WTF?
- doublesCs 6y agoAlmost everything about Apple is driven by style instead of substance. That's one of the reasons why Apple is so successful - people are shallow.
- read_if_gay_ 6y agoSaying people are shallow is probably not wrong per se, but maybe a somewhat pessimist perspective. For example, you could also conclude that beautifully made products are simply more fun to use.
- doctor_eval 6y agoStyle is a part of the substance of an object; the two are not in conflict. Apple is simply one of the few companies that cares about style enough to make sacrifices in order to achieve it. And that's something I really like about Apple gear.
- rbg246 6y agoMagic mouse 2 is the worst mouse I have used since I stopped using mice with the ball inside. It's too shallow for my hands It has a rough edge around the back when it should be smooth, the cheap plastic top doesn't line up perfectly with the metallic base. And does tell you, you are low on battery until the day you need to recharge and you can't use it and recharge!! It is the epitomy of bad design. But that said I like the look of the older mice!
- doctor_eval 6y agoMeh, I love my magic mouse 2!!
- highmastdon 6y agoI honestly don’t see a purpose for a mouse when you have a state of the art, not yet surpassed trackpad. Of course it is mostly regarding the MacBooks, not when you’re using an iMac or Mac Pro even though the wireless versions are also a joy to use, except for the delay you get when you’re used to a built in trackpad
- dtech 6y agoUsing a trackpad permanently seems like a recipe for RSI, at least I will have pain in my hand for a day or so if I use the trackpad for more than a few hours.
- aldanor 6y agoAre you for serious now? Ok, try to log in to app.sketchup.com and play around with it. For instance, try holding the mouse wheel button and move the mouse around while doing it, to pan.
- fimdomeio 6y agoAnd after years of using apple mice to the point the cord would eventually break and where I always had to disable the side buttons because I just kept pressing them by mistake i just bought a generic two button mouse for 10€ that is a pleasure to use, a lot more ergonomic and that has already lasted twice the time any apple mouse I have ever had. One thing it will never be able to do is to look that good on a photograph.
- oblio 6y agoWell, if you're looking for an elegant mouse, this one looks pretty good: https://www.amazon.de/Logitech-Gaming-Maus-Hero-Sensor-programmierbare-Akkulaufzeit/dp/B07G5SF48Z https://www.amazon.de/Logitech-Gaming-Maus-Hero-Sensor-progr...
- nxpnsv 6y agoLooks aside, I never liked them much, somehow too light. I prefer the external trackpad, it's also pretty and not flimsy.
- gkanai 6y agoThere has never been a great mouse from Apple, except maybe the old Apple II mouse. The hockey puck mouse was terrible. This mouse was terrible. How they were selected to go to production says a lot about Apple's blind sides wrt usability.
- m463 6y agoIt's really fun to try to play a FPS game with an apple mouse. (fun = impossible)
- izacus 6y agoIt's funny how these pretty, but disastorous from usability perspecive, mice get this much attention where really excelent products like Logitech's MX Master series isn't even known by the geeks singing praises to Apple.
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- bayindirh 6y agoI'm using Logitech mice for a very very long time and their G700 and M705 are indestructible work horses. I also have a Magic Mouse for My MBP but, except it's touch surface, it's worlds apart.
- around_here 6y agoI wore away all of the rubber off the sides of my $28 G300 mouse before the button started to fail. Comfortable, cheap, amazing.
- washadjeffmad 6y agoMy only qualm with the MX Master S2 was poor Linux support. Everything else grew on me. I'm not really embarrassed to admit that I didn't know how to use my Magic Mouse for the first year I had it. The first generation was lighter, and my skin didn't slide due to the texture of the glass so I didn't even realize it was touch. I still scroll from the touchpad with my left hand or use hotkeys. Love your tools. If you don't, find ones you do.
- gen3 6y agoMy MX does everything I want under KDE. About 2 years ago the ability to tell me (and warn me) about my mouse battery level just appeared. It was quite nice to have an update that brought changes you wanted.
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- extremeMath 6y agoApple still designs for style and upcharging over usability. Not sure why people/Apple marketing insist on Apple products making them more productive. I can't agree on iPhone and I didn't find any speed increases on a macbook.
- breakfastduck 6y agoJust because you haven't been more productive doesn't mean other people aren't. Trackpad / mouse gestures are so convenient and useful for me that multitasking is so much more straightforward when I don't have the extra monitors. It may surprise you to learn that people are free to use whatever tech they get the most benefit from...
- jasoneckert 6y agoThis article was written by someone who clearly values the aesthetic of Apple's mouse over function. As a professional Mac user, each time I've purchased a new Mac that came with a mouse, I've always replaced it with one that fits professional use (currently, that is the Logitech MX Master series for me). While the Apple mouse looks nice, it's clearly targeted towards users who don't use their mouse for long periods of time or for graphical work. Many non-professional users I know and work with have replaced their Mac mice (of all generations) with a different one because of hand cramping. That being said, the black Apple Pro mouse was the nicest looking Mac mouse I promptly left in the box and never used.
