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> This requires a Wikipedia account and an email address It's borderline impossible nowadays to create an email address without a phone number or a pre-existin
by 77pt77 6y ago
> This requires a Wikipedia account and an email address
It's borderline impossible nowadays to create an email address without a phone number or a pre-existing email address.
Also almost impossible to do using Tor.
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- lucasmullens 6y agoAny email address? Surely there's still unpopular email services out there that don't require a phone number. There's even websites that provide instant temporary email addresses.
- shrimp_emoji 6y agoI think, for example, https://www.tutanota.com/ https://www.tutanota.com/
- slipheen 6y agoPerhaps the best way to do this right now may be renting a phone number online. There are services you can pay in btc, which will receive a verification code for you, using a real phone number, rather than a voip number. AFAIK they're often used by relatively unscrupulous people to bypass bans in games, etc, but could also be used here.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoDon't you just shift things down the road, now you need to buy BTC, in UK I think you need a bank account (to setup PayPal, say) or phone number (to buy a disposable payment card).
- slipheen 6y agoI don't know your particular situation, but there are places you can buy bitcoin in cash. At least in the US, this doesn't need a bank account or phone number. Googling suggests you could try https://coinatmradar.com/ https://coinatmradar.com/
- alasdair_ 6y agoFind someone with bitcoin and have them give you some for cash?
- jandrese 6y agoThe threat model of Blizzards anti-gold farming department vs. your national government's secret police isn't the same.
- slipheen 6y agoSure? But most Tor users aren't trying to avoid their national secret police.
- jandrese 6y agoYeah, but that's the design goal for Tor. The designers don't need to cater to the needs of people buying drugs or scamming old people.
- Fnoord 6y agoIts a purpose one could use Tor for. You can use Tor to circumvent firewalls or NAT (e.g. SSH tunneling, or avoiding proxies and censorship). You can use Tor to ensure Facebook or Wikipedia does not have your IP address (you might not trust the admins). You can use Tor to provide others the above mentioned benefits. And in an authoritarian country such as China, trying to hide from the authorities (as you put it "national secret police") makes sense quite quickly as so much is forbidden. That being said, Tor was not designed to make you hide from the "national secret police"; at least not specifically (and which nation anyway?). IIRC it started out as a project by the US military.
- Forbo 6y agoThe Venn diagram of "national secret police" and the foreign intelligence agencies the Navy was trying to avoid probably has quite a bit of overlap in many areas of the world. So, yeah, it was in fact originally designed for just that.
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- mkup 6y agoLast time I tried to create e-mail address via Tor, ProtonMail worked flawlessly. No phone number required. They even have .onion domain available exclusively via Tor. But other e-mail providers like GMail and Hotmail won't like Tor and ask user to provide phone number, you are partially right. So solution is simply not to use these e-mail providers.
- Funes- 6y ago>Last time I tried to create e-mail address via Tor, ProtonMail worked flawlessly. No phone number required. It must've been some time ago, then, because they now require an SMS (your phone number), a donation, or another e-mail account.
- TechBro8615 6y agoI don’t think that’s true for every exit node. Keep cycling your IP and you may find one where it’s not required.
- jandrese 6y agoEven if you get the account created it will tend to self-lock after a short time and ask for SMS verification. Email services that don't SMS verify on VPN or TOR endpoints usually find themselves on anti-spam blacklists sooner rather than later. Spammers are constantly on the lookout for email services that don't have trashed reputations to get around Gmail and other provider's filters.
- metrokoi 6y agoProtonMail does not allow new account creation over VPN or Tor without donation or SMS. I checked just now. The point of creating an account with Tor is that it's completely untraceable. Yandex does, however.
- 77pt77 6y ago> Yandex does, however Nope. Also fails. I git curious a few weeks ago and tried most services mentioned here. All failed, all asked for either SMS or another email.
- young_unixer 6y agoI always use cock.li for temporary emails and it never asks for anything. As long as you don't feel offended by the domain names, you can use it too.
- dustingetz 6y agoYou can host a mailserver, it comes with linux
- jandrese 6y agoYou'll need a domain, and getting one anonymously is another issue roughly on par with getting an anonymous email account. In fact the domain provider is pretty much always going to ask you for an email account and a form of payment. The whole point of this exercise is to avoid having your nation's secret police kidnap and kill you because you posted the list of details about how the leaders are stealing from the people and killing dissidents.
- dustingetz 6y agoSubdomain works, get on IRC and ask someone for one
- c22 6y agoYou actually don't need a domain, but you will at least have to obtain an ip address.
- dependenttypes 6y agodkim needs dns getting a host will be more difficult though
- dependenttypes 6y agoa lot of services only accept emails from "reputable" servers (gmail, yahoo, etc)
- 77pt77 6y agoThat's another fight. Try sending email from your own box and not be blocked by the big ones (gmail, apple, yahoo, outlook, etc). It's borderline impossible even if you just send a couple of emails a week (no spam) and set up everything (DKIM, SPF, DMARK)