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If you are using Tor for security or privacy reasons, and you would like to edit Wikipedia while using Tor, you can request permission to do so: https://en.wik
by commoner 6y ago
If you are using Tor for security or privacy reasons, and you would like to edit Wikipedia while using Tor, you can request permission to do so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption
This requires a Wikipedia account and an email address (which can be used exclusively for Wikipedia). Signing up for a Wikipedia account involves providing a username and a password, but no personal information is needed.
The "Advice to users using Tor" page has more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_to_users_using_Tor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_to_users_usin...
- 77pt77 6y ago> This requires a Wikipedia account and an email address It's borderline impossible nowadays to create an email address without a phone number or a pre-existing email address. Also almost impossible to do using Tor.
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- lucasmullens 6y agoAny email address? Surely there's still unpopular email services out there that don't require a phone number. There's even websites that provide instant temporary email addresses.
- shrimp_emoji 6y agoI think, for example, https://www.tutanota.com/ https://www.tutanota.com/
- slipheen 6y agoPerhaps the best way to do this right now may be renting a phone number online. There are services you can pay in btc, which will receive a verification code for you, using a real phone number, rather than a voip number. AFAIK they're often used by relatively unscrupulous people to bypass bans in games, etc, but could also be used here.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoDon't you just shift things down the road, now you need to buy BTC, in UK I think you need a bank account (to setup PayPal, say) or phone number (to buy a disposable payment card).
- slipheen 6y agoI don't know your particular situation, but there are places you can buy bitcoin in cash. At least in the US, this doesn't need a bank account or phone number. Googling suggests you could try https://coinatmradar.com/ https://coinatmradar.com/
- alasdair_ 6y agoFind someone with bitcoin and have them give you some for cash?
- jandrese 6y agoThe threat model of Blizzards anti-gold farming department vs. your national government's secret police isn't the same.
- slipheen 6y agoSure? But most Tor users aren't trying to avoid their national secret police.
- jandrese 6y agoYeah, but that's the design goal for Tor. The designers don't need to cater to the needs of people buying drugs or scamming old people.
- Fnoord 6y agoIts a purpose one could use Tor for. You can use Tor to circumvent firewalls or NAT (e.g. SSH tunneling, or avoiding proxies and censorship). You can use Tor to ensure Facebook or Wikipedia does not have your IP address (you might not trust the admins). You can use Tor to provide others the above mentioned benefits. And in an authoritarian country such as China, trying to hide from the authorities (as you put it "national secret police") makes sense quite quickly as so much is forbidden. That being said, Tor was not designed to make you hide from the "national secret police"; at least not specifically (and which nation anyway?). IIRC it started out as a project by the US military.
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- mkup 6y agoLast time I tried to create e-mail address via Tor, ProtonMail worked flawlessly. No phone number required. They even have .onion domain available exclusively via Tor. But other e-mail providers like GMail and Hotmail won't like Tor and ask user to provide phone number, you are partially right. So solution is simply not to use these e-mail providers.
- Funes- 6y ago>Last time I tried to create e-mail address via Tor, ProtonMail worked flawlessly. No phone number required. It must've been some time ago, then, because they now require an SMS (your phone number), a donation, or another e-mail account.
- TechBro8615 6y agoI don’t think that’s true for every exit node. Keep cycling your IP and you may find one where it’s not required.
- jandrese 6y agoEven if you get the account created it will tend to self-lock after a short time and ask for SMS verification. Email services that don't SMS verify on VPN or TOR endpoints usually find themselves on anti-spam blacklists sooner rather than later. Spammers are constantly on the lookout for email services that don't have trashed reputations to get around Gmail and other provider's filters.
- metrokoi 6y agoProtonMail does not allow new account creation over VPN or Tor without donation or SMS. I checked just now. The point of creating an account with Tor is that it's completely untraceable. Yandex does, however.
- 77pt77 6y ago> Yandex does, however Nope. Also fails. I git curious a few weeks ago and tried most services mentioned here. All failed, all asked for either SMS or another email.
- young_unixer 6y agoI always use cock.li for temporary emails and it never asks for anything. As long as you don't feel offended by the domain names, you can use it too.
- dustingetz 6y agoYou can host a mailserver, it comes with linux
- jandrese 6y agoYou'll need a domain, and getting one anonymously is another issue roughly on par with getting an anonymous email account. In fact the domain provider is pretty much always going to ask you for an email account and a form of payment. The whole point of this exercise is to avoid having your nation's secret police kidnap and kill you because you posted the list of details about how the leaders are stealing from the people and killing dissidents.
- dustingetz 6y agoSubdomain works, get on IRC and ask someone for one
- c22 6y agoYou actually don't need a domain, but you will at least have to obtain an ip address.
- dependenttypes 6y agodkim needs dns getting a host will be more difficult though
- dependenttypes 6y agoa lot of services only accept emails from "reputable" servers (gmail, yahoo, etc)
- 77pt77 6y agoThat's another fight. Try sending email from your own box and not be blocked by the big ones (gmail, apple, yahoo, outlook, etc). It's borderline impossible even if you just send a couple of emails a week (no spam) and set up everything (DKIM, SPF, DMARK)
- em-bee 6y agobut once i have an account, why would i still need tor? what protection does tor give to someone logged in to wikipedia? i don't like to get an account because that would leave a public trail of all my edits, and given the eclectic selection of topics i am interested, in this would allow anyone to deanonymize me. whereas if my edits get spread over multiple ip addresses you may tie a particular edit to an ip of mine, but you won't be able to build a profile of my person from all my edits. hackernews has the same problem, but on hn the topic selection is more limited, and not all topics i am interested in are being discussed here. also it is a lot more difficult to categorize hn comments compared to wikipedia edits.
- Hello71 6y agoIf you believe you require privacy in your contributions, you can create multiple accounts pursuant to the policy on sockpuppetry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Legitimate_uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Legiti.... In these cases, you "must not use alternative accounts to mislead, deceive, disrupt, or undermine consensus". It is also recommended to "notify a checkuser or members of the arbitration committee if they believe editing will attract scrutiny".
- FabHK 6y agoI have requested permission, and it was denied. You have to "demonstrate the need" and "be trusted not to abuse". > Editors who may reasonably request an exemption include users who show they can contribute to the encyclopedia, and existing users with a history of valid non-disruptive contribution. So, "a Wikipedia account and an email address", as you write, is not enough. EDIT to add: As acknowledged by Wikipedia in your second link: > IP block exemptions for this purpose should be requested by following these instructions. However, it may be difficult to establish good standing and remain completely anonymous, as the former requires editing without using Tor.
- reagle 6y agoI’m a longtime contributor and asked to use my VPN and was similarly denied. I’d like to have my VPN on most of the time, but Wikipedia won’t let me.