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“twitter.com no longer supports Internet Explorer 11” https://twitter.com/i/release_notes https://twitter.com/i/release_notes
by username3 6y ago
“twitter.com no longer supports Internet Explorer 11”
https://twitter.com/i/release_notes https://twitter.com/i/release_notes
- pedrocx486 6y agoAnd this is good. This browser needs to die already. I'm glad the company I work at also dropped IE in new projects and have plans to upgrade older projects too.
- kaycebasques 6y agoQuick check-in: who here is still supporting IE? Please provide as much detail about your website (industry, audience, usage) as possible.
- wilsonrocks 6y agoWe support IE11. Mainly high end websites and web apps about employee benefits. I think one of the main drivers of IE support is clients who will test in IE because it's their default browser or only allowed browser at work.
- nicoburns 6y agoWe are. b2b healthcare industry. About half our clients have Chrome available. The rest are still on IE11.
- etaioinshrdlu 6y agoIs it corporate IE policies mandating the use of IE11? I find this so fascinating.
- sushshshsh 6y agoInfosys still requires all employees to access internal applications (time sheet, banking) via internet explorer only. However the apps developed for clients are for Chrome
- coding123 6y agoI'm picturing Infosys developers using Chrome within an AWS Workspace connection... lol
- cjblomqvist 6y agoFootwear manufacturering/sourcing industry (meaning also targeting footwear brands). B2B with a global crowd; a significant chunk on old company computers (or phones). It's not many, but it's been quite steady at 1-2% of our user base. Since it's fairly easy to support IE11 (not pixel perfect) once everything has been setup, we have to keep it. We're thinking about doing a similar approach as Twitter, but it's not been prioritized yet.
- paulhodge 6y agoWe're a big eCommerce and we're still supporting IE11. We're close to dropping it but it still shows up at about 4% to 5% of our users. And it's not that hard to support IE11, just need the right Webpack configs and polyfills and etc.
- Leherenn 6y agoIt would be interesting to see if traffic drops by that much, or a significant number of those users keep using your site but with a different browser.
- adenta 6y agoI support Internet Explorer through https://quik.dev/ https://quik.dev/. It's essentially internet explorer as a service, seriously impressive.
- searchableguy 6y agoYeah, that's one niche market (or not niche?). I don't know of any competitors. I am really interested about their customers and how much revenue they are pulling.
- malinens 6y agoemail provider here. we have less than 2% IE11 users and we still support it as 2% more revenue is still significant amount of money
- xacky 6y agoMicrosoft has migrated nearly all non business users to Edge. Using IE gets big scary warnings to use Edge when using Bing and MSN and most consumer websites don’t support it any more. It is safe to assume that IE usage is forced usage by companies. Web developers should boycott companies that use IE.
- 0x202020 6y agoHealthcare B2B and B2C. B2B side has been moving slowly off IE11, but moving faster since the start of the year and with most of the rest of the customers targeting to be off of it originally by end of quarter. Currently sitting around 40% but if they go through with their plans to upgrade by end of quarter then will be around 5% B2C side is much lower, the users who visit not very frequently or are newer that use IE is low single digits. On the other hand we have some long term continuous use users who use IE at a higher rate than the B2B side
- Semaphor 6y agoDigital photography: news and testing, normal visitors are probably all on newer browsers, but during workdays, we get up to 3% IE11 visitors, this falls to under 1 on weekends.
- simonsarris 6y agoI make a JavaScript/TypeScript library (https://gojs.net https://gojs.net) which is used by many enterprise and governmental customers for their internal apps. I still support IE11 (and 10) because of that.
- laurent92 6y agoAtlassian has recently published their last Enterprise releases of Jira and Confluence which will support IE11 for 2 years.
- bigyikes 6y agoTheir cloud offerings dropped IE11 support earlier this year as well.
- fuzzy2 6y agoConstruction (planning), b2b, customer requires it support IE11. It's a web application. For some critical stuff, IE actually has less bugs. :-)
- lukevp 6y agoWe’re an e-commerce site, and target ie10+ but lately have been relaxing that requirement. We will likely move to no IE support in the next year or two.
- apocalyptic0n3 6y agoOur agency dropped support last week. Our metrics still show ~3% of all traffic comes from some version of IE (that's from the ~450 sites we currently host). It finally hit a point where it was holding us back design wise and adding too much time to be worth it. We're phasing out support so anything sold before the drop date is still entitled to it, but new projects and new features on those old sites will no longer support it going forward. The sites range from small mom & pop stores to restaurant chains with dozens of locations worldwide to large scale CRMs for larger corporations. We're all over the place. The sites we host, which often do not include our bigger clients, are doing about 30 million unique visitors each week across them currently. Not a massive amount of traffic by any means, but it's still upwards about 400k users we're dropping support for (in addition to about 500k on older versions we already dropped). Note: all of my metrics are coming from server access logs. Nothing complex any no front end validation of the browser versions (I don't have access to client-side Analytics for each site)
- shakna 6y agoI still occasionally maintain a website for a school, with stats that'll horrify you. Around 78% of browsers hitting the site are running IE8, and these will be parents making use of the portal to do stuff like check calendar dates, book appointments to see teachers, and check student grades. We tried extremely hard to move the community onwards, including outreach to upgrade computers for families and so on. But in the end, they just don't want to move on from Windows XP because everything else is too confusing. Even if you make it look the same. As for how often they're using the site... It's somewhere around 1/3rd of the parents hit it at least once a day using an outdated browser. ... Whilst their kids are using school-provided Thinkpads all running on Windows 10, or recent-ish school-provided iPads. (The school does all the maintenance on them as well).
