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Moldova Shuts Down Bootleg Helicopter Factory
- burger_moon 6y agoWhat a crazy story. Would be interesting to read a more in-depth article on underground helicopter manufacturing. I wonder how that would work in the US? I don't think there's anything illegal about building your own aircraft. That's basically what the EAA is all about I think. https://www.eaa.org/eaa https://www.eaa.org/eaa
- tlb 6y agoYou can build your own aircraft to fly yourself. You can't sell finished aircraft without certification. * complete rules are extremely complex.
- jacquesm 6y agoCan you give it away? What about when you die and one of your kids inherits it?
- kgilpin 6y agoYou can build and sell experimental aircraft. Here’s a marketplace of them: https://www.barnstormers.com/category-18671-Experimental.html https://www.barnstormers.com/category-18671-Experimental.htm... However, there are many commercial uses which experimental aircraft are not approved for. This mostly limits their practical utility to personal use (aka “fun”).
- alasdair_ 6y agoThat site is fantastic. Second ad on the list: “... please check with your wife first last guy didn’t $2700”
- nl 6y agoAnd this one: Was stalled on downwind turn, fell through electric wires, hung by last wire, communication cable, airplane came to full stop approx 10' off ground, rolled over on its back and dropped upside down on a clump of small scrub oak trees. No prop strike and no injury to pilot.
- cortesoft 6y agoSounds like the issues were around permits and regulations.... which would be a factor in the United States, too.
- cat199 6y agoin terms of legal basis yes it sounds like the realpolitik in this particular case probably goes deeper "Most of the people suspected of being involved in the production and assembly process, including the organisers and heads of the illegal operation, are residents of Moldova’s breakaway Transnistrian region."
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- celticninja 6y agoAs others have said, it's the export that's the issue.
- ogre_codes 6y agoYou can build you own, manufacturing and selling them requires all kinds of hoops and certification. I believe if you build you have to do 51% of the work or it's not considered experimental.
- cat199 6y ago1st i've heard of this as well (though i'm not in the loop on these kinds of things) that said, you might enjoy the topic of 'narco subs' which are illicit submarines manufactured to smuggle drugs (mostly from latin america to the US as I understand it)
- rumanator 6y agoPerhaps the story isn't so crazy if the operation is performed by bootsrtappy aerospace and mechanical engineers with experience building real Kamov helicopters but who simply don't have the authorization to do so. I mean, it's not the first time where resourceful engineers from former soviet republics show their skills to earn a living.
- Someone 6y agoIndeed. Reading the article and comments here, this, to me, looks like it could ‘just’ be a case of gray imports (on steroids). They could get original parts (but through unofficial channels), have qualified personnel use official tools to assemble a helicopter, test it and sell it as real, but don’t get external confirmation that they used good parts and followed correct procedures. Of course, without the external checks, it becomes easier to increase margins by getting second-hand parts, use unqualified personnel, don’t use official tools and do less quality testing.
- Someone 6y agoI think they also claimed it was the original. That’s like building your own aircraft, putting a Boeing sticker on it, and selling it as one.
- W-Stool 6y agoYou get to a certain age where you think you've seen everything. Then something like this comes along and you realize you haven't seen anything.
- systemvoltage 6y agoIt is pretty shocking from many points of view: 1) Are these people barred from legitimately selling helicopters? Perhaps some sanctions? 2) Making a helicopter fly with the right engineering and control system is monumentally difficult - doesn't matter if its a knock off, assembled from parts or OEM. 3) Where did they get the skills and how did they acquire them? Did they have the capital to purchase a few originals and take them apart? 4) At this point, why not just sell them legitimately? Regulatory requirements prohibitive?
- pvg 6y agoIt's worth keeping in mind where this happened - a place where there's still a lot of gear, expertise, parts etc kicking about. Nearby Romania was once a licensed producer of this particular type of old Soviet utility helicopter. Corruption is endemic and the line between 'legitimate' business and one that isn't can be blurry and change over time, both intentionally by the operators and due to shifting political fortunes.
