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If you know Daniel, you know that this is one of the stupidest things the US government could possibly do regarding immigration. Daniel is literally one of the

If you know Daniel, you know that this is one of the stupidest things the US government could possibly do regarding immigration. Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. He created cURL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURL A program so ubiquitous that it comes preinstalled on every mainstream OS, even Windows. It has bindings for Rust, D, PHP and God knows how many other languages. It would be the equivalent of blocking a Senator, or say, Fleetwood Mac. I guess people just don't give a shit about programmers.

throw_m239339 6y ago
The irony is that whoever designed the US immigration information system are probably using CURL somewhere in their stack, thus Daniel's code.
- tehwebguy 6y ago
  That’s the headline he needs I think, “Homeland Security relies on his software every day, so why won’t they let him into the country?”
ilaksh 6y ago
To me it's just another explicit example of how the current government structure is obsolete. And I know people will say that it's just the current government is a bad apple. But why do they have the ability to screw things so fundamentally here anyway? And if people think they are going to supposedly get a "good" government next time, I can pretty much guarantee if you like the next government you will hate the one after it. Because it swings between extremes.
pmiller2 6y ago
Speaking of "blocking... Fleetwood Mac," a number of hip hop and rap artists have been denied entry to Canada due to their criminal records. For instance: > Entry to Canada may be a challenge to those with a record of criminal conviction, including celebrities looking to perform in Canada. Many rappers, including DMX, The Game, Lil Wayne, Coolio and 50 Cent, have been denied entry to Canada and unable to attend their scheduled performances. [0] Of course, one can be denied entry to many countries with a felony record, but a conviction need not be a felony in the home country for Canada to use it as reason for denial. If the offense would be considered an "indictable offense" (the rough equivalent of a felony) in Canada, then they will deny. Among other things, IIRC, DUI is considered an indictable offense, which causes issues for a number of celebrities. --- [0]: https://www.duicanadaentry.com/news/rappers-with-criminal-inadmissibility/ https://www.duicanadaentry.com/news/rappers-with-criminal-in...
- refurb 6y ago
  I'm actually completely fine with this. If your average citizen with a felony can't gain entry, why should we make an exception for a celebrity?
  - Scoundreller 6y ago
    And even then, they can still get an exception, it’s just a good idea to get it in advance through an immigration lawyer. It’s called a TRP: https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=152&top=8 https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=152...
bjornsing 6y ago
> Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. I’m sure he’s a great guy and he surely doesn’t deserve this treatment, but “one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today”? Donald Knuth is one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today... If Daniels claim to fame is curl then I’d say that makes him good at forecasting demand for an open source utility, or something along those lines.
- svnpenn 6y ago
  I guess youd also say that Einstein was just good at forecasting demand for Theoretical physics too huh?
gowld 6y ago
Daniel writes free software. Why would the US care if he is here, for selfish reasons? US can import how work.
shifto 6y ago
To clarify; CURL isn't in Windows. CURL in Windows is an alias for the Invoke-Webrequest cmdlet.
- DanBC 6y ago
  This post suggests that they're using real curl. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/containers/tar-and-curl-come-to-windows/ba-p/382409 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/containers/tar-and-cu... > Tar and curl are staples in a developer’s toolbox; beginning today, you’ll find these tools are available from the command-line for all SKUs of Windows. And yes, they're the same tools you've come to know and love! Running curl -V on my Windows gives me this. Is it wrong? curl 7.55.1 (Windows) libcurl/7.55.1 WinSSL Release-Date: 2017-11-14, security patched: 2019-11-05 Protocols: dict file ftp ftps http https imap imaps pop3 pop3s smtp smtps telnet tftp Features: AsynchDNS IPv6 Largefile SSPI Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM SSL
  - shifto 6y ago
    Which version are you using? In Win2016 if I try in CMD I get "'curl' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." And when I try in Powershell I get "cmdlet Invoke-WebRequest at command pipeline position 1 Supply values for the following parameters: Uri:" Edit: It seems to work in CMD in server 2019 and onwards.
    - DanBC 6y ago
      Windows 10 Pro, version 2004, build 19041.508

throw_m239339 6y ago

The irony is that whoever designed the US immigration information system are probably using CURL somewhere in their stack, thus Daniel's code.

tehwebguy 6y ago
That’s the headline he needs I think, “Homeland Security relies on his software every day, so why won’t they let him into the country?”

ilaksh 6y ago

To me it's just another explicit example of how the current government structure is obsolete. And I know people will say that it's just the current government is a bad apple. But why do they have the ability to screw things so fundamentally here anyway? And if people think they are going to supposedly get a "good" government next time, I can pretty much guarantee if you like the next government you will hate the one after it. Because it swings between extremes.

pmiller2 6y ago

Speaking of "blocking... Fleetwood Mac," a number of hip hop and rap artists have been denied entry to Canada due to their criminal records. For instance: > Entry to Canada may be a challenge to those with a record of criminal conviction, including celebrities looking to perform in Canada. Many rappers, including DMX, The Game, Lil Wayne, Coolio and 50 Cent, have been denied entry to Canada and unable to attend their scheduled performances. [0] Of course, one can be denied entry to many countries with a felony record, but a conviction need not be a felony in the home country for Canada to use it as reason for denial. If the offense would be considered an "indictable offense" (the rough equivalent of a felony) in Canada, then they will deny. Among other things, IIRC, DUI is considered an indictable offense, which causes issues for a number of celebrities. --- [0]: https://www.duicanadaentry.com/news/rappers-with-criminal-inadmissibility/ https://www.duicanadaentry.com/news/rappers-with-criminal-in...

refurb 6y ago
I'm actually completely fine with this. If your average citizen with a felony can't gain entry, why should we make an exception for a celebrity?
- Scoundreller 6y ago
  And even then, they can still get an exception, it’s just a good idea to get it in advance through an immigration lawyer. It’s called a TRP: https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=152&top=8 https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=152...

bjornsing 6y ago

> Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. I’m sure he’s a great guy and he surely doesn’t deserve this treatment, but “one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today”? Donald Knuth is one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today... If Daniels claim to fame is curl then I’d say that makes him good at forecasting demand for an open source utility, or something along those lines.

svnpenn 6y ago
I guess youd also say that Einstein was just good at forecasting demand for Theoretical physics too huh?

gowld 6y ago

Daniel writes free software. Why would the US care if he is here, for selfish reasons? US can import how work.

shifto 6y ago

To clarify; CURL isn't in Windows. CURL in Windows is an alias for the Invoke-Webrequest cmdlet.

DanBC 6y ago
This post suggests that they're using real curl. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/containers/tar-and-curl-come-to-windows/ba-p/382409 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/containers/tar-and-cu... > Tar and curl are staples in a developer’s toolbox; beginning today, you’ll find these tools are available from the command-line for all SKUs of Windows. And yes, they're the same tools you've come to know and love! Running curl -V on my Windows gives me this. Is it wrong? curl 7.55.1 (Windows) libcurl/7.55.1 WinSSL Release-Date: 2017-11-14, security patched: 2019-11-05 Protocols: dict file ftp ftps http https imap imaps pop3 pop3s smtp smtps telnet tftp Features: AsynchDNS IPv6 Largefile SSPI Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM SSL
- shifto 6y ago
  Which version are you using? In Win2016 if I try in CMD I get "'curl' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." And when I try in Powershell I get "cmdlet Invoke-WebRequest at command pipeline position 1 Supply values for the following parameters: Uri:" Edit: It seems to work in CMD in server 2019 and onwards.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    Windows 10 Pro, version 2004, build 19041.508