- mumblerino 6y ago> it's clearly targeted towards users who don't use their mouse for long periods of time or for graphical work. Speak for yourself. The Magic Mouse fits my hand exactly the way I use it, which means it doesn’t “fit” it. Before it, I had a thick Logitech that was perfectly molded to be held; Too bad that my hand never actually fully touched it because I move the mouse with my fingers alone while the wrist mostly stays still. I don’t know any professionals who consciously slide the wrist across the table, moving anything more than the fingers. — Apple mice seem universally hated, and I’m not trying to change anybody’s mind, but I’ve held the same exact mouse since 2009 for daily work and I wouldn’t replace it (except for gaming, which I no longer do)
- sdflhasjd 6y agoI know a couple of people who suffer from carpal tunnel syndrome - and from what I understand moving your wrist is one of the things you're supposed to do to avoid injuring your tendons - anchoring your wrist and moving your mouse solely with your fingers should be avoided. In fact, the Magic Mouse seems to be almost antithetical to everything I've been taught about mouse ergnomics
- wazoox 6y agoI think you have it backwards. Ergonomic mouse-pads have a big silicone pillow to rest your wrist on while you move your mouse with fingers only. Switching to such a mouse-pad is how my wife got rid of CTS.
- OzzyB 6y ago- Apple Laptop $3k - Apple Monitor $1.5k - Microsoft Mouse $5 Doesn't matter how pretty or expensive Mac gear gets, the mouse will always be a good 'ol fashioned cheapo one.
- discordance 6y ago- Apple Monitor stand $1k
- travelbyphone 6y agoThey are really beautiful mouses. I own all except the Apple pro mouse (which is identical to Apple mouse). Loved the clack clicking of the Apple mouse and what a design piece it still is. The Mighty Mouse was an improvement in usability but looked bland in comparison, and the ball would gunk up. Magic Mouse is perfect. But it’s very common to see hate for it. I loved that design era at Apple. White and transparent plastic like the cube, first iPod, lamp iMac! Iconic.
- egypturnash 6y agoThis is kind of making me want to get an old translucent-shell mouse and paint the inner shell with some iridescent color so I have a pretty little shiny thing on my desk. Though really I never use a mouse except when I'm playing some game that's built around one, and they always want multiple buttons; I'm an artist and I use my Wacom tablet for everything. Much better on the wrist.
- draw_down 6y agoI can’t think of an Apple mouse I ever enjoyed using. Ironically though, their trackpads are way better than everyone else’s. I also prefer their keyboards, so all in all I’m pretty happy with their peripherals these days.
- lioeters 6y agoRecently got myself a Logitech Pebble. I've found it "practically minimal" - it does the job, it's cute, better than Apple's mice in some aspects. https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/pebble-m350-wireless-mouse https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/pebble-m350-wireless-...
- jherdman 6y agoI was burned a lot back in the 90s by Logitech's piss poor drivers. Has the situation improved much since?
- SaltySolomon 6y agoIts generally fine and just works on windows, usually on linux too.
- pixelmonkey 6y agoI find every modern Apple mouse super uncomfortable, and I don't think I'm alone. They are too small/flat and create hand strain. My favorite mouse to use with a Mac these days is the Logitech G305. https://amzn.to/3h0bqiU https://amzn.to/3h0bqiU Also, here's my review: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B07CMS5Q6P/R1KU320KW6ZI35 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B07CMS5Q6P/R1KU320KW6ZI3...) I also personally like having the Magic Touchpad around as a second input device, for silent mouse motions (for calls) and for gesture support. You can have both connected nicely and if you use the paid app BetterTouchTool it serves as a nice way to have a rich input experience while retaining the precision of a high DPI mouse like the above. Another minor gripe of mine is that the Apple Bluetooth keyboard/touchpad combo from the last generation, with AA batteries rather than Lightning chargers, are better than the current generation in lots of subtle ways, so I stick with them.
- DHPersonal 6y agoI prefer using an Evoluent vertical mouse on the Mac, though the most recent OS patch broke their software (for now).
- VonGuard 6y agoThat stupid little scroll ball was a piece of junk. It was just like an old mouseball: rollers got all gunked up and stopped working very quickly. Even faster than a real mouse ball because yer dirty finger was rubbing on it all the time.
- enriquto 6y ago> Steve Jobs was shown six different models of mice to evaluate. But Jobs was instead drawn to a seventh design, an unfinished model with the buttons yet to be built in. Jobs thought the buttonless design was brilliant, and the design team played along, pretending that it was their intention from the beginning. Oh my god, what a hopelessly toxic work environment! I just expect these designers were paid really well, for they had to bear with the assholery of such a callous boss.