- cameldrv 6y agoYeah and Russia has had a big military presence in Transnistria for a long time. They mention a lot of the workers coming across the river into Moldova. I bet they are all ex-helicopter mechanics for the Russian army that used to work on this model, and someone had the idea that they could make more money building the helicopters instead of fixing them.
- nineteen999 6y agoIt's possible that they didn't pay their "taxes" or grease the right palms, and were shut down.
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- vuln 6y agoMan if only Amazon had a helicopter section.
- ogre_codes 6y agoYeah right, these would be right at home next to all the other counterfeit crap they sell on AMZN.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoIt would fit well alongside the JL421 Badondadonk Tank, which has has sadly been out of stock for a few years
- duxup 6y agoWere these bought by folks looking to get a cheaper helicopter or bought officially and the price difference embezzled by someone?
- runawaybottle 6y agoThey probably colluded with state operators to funnel budgets for these things knowing they won’t ever be used. This probably happens a lot everywhere with everything. It’s only a matter of time until a small town has a million dollar cloud services contract for their, you know, digital services and stuff (to backup files ... and stuff).
- cat199 6y agoor colluded with the wrong state's operators.. backstory on this one I'm sure could be an interesting movie or 3 .. "Most of the people suspected of being involved in the production and assembly process, including the organisers and heads of the illegal operation, are residents of Moldova’s breakaway Transnistrian region."
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- mrlonglong 6y agoNow I've seen it all! Fake helos :-D
- jacquesm 6y agoWhat's fake about them?
- treeman79 6y agoCertification?
- SpaceRaccoon 6y agoSo they're not fake, but uncertified. They still likely fly.
- heavenlyblue 6y agoIs this really smuggling a helicopter or a helicopter smuggles itself together with you?
- yingw787 6y agoThere's some quality (?) bootleg stuff out there today. The other big one I've heard of is narco subs, not semi-submersible, but fully submersible: https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Ecuadoran-submarine-called-a-game-changer-in-drug-1611558.php https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Ecuadoran-su... It's rather fascinating what the human mind can do with money + necessity. It's a reminder that great engineers can come from anywhere (and hopefully brought to work on nice-people things).
- lowdose 6y agoGreat find! Thanks for this. But after reading I wonder how many of these subs can be out there crossing waters of the USA while the whole coast on both sides are monitored full time on irregularities by the US military?
- 01100011 6y agoIt's a big coast and the monitoring systems may be old and not suitable for detecting mini-subs. Much of the defense of the US was conceived for a completely different type of threat. We expected Soviet nuclear subs, not small battery powered craft that may not even be manned. I don't suppose it will be long, if it hasn't happened already, before unmanned drones will be delivering most of the illicit cross-border shipments. You could cheaply build a fleet of them and overwhelm most coastal defenses.
- 01100011 6y agoThe recent spike in radioactive isotopes had me thinking of this. If someone has a modest amount of money and no regard for safety, it's actually pretty easy to assemble a reactor. There are a lot of things we think are out of the reach of individuals or small groups of people, but the fact is someone developed many of these technologies in more primitive times without access to modern materials or the internet. We live in an age where morons can make armed drones or cruise missles, or, apparently, counterfeit helicopters.
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- razvvan 6y agomight be worth pointing out that this happened in Transnistria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria) a part of Moldova that has stronger political ties to Russia than to Moldova. It's complicated.
- FpUser 6y agoWhy is it "complicated"? And why does that matter at all? Oh and BTW most people were from Transnistria, the factory itself is on Moldova's mainland.
- credit_guy 6y agoNot the GP, but probably the "complicated" part is that the Moldovan prosecutors would not be able to shut down an illegal factory in Transnistria, which is de facto independent. The fact that the workers were from Transnistria probably provided them some type of immunity for a while. It's quite unlikely that the factory and the operation itself was really unknown. It's more likely that for political reasons, the authorities needed to turn a blind eye to it. What exactly changed now, who knows? It's complicated ...
