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It's like saying a car is fast. Sure, the car is fast. Is it also reliable, efficient, aesthetically pleasing, comfortable, or affordable? How does it handle? H

by api 6y ago

It's like saying a car is fast. Sure, the car is fast. Is it also reliable, efficient, aesthetically pleasing, comfortable, or affordable? How does it handle? How does it do off-road? Can it fly? Can it operate underwater? Real world fitness landscapes are complex and multidimensional. My comment was a little snarky because while I like this site quite a bit for many reasons I do get a little fatigued by the prevalence of the IQ cult. The notion that there is a single metric on which brains can be sorted is sort of a sacred dogma around here, and one which to me is obviously quite wrong. All it takes is a casual glance at intelligence as it actually manifests in the only real world example of an intelligent system we have: biology. It's clearly a multidimensional quality that can be optimized for a large range of things just like anything else. If intelligence is multidimensional in all other living things, by what rationale would we conclude that human intelligence is one-dimensional? ... or ... If virtually every engineered or evolved capability is subject to multi-dimensional optimization, then why not also intelligence?

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
Absolutely true, but I'm not sure that's really a point of confusion. Almost everyone would agree that smart people aren't automatically good at athletics, or poetry, or woodworking. If you've seen people say that kind of thing I agree they're being silly.
luckylion 6y ago
Yet we have a bunch of general attributes we expect when we say "car". Maybe "she's smart" is rather like "she has a car". You don't know whether it's a Porsche or a Truck, gas or electric, but you'll generally rely on her being able to cover larger distances than on foot, and at higher speeds, while also hauling some reasonable amount of luggage.
lolbrels 6y ago
I agree with this sentiment - single-dimensional intelligence is usually reactive, instinctual, applies to a very specific event or context. I believe human-level/multi-dimensional intelligence is the ability to extrapolate/abstract ideas from many different single-dimensional understandings. I think regardless of whether or not AI is or ever will be multi-dimensional, that will depend on its ability to consider and make conclusions from many different single-dimensions - libraries if you will.

by api 6y ago

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago

Absolutely true, but I'm not sure that's really a point of confusion. Almost everyone would agree that smart people aren't automatically good at athletics, or poetry, or woodworking. If you've seen people say that kind of thing I agree they're being silly.

luckylion 6y ago

Yet we have a bunch of general attributes we expect when we say "car". Maybe "she's smart" is rather like "she has a car". You don't know whether it's a Porsche or a Truck, gas or electric, but you'll generally rely on her being able to cover larger distances than on foot, and at higher speeds, while also hauling some reasonable amount of luggage.

lolbrels 6y ago

I agree with this sentiment - single-dimensional intelligence is usually reactive, instinctual, applies to a very specific event or context. I believe human-level/multi-dimensional intelligence is the ability to extrapolate/abstract ideas from many different single-dimensional understandings. I think regardless of whether or not AI is or ever will be multi-dimensional, that will depend on its ability to consider and make conclusions from many different single-dimensions - libraries if you will.