- saagarjha 6y agoIs it toxic that Steve Jobs liked the partially completed design they left out? Or are you just trying to cash in to the "Jobs is toxic" meme by finding the one mention of him interacting with the design team in the article?
- enriquto 6y ago> Is it toxic that Steve Jobs liked the partially completed design they left out? No. But the way that the story is written, it seems that the designers where terrified of Jobs wrath if they told that he had chosen an unfinished prototype. Why would have them lied to him, otherwise?
- saagarjha 6y ago"Oh, you actually liked, that? Yeah, of course you did, that was my idea all along, I'm a genius" is a fairly common trope.
- kevinconroy 6y agoThe article omitted one of the best "easter eggs" I've seen on a mouse ever: the Apple Mouse's red laser formed the pattern of a cute mouse head when held at about a 45 degree angle about 10 inches from the desk surface. And it wasn't a "oh, I kind of see it" sort of thing - it was clearly designed to have a cartoon look and was incredible attention to detail for anyone who found it.
- wmurmann 6y agoI must be an outlier because I love the Magic Mouse. I usually lay my whole arm flat on my desk. Since the mouse doesn’t cause my wrist to arc I don’t get carpal tunnel. Big win there. I also rely heavily on swiping between desktops and I find the mouse works great for that. My one gripe would be the charging port placement being on the bottom. Charging up to a days charge doesn’t take very long but it is annoying to have to stop coding to charge it.
- no_wizard 6y agoI too prefer the Magic Mouse, precisely because of it’s integrations with the operating system. I’ve also found that for perhaps those who want (most) of those integrations you can replicate it with a multi button mouse (like those sold from Logitech or Microsoft) remapping those buttons to actions using either System Settings or in more advanced cases Hammerspoon[0][1] [0] https://www.hammerspoon.org/ https://www.hammerspoon.org/ [1] Sole reason I learned Lua Initially was hammerspoon
- smnscu 6y agoAh, Minimally Minimal. I used to read the shit out of his blog, but the posts became rarer and rarer until he quit it entirely. He (Andrew Kim) worked on the xbone S and then at Tesla for a while, no idea what he's up to now, but his blog holds a special place in my heart.
- karlding 6y agoHe's been working at Apple [0] ever since December 2018. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/17/18144421/apple-designer-andrew-kim-tesla-microsoft-xbox-one-s-hololens https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/17/18144421/apple-designer-...
- mas3god 6y agoI thought this article was satire until I read the comments
- ilamont 6y agoI always found it funny when watching Jobs' Macworld reveals to hear him gush about new mouse designs as being the best ever. I believe even one iteration of the "hockey puck" got this kind of treatment. Everyone knew it was baloney, but because the other new hardware was usually so interesting/good at these events, people generally didn't dwell on his mouse claims. In recent years, the wireless Apple mouse which had to be recharged by inserting a USB cable into the base (thereby rendering it temporarily useless) surely takes the cake for form over function craziness.
- caycep 6y agoIn contrast to the mice, which I've never really felt comfortable using, the Apple Trackpad has been one of the best input devices I have ever owned. Perhaps benefitting from all the UI/UX research into laptop inputs, swipes and gestures...
- peglasaurus 6y agoLove their trackpads. But their mice... not so much. I have a tiny travel mouse that has 4 buttons, scroll mouse and much better acceleration and surface detection and was bought for likely half the price. That travel mouse is deadly in games. The apple mice? Not as accurate. But they look good and that is what Apple were aiming at.
- bcrosby95 6y agoFunny so many people seem to like this aesthetic - I think it's ugly. The clear plastic case doesn't do it any favors. Whatever it gains from not having visible buttons it loses from the ugly floating grips on the side. It turns it from a sleek, continuous object with curved lines into a jagged, jarring device.
- filmgirlcw 6y agoI loved the Apple Pro Mouse and the Apple Mouse back in the day because Apple finally capitulated and supposed a damn right mouse button. I have never understood the resistance to that — even on Mac trackpads since the 2000s, control click is still the default option. The first thing I do on any Apple machine is set it to recognize the lower right corner of the trackpad as the right pointer button. Or on a Magic Mouse 2, the right top region of the mouse. The ergonomics old the Apple Mouse/Pro Mouse never really stood out to me, though I was a teenager when it was introduced and other than loving my Microsoft Natural Keyboard (that I sadly killed when a poorly-supported wax cup from a fast food restaurant leaked all over it...good lesson to 17 year old me), I was very much form over function as long as the basic function existed (which means the terrible Apple puck mouse and the Mighty Mouse were both dead to me). I don’t know if I could or would want to use an old Apple Pro Mouse today but I definitely would like one on display next to a G4 iMac.