- FpUser 6y agoThe factory was on on Moldova's territory. Why would "authorities need to turn a blind eye to it" is beyond my comprehension. What kind of "political reasons"? That is unless they were simply paid off and are regular crooks. Got any proof of that? It looks more like you just being "creative"
- credit_guy 6y agoIndeed, I don't have proof. As I said, I was not the original poster, I was just exercising a bit of critical thinking. Now, I started reading a bit into this. What I got so far is this: the authorities kept an eye on this operation for a few months. They arrested the main guys, who indeed reside on the other side of the river. These guys claim to be some sort of "inventors" who were simply experimenting with these helicopters and trying to overcome some technical obstacles. They say what they are doing on their property should not be anyone's business: they were indeed assembling helicopters, but did not sell yet anything. Given that, the authorities claim that the illegal things they did now include flying the helicopters for short periods of time without permission to fly, and bringing in the country various technical components without proper custom declarations (they had entire engines there, which they sourced from some engine manufacturers). If it comes to these types of arguments, the whole case does not appear so slam dunk. The Transnistria angle, I'm not sure if there was one. There could be a faint one, in the fact that the prosecutors did not want to arrest some resident of Transistria without a watertight case, so that's why they waited for months. Now some people claim they messed up anyway.
- throwawaysea 6y agoAm I missing something? Is this easy to do? Doesn't manufacturing a helicopter require very expensive and sophisticated equipment and supply chains? I'd think that would leave fingerprints all over. On the other hand, when I watch videos of boat building, it seems like it can be done by small shops with a few people. So maybe there is some equivalent tier of manufacturing for aircraft?
- bserge 6y agoApparently the design is very simple, and I guess reliable? It would be extremely easy to build a WW2 era propeller plane, and people built oceangoing sailboats by themselves. I found the story of this boat particularly interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cythera_(yacht) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cythera_(yacht)
- trhway 6y ago>Most of the people suspected of being involved in the production and assembly process, including the organisers and heads of the illegal operation, are residents of Moldova’s breakaway Transnistrian region. this and Donbass are regions where reality is significantly distorted from our typical everyday reality. In particular, laundering helicopters (and the components for them like engines) through there wouldn't look as anything exceptional. It is strange that it was located on Moldova controlled territory though - while right on on the border with yet still not in Transnistria proper. Update: According to the shop owner it were just full-scaled models which he's been using to develop his innovations, and he does have some patents for various equipment for helicopters - in Russian https://dumskaya.net/news/vladeletc-vertoletnogo-zavoda-pod-kishenevom-zay-119133/ https://dumskaya.net/news/vladeletc-vertoletnogo-zavoda-pod-...
- throw1234651234 6y agoAn important note is that Russia owns/controls Transnistria.
- FpUser 6y ago>this and Donbass are regions where reality is significantly distorted Reality either exists or not. It has no states. Hence can not be distorted.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y agoBlack hole. Gravity lens. Perception...
- vkou 6y agoWhat makes you say reality is distorted in either of those regions? One is a breakaway province that fought a civil war with its originating nation in 1992, with some amount of Russian involvement. In that time period, the Soviet Union was falling apart, and all sorts of regions were breaking off from their parent governments - a few of them through incredibly bloody conflicts between different ethnic groups. The other is the site of a bit of an active shooting war between Russia and Ukraine, because Ukraine was leaning too far to the West, and Russia didn't want to lose its warm water port. About the only thing that they have in common is that neither is recognized by the world (But neither is Taiwan), and that Russia was involved in various degrees...
- m0zg 6y agoMind bogglingly stupid to shut something like this down. Legalize it instead. Government should fill out the paperwork at their own expense, and compensate the owners of this sufficiently so that they could continue this manufacturing business in "above board" ways.
- smabie 6y agoYeah why not just fine them and make them pay taxes? Better for all parties involved.
- m0zg 6y agoExactly. The right response would have been "I'm not even mad, this is amazing!" It's not like Moldova is a powerhouse of industry or anything. Anyone who managed to pull this off deserves a shot at turning it into one.
- yxhuvud 6y agoProblem is that the helicopter model they bootlegged isn't certified to fly as it is too old and not following modern regulations.
- m0zg 6y agoSeems like the gap between no helicopter all and a working helicopter is smaller than between a working helicopter and one that's compliant with regulations. It's not like there's an abundance of helicopter manufacturers of any kind in Moldova.
