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What are you implying?

downerending 6y ago
I read his comment as "inherent racial disparities in ability". For basketball, I doubt you'll find many that disagree. For STEM, or computer programming and math at least, it's far harder to know. Certainly there are very few black people in tech/math, at least at the higher levels. Perhaps part of the problem is that empty virtue signaling (like banning the terms "master" and "slave") is easy, but actually doing the work that would really matter is hard. I spent a couple hours helping a black kid polish up for his Google interview (he made it). That's something, but it will really take serious tutoring and a society wide scale to bridge the gap. And other socioeconomic factors might still prove overwhelming. And for gods' sake, the whole "girls that code" thing needs to die right now. Can you imagine how a young black man would be affected by that?
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago
  I'm implying no such thing. There's no gene for basketball, just as there's no gene for engineering. Yet, certain populations excel at one or the other. Aptitude arises out of cultural and socioeconomic factors. Clearly, science and engineering are not strong factors in some populations' culture and lifestyle. Whereas, it is a lifestyle from an early age for hundreds of millions of whites and Asians, mostly boys. There could be a genetic component but such has not been proven.
  - downerending 6y ago
    I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. There is a gene for basketball--it's called being tall and fairly muscular. There's a reason why there are very few great Ashkenazi basketball players, and it's not racism or culture.
    - chii 6y ago
      > There is a gene for basketball--it's called being tall and fairly muscular so then by that logic, you can argue why there are so few whites in basketball must be that they aren't as tall and muscular.
      - downerending 6y ago
        I think most basketball fans would agree with that argument.
        chii 6y ago
        And yet when there's little or no representation of one race in one area of human endeavour, it's OK and accepted. But in another endeavour, it's frowned upon and spell racism.
        the_omegist 6y ago
        Even more visible than basketball and totally genetically admitted : 100m race. Even the most gene-allergic person will have trouble denying perhaps predisposition for speed can be unequally distributed among different races. But genes would magically stop having any meaningful effect above the waist...
        DanBC 6y ago
        You may be interested in reading Superior: The Return of Race Science which is a comprehensive debunking of your racist ideology. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superior-Return-Science-Angela-Saini/dp/0008341001 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superior-Return-Science-Angela-Sain...
        the_omegist 6y ago
        It's always nice when people react rationally... I think you mean my science-based and rational ideology. Either you explain where my logic is failing or you have nothing to teach me.

I read his comment as "inherent racial disparities in ability". For basketball, I doubt you'll find many that disagree. For STEM, or computer programming and math at least, it's far harder to know. Certainly there are very few black people in tech/math, at least at the higher levels. Perhaps part of the problem is that empty virtue signaling (like banning the terms "master" and "slave") is easy, but actually doing the work that would really matter is hard. I spent a couple hours helping a black kid polish up for his Google interview (he made it). That's something, but it will really take serious tutoring and a society wide scale to bridge the gap. And other socioeconomic factors might still prove overwhelming. And for gods' sake, the whole "girls that code" thing needs to die right now. Can you imagine how a young black man would be affected by that?

blisterpeanuts 6y ago
I'm implying no such thing. There's no gene for basketball, just as there's no gene for engineering. Yet, certain populations excel at one or the other. Aptitude arises out of cultural and socioeconomic factors. Clearly, science and engineering are not strong factors in some populations' culture and lifestyle. Whereas, it is a lifestyle from an early age for hundreds of millions of whites and Asians, mostly boys. There could be a genetic component but such has not been proven.
- downerending 6y ago
  I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. There is a gene for basketball--it's called being tall and fairly muscular. There's a reason why there are very few great Ashkenazi basketball players, and it's not racism or culture.
  - chii 6y ago
    > There is a gene for basketball--it's called being tall and fairly muscular so then by that logic, you can argue why there are so few whites in basketball must be that they aren't as tall and muscular.
    - downerending 6y ago
      I think most basketball fans would agree with that argument.
      - chii 6y ago
        And yet when there's little or no representation of one race in one area of human endeavour, it's OK and accepted. But in another endeavour, it's frowned upon and spell racism.
        the_omegist 6y ago
        Even more visible than basketball and totally genetically admitted : 100m race. Even the most gene-allergic person will have trouble denying perhaps predisposition for speed can be unequally distributed among different races. But genes would magically stop having any meaningful effect above the waist...
        DanBC 6y ago
        You may be interested in reading Superior: The Return of Race Science which is a comprehensive debunking of your racist ideology. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superior-Return-Science-Angela-Saini/dp/0008341001 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superior-Return-Science-Angela-Sain...
        the_omegist 6y ago
        It's always nice when people react rationally... I think you mean my science-based and rational ideology. Either you explain where my logic is failing or you have nothing to teach me.