- searchableguy 6y agoI don't remember there was any computer in any of my schools that didn't use IE exclusively and still do, I presume. Windows xp + IE + elicipse + office 2003 or 2007 I think.
- dyingkneepad 6y agoIs this in the USA?
- shakna 6y agoFarming community in Australia.
- Spivak 6y agoI used to work in school IT. If Google and Mozilla aren't going to step up their "managed browser" game then we're going to continue seeing MS and Apple dominate education. It's not like school IT depts like running IE, but it's basically the only browser you can lock down. "But you shouldn't lock down kids' browsers, and let them have blah blah..." Okay look, I don't actually give two shits if little Marcus wants to browse Pornhub on his school laptop, we're honestly not paid enough to care. But we do have administration breathing down our necks, school policies to enforce, and angry detached parents to appease.
- sdflhasjd 6y agoA recent project I worked on b2c, online insurance quotes, the audience is 25-50 ish. Previous analytics were indicating only a small single-digits percentage, but the customer wanted it anyway. The customer was happy for us to only cover "core functionality" and not visual and minor issues in IE 11.
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- zeta0134 6y agoI maintain the priamry website for a winterguard association in south texas. (Colorguard: choreographed waving of flags, usually alongside a marching band or performed to recorded music.) Because it's an educational organization, we must assume that members are operating on outdated solutions behind weirdly restrictive firewalls. I don't bother to fully support Internet Explorer for all features, but I do need to make sure the critical path at least functions on a basic level, and I'm careful not to rely on any dependencies (analytics, etc) that I cannot self host. Of course, it's the directors who insist on doing everything on their iPad that give me more trouble, as I don't actually own one to test. :)
- searchableguy 6y ago> Of course, it's the directors who insist on doing everything on their iPad that give me more trouble, as I don't actually own one to test. :) Shouldn't they give you one for testing?
- saagarjha 6y agoYeah, even new they're fairly cheap…
- zeta0134 6y agoNot really. :) This organization operates on a shoestring budget, and I volunteer my time to maintain their backend. On the odd occasion that the layout breaks specifically on an iOS device and resists local troubleshooting, I just borrow my Dad's iPad and check it there. I've had much fewer troubles since switching to Semantic UI's media breakpoints though; simply resizing my browser window to "tablet" size catches the vast majority of issues.
- mdoms 6y agoWhy do you have to assume the outdated devices? Can't you just check? This information is available in http headers.
- zeta0134 6y ago
- debaserab2 6y agoIE11 still accounts for 3% of our audience. We're B2B HR/performance management. Still too high of a % to ignore.
- MBCook 6y agoI do. We have to support Java applets (don’t ask) and 32-bit IE is the last browser left standing that supports them.
- generalk 6y agoIn the Healthcare world, computers frequently lag behind the state-of-the-art. Writing Healthcare IT webapps, we had to support IE6 up until ~2013. If your nation-wide pharmacy chain customer is primarily running IE10 on outdated Windows PCs they refuse to upgrade, your app had better be very well tested on that browser.
- Zarel 6y agoI maintain an online game, pokemonshowdown.com Gamers tend to be pretty technically inclined, so the audience mostly uses pretty modern browsers. I support down to ES3 (Safari 5, IE9) mostly because I can (I learned web dev back in the old days and still remember all the tricks), although it's nice to see fans talk about playing on obscure platforms like the Nintendo 3DS browser or a Samsung smart refrigerator. Animations are implemented in jQuery animations, and the networking is provided by SockJS (which can fall back to JSONP long-polling and even iframes if the browser doesn't support WebSocket).
- room271 6y agoWe still support it (www.theguardian.com).
- leipert 6y agoGitLab employee here. We just have dropped browser support for IE11 in May with our major 13.0. Nobody complained about us removing it despite us announcing it in January. [0] Already removed some polyfills, biggest win will be transpiling just for modern browsers [1]. This all ties in nicely with general performance initiatives. [0]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/197987 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/197987 [1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/merge_requests/36840 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/merge_requests/36840
- nabaraz 6y agoEcommerce. Among top 20 company in the world. We dedicate one month on every project just to support IE11.
- rowanseymour 6y ago"They still serve ES5 bundles for older browsers (the versions that are supported by Twitter)" https://twitter.com/wongmjane/status/1291405828843421696 https://twitter.com/wongmjane/status/1291405828843421696
- coding123 6y agoIf people stopped catering to non-evergreen browsers, do you know how fast people would start adopting evergreen browsers?
- cogman10 6y agoIsn't IE11 pretty much the last non-evergreen browser? Or does Safari land in that realm as well?
- sdflhasjd 6y agoI wouldn't regard Safari as evergreen, and it's also probably the most behind* (or they just outright refuse to implement) some APIs * of the modern browsers. edit: I'd like to clarify the reason I don't regard Safari as evergreen is it's tied to iOS versions. Enough users still use iOS 12 and 11
- Spivak 6y agoI really don't understand the hate that Safari gets for this. What's even the point of having different browsers if people get mad at any differences between them? Chrome, but made by four different companies is kinda the illusion of choice and competition.
- oblio 6y agoAren't they supposed to implement the same standard? Not much of a standard if people don't implement it.
- Spivak 6y agoThe standard just says if you're going to have $feature, this is what it has to look like. A web browser on a platform with no concept of notifications can still be standards compliant. A browser with no support for DRM can still be standards compliant too.
- userbinator 6y agoA site whose only purpose is to display short pieces of text, some images, and occasionally video somehow needs the very latest in software (which often also means hardware...) to do that, when those capabilities have been around for over a decade? Fuck the users if they're using anything older, force them to buy new hardware and create more e-waste, because we just want the latest crap regardless. That sums up the sad state of "modern" web development.