- bserge 6y agoYeah, this is the strangest but also coolest news I read about Moldova in a long time haha If the government weren't such sad sacks of potatoes, they could maybe offer some help in setting up an actual legal production. But nah, just arrest them and be done with it. Who cares, right? Reminded me of the news about them seizing "hard drugs" from a "highly organized" group... Just some guys growing cannabis in their garden. They probably got 5-10 years, meanwhile there's bootleg "wine" (water+alcohol+sweetener, tastes absolutely horrible) in shops for nearly a decade and people drinking themselves to death.
- amoitnga 6y agoim originally from moldova and this is so weird seeing somthing like this on hn homepage ... so ridiculous. article doesnt mention the city, does it? would be interesring to know if thats transnistria, in which case its pretty much russian and moldova has mostly nothing to do with it.
- nneonneo 6y agoIt doesn’t mention the city but does say this: > Most of the people suspected of being involved in the production and assembly process, including the organisers and heads of the illegal operation, are residents of Moldova’s breakaway Transnistrian region.
- AndrewZM 6y agoIts in Criuleni.
- blhack 6y agoFor reference, it doesn't look like this helicopter has been in production for almost 40 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-26#Development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-26#Development
- paleogizmo 6y agoPer Wikipedia this uses reciprocating engines which I assume require less tolerance than turbines. Part of the mystery (probably) explained
- baybal2 6y agoActually it's the opposite. Turbines are much less sensitive to that, except for balancing, and bearings quality.
- keithyjohnson 6y agoHai davai!
- amoitnga 6y agohahahha... thank you for this one
- AndrewZM 6y agoWhat this entire story is missing is that the guy is an engineer and he was building full scale models (according to his story) to test his research, he already has some patents from 2015, which kinda make his story a bit more credible. Knowing how competent the police is in Moldova, it will not surprise me that they just fucked up... The other question is, who in their right mind would buy such helicopters(if you can call them helicopters :D )? I wouldnt even get close to one...
- netsharc 6y agoI wonder if they're trying to scam baddies (who else buys copters in the black market?), they could deliver these copters with some final assembly required, e.g. to install the blades of the main rotor, maybe leave 1 technician with the clients, or just hire a technician who isn't in on the scam and let him be the discoverer of the bad news... Alternatively, these are capable copter builders with parts which have "fallen off the back of trucks" in Russia (or even an inside group stealing parts from the official factory).
- mtnGoat 6y agoScamming bad actors out of lots of capital can be bad for ones health.
- agnokapathetic 6y agoSource for the models/patent? I can’t find a name
- redis_mlc 6y agoThe thread comments are amusing. The largest helicopter manufacturer in the world by volume is Robinson Helicopter, started by 1 dude. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Helicopter_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Helicopter_Company HN: never stop saying stupid shit about aviation!
- orbital-decay 6y agoIt's not that crazy if you consider that it was a part of the Soviet Union, where these helis were designed and produced at two different factories. Ka-26 is a fairly old and relatively simple helicopter with two radial engines, no complex turbomachinery. They probably did this with the old Soviet equipment and documentation, both either smuggled or maybe even bought legally. The experts from Buryatia or Bashkortostan who produced them back in the USSR might have also been involved in this. So my guess these are not "fake" helicopters but probably "real" Ka-26s, it was just an unlicensed production. Still impressive though.
- na85 6y agoThe real issue (IMHO) is highlighted in the article: >All the helicopters were produced without the necessary permits and documents of origin for the parts and equipment used. In aerospace it's common to speak of certificates of conformance, which is a legal attestation from the manufacturer that the part is of genuine origin and complies with the specification from the aircraft's type design. The manufacturer is periodically audited/assessed for their quality control practices and parts are routinely tested to ensure they are airworthy. The issue here, as per the above quote, is that they were probably using bootleg parts from random Chinese suppliers, which might be no big deal but might also have not been heat treated properly, for example, in order to save manufacturing cost. If parts aren't compliant with the spec you can have structural failures in flight which is of course no bueno. So yes, these are probably "real" Kamovs in the sense that they're probably built from real Kamov blueprints, but what many people outside the industry don't realize is that aerospace design and manufacturing encompasses much more than the blueprint. The whole program from the drawing board to the assembly line to the in-service maintenance work has to be a cohesive whole in order to produce an airworthy product.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y agoIn practice though, that’s only a real issue if the wrong people die in a crash as a result of non-compliant parts.
