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The maintenance is much more expensive and time consuming though. Most solar panels are install and forget for their lifetime measured in decades, with some sma

by xyzzyz 7y ago

The maintenance is much more expensive and time consuming though. Most solar panels are install and forget for their lifetime measured in decades, with some small failure rate in the meantime. Plants however typically require maintenance multiple times a year and most have usable lifetime measured in months, not decades.

quixoticelixer- 7y ago
There are more types of plants than just corn. Trees are much easier and cheaper to establish than solar for example.
- marcosdumay 7y ago
  Trees are the lowest of that low range that start at 0.1% efficiency. And if you collect only the wood, it's a couple of magnitude lower than it.
- Someone 7y ago
  But delivering the energy from those trees to consumers is harder and more expensive than for solar cells. Also, if your desired output is electrical power, you’ll lose more energy converting your trees to electricity. On the plus side for trees, storing the energy they stored is cheap, and can be done for centuries. The net effect is that PV cells are more economically viable than using photosynthesis to catch solar energy (at least for now; there’s work being done on improving photosynthesis; I don’t see that beating PV soon, though, certainly not because PV cells keep improving fairly rapidly)
  - quixoticelixer- 7y ago
    Trees are often turned into heat and energy. Obviously they have very different requirements from PV cells and overall probably aren't as good they are certainly viable in some places (e.g Italy).
- rdtsc 7y ago
  Somehow it just doesn’t feel right to burn trees to produce clean or green energy. It might work on a small scale but not sure about doing it on an industrial scale.
  - generatorguy 7y ago
    It might be renewable but it still makes air pollution. On certain nights when everyone in the neighborhood decides to have a fire the air quality is terrible - almost as bad as during summer forest fire season.

by xyzzyz 7y ago

quixoticelixer- 7y ago

There are more types of plants than just corn. Trees are much easier and cheaper to establish than solar for example.

marcosdumay 7y ago
Trees are the lowest of that low range that start at 0.1% efficiency. And if you collect only the wood, it's a couple of magnitude lower than it.
Someone 7y ago
But delivering the energy from those trees to consumers is harder and more expensive than for solar cells. Also, if your desired output is electrical power, you’ll lose more energy converting your trees to electricity. On the plus side for trees, storing the energy they stored is cheap, and can be done for centuries. The net effect is that PV cells are more economically viable than using photosynthesis to catch solar energy (at least for now; there’s work being done on improving photosynthesis; I don’t see that beating PV soon, though, certainly not because PV cells keep improving fairly rapidly)
- quixoticelixer- 7y ago
  Trees are often turned into heat and energy. Obviously they have very different requirements from PV cells and overall probably aren't as good they are certainly viable in some places (e.g Italy).
rdtsc 7y ago
Somehow it just doesn’t feel right to burn trees to produce clean or green energy. It might work on a small scale but not sure about doing it on an industrial scale.
- generatorguy 7y ago
  It might be renewable but it still makes air pollution. On certain nights when everyone in the neighborhood decides to have a fire the air quality is terrible - almost as bad as during summer forest fire season.