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In German the go-to method of "hacking" ATMs is blowing them up. I think they use some kind of gas to funnel inside the chassis and then ignite it. That seems t
by s9w 6y ago
In German the go-to method of "hacking" ATMs is blowing them up. I think they use some kind of gas to funnel inside the chassis and then ignite it. That seems to work exceedingly well, the numbers of that happening are insane. Is that not a thing in the US?
- fortran77 6y agoThey do get stolen by brute force, being dragged onto trucks with winches and chains. But not so much blowing them up.
- Scoundreller 6y agoProblem is the "towables" won't hold as much cash as built-in ones at a branch. And you still need to break into them later.
- Shared404 6y ago> And you still need to break into them later. I would think that after you had physical possession of the ATM this would be a non-issue. You're free to do whatever you want with it, as long as it's hidden well enough it doesn't get tracked down.
- handmodel 6y agoHow hard would it be though to have a small GPS tracker in the same secured area the money is in? I know there are a few instances of people hauling them off but it doesn't seem that well thought out or any indication this is successful more than other modest robberies.
- hanniabu 6y agoIf they started doing this I'm assuming they would put it inside some sort of faraday bag
- Shared404 6y agoI would assume that, as with anything else, unrestricted physical access == game over. A GPS tracker in the money compartment is an interesting idea, but I would think that it wouldn't be to hard to defeat with either a faraday something or other or just disrupt the GPS signal [0]. That being said, this requires someone to be thinking about it, which may or may not be happening. [0] https://www.economist.com/international/2013/07/27/out-of-sight https://www.economist.com/international/2013/07/27/out-of-si...
- ceejayoz 6y ago> And you still need to break into them later. There's not much a few basic power tools can't get into, given enough time to use them.
- Scoundreller 6y agohttps://whyy.org/articles/money-goes-boom-phillys-history-of-exploding-atms/ https://whyy.org/articles/money-goes-boom-phillys-history-of... Seemed to happen in Philadelphia often this year. Many gases could do the job with the right amount of oxygen. Canada had an interesting duo that used portable welders to cut holes in just the right spot. The travelled around a lot and hit 50 indoor ATMs after-hours (interesting video): https://youtu.be/HWg6GcthZi8?t=44 https://youtu.be/HWg6GcthZi8?t=44
- dugditches 6y agoWhile you can weld with a torch and they are portable(no electricity), don't really call them 'welders'.
- blacksmith_tb 6y agoThat sounds like it would certainly blast it open, doesn't it also burn the currency inside? Or is that well-protected enough it doesn't happen?
- xondono 6y agoATMs generally keep the money in locked boxes that are detachable. This boxes are designed for transport, and offer very little in terms of security. The blast pops the box out, then the box can be opened with regular worshop tools in a safe house.
- SilasX 6y agoI’ve seen ATMs that warn they will release a red dye when tampering is detected that makes the cash unusable. Don’t know if that actually happens.
- fmntf 6y agoThe trays do blow the red ink, however there are companies that (illegally) remove the unremoveable marking ink. Being part of a research group regarding ATM security was a really nice experience for me. It's a different world, full of unexpected things.
- ryanmarsh 6y agoMost ATM’s are cheap Hyosung, tranax, etc. they most certainly do not have dye packs. Source: I used to operate some ATM’s as a side biz.
- js2 6y agoIn Ireland, they just use a backhoe to cart the whole thing off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTe0cdxdSEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTe0cdxdSEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTyON6gPTFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTyON6gPTFI Ah, and here was a failed attempt to do the same in Virginia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2TSGyXejls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2TSGyXejls How much cash does an ATM hold anyway?
- partyboat1586 6y agoHappens in England too https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/23/ram-raiders-use-digger-to-steal-atms-from-tesco-extra-in-kent https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/23/ram-raiders-...
- foo__-_bar 6y ago600 bigOnes at most.