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- supernova87a 6y agoI suppose the major problem (aside from questionable parts, etc) is that in some factory processes, especially in less developed places, the documentation only captures so much of what has to be done to make something work right. It usually turns out there's some knowledge during assembly that is preserved by someone or something that's not in the documentation, that is insidiously hidden until you find out later it's gone wrong. And when someone tries to copy the process off of the pure documentation (or worse, just reverse engineering the thing with no documentation), that unwritten process is lost. And then, you're going to get someone down the line who wonders, "what's this unnecessary part for?" and removes it or ignores when it's missing, and suddenly your rotors start flying apart after 100 hours or something. At least when the knockoff Hasselblad (Kiev) cameras failed, it just led to a stuck film crank that could be reset, or when a Lada broke down it could be pushed. With a helicopter, not so forgiving...
- quallzone 6y agoMore info on Kiev: The old Salyut-C and Kiev-88 medium format camera system was not created or sold as a knockoff or "replica" of the Hasselblad system. The body is admittedly a Soviet-era clone of the original Hasselblad 1000F, but with its own interchangeable body parts and lenses. Also, the lenses were primarily made in a former Zeiss factory in Jena, DDR (East Germany). Some "CZJ" (Carl Zeiss Jena) have decent optical quality, while others are not. An old Shutterbug article jokingly stated that the amount of lens dust and quality control was dependent on the Vodka content of the workers that day. Over the years, I owned 1 Salyut-C and a couple of Kiev-88 bodies and lenses, and I can confirm that build quality was variable in my experience. Some US-based camera shops had a side business performing Kiev-88 CLA (cleaning, lubrication & adjustment). This was for an Officially produced product with relatively few moving parts. So I cannot imagine the build quality for these counterfeit helicopters!
- gumby 6y agoMany in the Bay Area may not realize that East Palo Alto (back when it was part of Menlo Park) was a hotbed of helicopter development and manufacture. 1940s/1950s
- c-smile 6y agoUSSR's machinery design principles at their best. You can build and/or repair helicopter in kolkhos's garage. Yet, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5IRykZsVBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5IRykZsVBw Kalashnikov "foreva"!
- hristov 6y agoThe Ka-26 is an old design that is long out of production in the official Russian factories. It turns out that while many more capable helicopters have been designed after it, the Ka-26 is ideal for one particular narrow job -- crop dusting. The features that make ideal for this are unlikely to come up in another helicopter -- it is very small and yet it has twin coaxial rotors. Apparently the coaxial rotors combined with small size make it good for crop dusting because they spread out the downdraft and thus ensure that the helicopter does not destroy the plants it is supposed to be dusting. As such it is unlikely to be replaced by a new helicopter. There are some new small helicopters being designed but none of them have twin rotors, because twin rotors are complex and it makes little sense to put them on a small cheap helicopter.Crop dusting itself is a relatively small market and it is unlikely to create sufficient demand for the design of a new helicopter. Then how did the Ka-26 get its twin rotors? Well, for one the Kamov design bureau seems to really like twin rotors. Also, there may have been some Soviet military requirements that make them desirable -- such as being able to operate on city streets, being able to land on a truck, etc. Furthermore, as these things go, crop dusting is relatively safe helicopter activity. There are no passengers, you have to do it in perfect weather anyways, even a slight wind will result in your pesticides being blown away, you do it at low altitude and over generally flat ground with few obstacles. So while there is a problem with ignoring all safety regulations for helicopters, this is probably not that dangerous. So, in general, this is a lot less crazy than it first appears. It seems like there was a small market demand for a niche application, but the demand was not sufficient to go through all the safety inspections or to use an existing Kamov factory. Yet the intended use is inherently much more safe than the usual helicopter mission so the clients were willing to take the risk.
