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This country disgusts me more and more everyday. It's unfathomable. All of us lucky tech workers owe our help to whats going on right now. Do NOT be silent. Get

by mjayhn 6y ago

This country disgusts me more and more everyday. It's unfathomable. All of us lucky tech workers owe our help to whats going on right now. Do NOT be silent. Get out there tonight and tomorrow. CIS, white, whatever, allies need to be on the streets this weekend, you're valued. This is a tipping point but we need allies, especially people who know tech. There are grass roots protest organizations popping up everywhere that need serious pro bono tech help. If you work on distributed systems or production networks this stuff is stupid simple to you. Split your work between fast & impermeable systems to our democracy.

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0x8BADF00D 6y ago
The United States never was, nor will ever be, a democracy. It is a republic.
- ahelwer 6y ago
  This distinction means literally nothing and its utterance has never once contributed positively to a discussion.
  - 0x8BADF00D 6y ago
    In your mind, sure. Anything is possible.
- Synaesthesia 6y ago
  It’s as much a democracy as we want it to be. We have to force leaders to listen to the people sometimes.
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strictnein 6y ago
Know any of the scores of local businesses on this list? Because I have been to tons of them. https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests/569930671/ https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildi... But screw them, right? This isn't "protesting" anything. This isn't about the savage murder of a man. It's a riot and they're destroying scores of local businesses, including minority owned ones. But I enjoy your really hot take on the situation and I'm sure you'll continue to be a keyboard revolutionary going forward.
- vixen99 6y ago
  One wonders in vain how a reasonable comment like this is downvoted.
- miohtama 6y ago
  "Looting is a howl of rage that surfaces when people feel trapped by injustice and betrayed by institutions. It’s not what happens when the goal isn’t justice, it’s what happens when the goal of justice is thwarted by a society of corrupted ideals and decayed morals."
  - pinkfoot 6y ago
    … or when the shops have running shoes, TVs, or booze. How many book stores or fresh produce shops get cleaned out ? Don't be naïve. (Which is orthogonal to the legitimacy of the protest itself).
    - nerdponx 6y ago
      I'm not sure why you're being downvoted, because both things can be true. There is a tendency to glamorize and retroactively justify every action connected with something you support, as both positive and intentional. It is possible, for example, to support burning the police precinct, but be opposed to looting the grocery store.
    - diggan 6y ago
      The point is not what stores that gets looted. It's that stores are being looted at all. This only happens when people feel they are not being heard and when there is no other action than rioting and creating chaos. Looting happens because of the "protection" of the chaos, but you have to look further than just seeing people stealing stuff from stores. The issue is so much larger and the system is actively forcing the people to create chaos, because there are no other way to get the leaders to listen to them. People have been trying to fix this problem for decades now. Still the police is murdering US citizens. Of course people are gonna get mad as hell when that still happens.
rukittenme 6y ago
Stop calling me an "ally". I'm a human being. I belong to the same group you do. You can appeal to me the same way you appeal to everyone else. Thanks.
- artfulhippo 6y ago
  If you’re not an ally, you’re not an ally.
  - cyr 6y ago
    Reminds me of the Bush quote "you're either with us, or against us". Polarization generally doesn't lead to good results for a society.
perfmode 6y ago
> There are grass roots protest organizations popping up everywhere that need serious pro bono tech help. If you work on distributed systems or production networks this stuff is stupid simple to you. how can one tap into the stream of information and find groups which need help? where can one learn more?

by mjayhn 6y ago

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0x8BADF00D 6y ago

The United States never was, nor will ever be, a democracy. It is a republic.

ahelwer 6y ago
This distinction means literally nothing and its utterance has never once contributed positively to a discussion.
- 0x8BADF00D 6y ago
  In your mind, sure. Anything is possible.
Synaesthesia 6y ago
It’s as much a democracy as we want it to be. We have to force leaders to listen to the people sometimes.

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strictnein 6y ago

Know any of the scores of local businesses on this list? Because I have been to tons of them. https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests/569930671/ https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildi... But screw them, right? This isn't "protesting" anything. This isn't about the savage murder of a man. It's a riot and they're destroying scores of local businesses, including minority owned ones. But I enjoy your really hot take on the situation and I'm sure you'll continue to be a keyboard revolutionary going forward.

vixen99 6y ago
One wonders in vain how a reasonable comment like this is downvoted.
miohtama 6y ago
"Looting is a howl of rage that surfaces when people feel trapped by injustice and betrayed by institutions. It’s not what happens when the goal isn’t justice, it’s what happens when the goal of justice is thwarted by a society of corrupted ideals and decayed morals."
- pinkfoot 6y ago
  … or when the shops have running shoes, TVs, or booze. How many book stores or fresh produce shops get cleaned out ? Don't be naïve. (Which is orthogonal to the legitimacy of the protest itself).
  - nerdponx 6y ago
    I'm not sure why you're being downvoted, because both things can be true. There is a tendency to glamorize and retroactively justify every action connected with something you support, as both positive and intentional. It is possible, for example, to support burning the police precinct, but be opposed to looting the grocery store.
  - diggan 6y ago
    The point is not what stores that gets looted. It's that stores are being looted at all. This only happens when people feel they are not being heard and when there is no other action than rioting and creating chaos. Looting happens because of the "protection" of the chaos, but you have to look further than just seeing people stealing stuff from stores. The issue is so much larger and the system is actively forcing the people to create chaos, because there are no other way to get the leaders to listen to them. People have been trying to fix this problem for decades now. Still the police is murdering US citizens. Of course people are gonna get mad as hell when that still happens.

rukittenme 6y ago

Stop calling me an "ally". I'm a human being. I belong to the same group you do. You can appeal to me the same way you appeal to everyone else. Thanks.

artfulhippo 6y ago
If you’re not an ally, you’re not an ally.
- cyr 6y ago
  Reminds me of the Bush quote "you're either with us, or against us". Polarization generally doesn't lead to good results for a society.

perfmode 6y ago

> There are grass roots protest organizations popping up everywhere that need serious pro bono tech help. If you work on distributed systems or production networks this stuff is stupid simple to you. how can one tap into the stream of information and find groups which need help? where can one learn more?