- DavidPeiffer 6y agoA note about helicopter crop dusting that surprised me as an Iowa resident. Around here almost all crop dusting is done by plane. I've seen one helicopter in the last ~10 years. The helicopter had an accompanying tank truck on a gravel road. The helicopter would land on top, refuel or refill the spray, then continue operating! I was very surprised to see it operating like this. An airplane would have needed to fly 12 miles each way to the nearest airport. Quick look online says they commonly fly at ~180 mph, meaning ~8 minutes wasted round trip. I'm guessing the distance from the airport wasn't the major motivation behind the helicopter, but rather nearby power lines.
- ddmma 6y agoThey should call themselves a startup and improve that model full electric
- plextoria 6y agoI was born in the village next to the bootleg factory. Heard about the factory a couple years ago when they were looking to hire mechanics. I couldn't believe they decided to open it illegally and found the whole story hilarious. The story is still unfolding and the owner claims that the factory was in fact a research facility and no helicopters were sold. I don't believe that :) The facility is located in the commune of Răculești, district Criuleni. It's a couple of kilometers away, but not in the disputed territory of Transnistria as falsely claimed in another comment. The owner and the factory workers on the hand, are residents of Transnistria. Why had they decided to open the factory on the "legal" side of the border - I have no idea. Transnistria is notorious for illicit activities including drugs and guns smuggling and would have been the perfect location for a bootleg factory. Anyway, Moldovan Prosecutor's Office is known to take bribes and this "shut down" sounds like a deal gone wrong between prosecutor mafia and the factory owner.
- plextoria 6y agoExact location of the factory, for the curious: https://www.google.com/maps/place/R%C4%83cule%C5%9Fti,+Moldova/@47.2718001,29.0559949,440m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x40c95f38dc385767:0xcf7aa5974c63efb9!8m2!3d47.2713437!4d29.06763 https://www.google.com/maps/place/R%C4%83cule%C5%9Fti,+Moldo... There used to be ruins of an unfinished facility in that place, walked past it many times as a kid. Never imagined they would build helicopters in there.
- duemti 6y agoFrom my research, they didn't catch them in the act of selling, it's an err and abuse from authorities.
- costea123 6y agoI'll be honest, this is bad that it's illegal and ofc uncontrolled helicopter building is really dangerous. But damn as a Moldovian I feel so proud that we're actually building something xD
- bserge 6y agoThere's a lot of enterprising people trying to build stuff, sadly it's simply easier to do it in the other Moldova - and if you go there, why not go all the way to western Europe, more funding there :/ Solar panel/battery companies seem to be popular, they assemble a lot of things on the spot. Having access only to the internal market is a big limiting factor imo.
- zed88 6y agoDamn I would love to have one, I mean who wouldn't love a bootleg helicopter right? Here is an engine start video that I absolutely loved https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xKhc77VXk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xKhc77VXk
- AdrianB1 6y agoThe quick explanation for some of the questions I've seen on this story: 1. what is the purpose of building an aircraft that you cannot register? Cigarettes contraband, they fly low in mountain regions between Ukraine and Romania to smuggle cigarettes that are a lot cheaper in Ukraine because in EU taxes are up to 80-90% of the price. We had one of these helicopters crashed last year just doing this. 2. How do they know how to build it? It is not the latest high end technology and there are lots of people that used to work in aviation factories in the region; Ukraine, Romania, Serbia had aircraft factories with thousands of employees. Also the people in the trade of maintaining these helicopters (registered mechanics) have the knowledge and most of the tools needed to assembly it. It is a small, light helicopter, we had one built (legally) in our small hangar by 2 people in their free time. 3. Why don't they sell them legally? Because if you are in the business of selling helicopters to people doing contraband, you don't want to attract any attention, you want to operate under the radar. It is more profitable to sell these to smugglers than to the official market, otherwise the original manufacturing plant would still be selling these with better efficiency of scale. 4. How hard is to do it? In the Transnistria region, it's easy, it's almost lawless. In other places, it's fairly easy to set up such a shop in a lesser populated area if you have a small crew that you can trust. You can eventually have some semi-legit business or repairing agricultural equipment in case anyone sees you carrying stuff around and asks what is that: "tractor spare parts". Police in this area is corrupt, sometimes they are part of the operation providing cover and protecting from investigations, it's just a matter of money changing the right hands.
- mam2 6y agoHow in life do you decide to open a shop of fake helicopters ?