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I think Russia is already setting that example, really no need for two. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/covid-19-russia-spike-cases-1.5533647 https://www.cbc.ca/

I think Russia is already setting that example, really no need for two. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/covid-19-russia-spike-cases-1.5533647 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/covid-19-russia-spike-cases-1....

vtail 7y ago
Moscow and most of the other places in Russia are on a complete lockdown for more than a week now - much stricter that eg. NY or California. I’m not sure what do you mean by your comment.
- JamisonM 7y ago
  I think if you read the article I linked to you can see what I mean. They were forbidding medical staff from doing tests and treatments! ... In an interview with CBC News on Monday, Dr. Rimma Kamalova, who heads the hospital's rheumatology department and is quarantined in the facility, said when the outbreak started, regional health authorities refused to test patients for coronavirus. "According to our policies ... we could not do testing on coronavirus," she said. "We had orders, at that time, not to give this diagnosis and take the relevant [mitigation] measures." ...
2019-nCoV 7y ago
Russia is honestly handling the crisis better than most of the western world. They've done >1.6M tests with a positivity rate of 1.7%.
- khuey 7y ago
  The number of cases China is reporting in travelers arriving from Russia strongly suggests that Russia is significantly underreporting the scope of its outbreak.
- seppin 7y ago
  That positive rate is far too low. If you get < 15% anywhere with a proven widespread outbreak you aren't doing enough testing.
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    That doesn't make sense to me. If you have a proven widespread outbreak and test everyone in your country, the number's still going to be below 15%.
    - seppin 7y ago
      15% seems to be an average number for an area with known community spread. It was in Korea, it was in Germany. If you are getting less than that, you aren't testing enough people. ALso if your number is far higher you might be only testing dire cases.
      - 2019-nCoV 7y ago
        You have it backwards. If your positivity rate continues to plummet as testing ramps up it points to the inverse. See other nations with wide spread testing and low positivity rates, namely Australia, NZ, Taiwan, UAE.
- jryle70 7y ago
  Moscow's metro has been a mess the last few days as big crowd waiting for permission checking: https://varlamov.ru/3860702.html https://varlamov.ru/3860702.html
  - JamisonM 7y ago
    This is exactly why I don't understand where people are getting the idea Russia is doing a good job of managing this! That looks like a lot of things, but it sure as heck doesn't look like a lockdown, certainly doesn't look like one that is going to be anywhere near as effective as the lockdowns in other jurisdictions. Crowding like that is absurd. Add to that the fact that they share a large border with China and were pretending to have no cases for at least a solid month or so. As the article I linked to stated, they have even given up on the propaganda effort at this point. Even the authorities in Russia whose specialty is self-deception know which way this is headed now!

vtail 7y ago

Moscow and most of the other places in Russia are on a complete lockdown for more than a week now - much stricter that eg. NY or California. I’m not sure what do you mean by your comment.

JamisonM 7y ago
I think if you read the article I linked to you can see what I mean. They were forbidding medical staff from doing tests and treatments! ... In an interview with CBC News on Monday, Dr. Rimma Kamalova, who heads the hospital's rheumatology department and is quarantined in the facility, said when the outbreak started, regional health authorities refused to test patients for coronavirus. "According to our policies ... we could not do testing on coronavirus," she said. "We had orders, at that time, not to give this diagnosis and take the relevant [mitigation] measures." ...

2019-nCoV 7y ago

Russia is honestly handling the crisis better than most of the western world. They've done >1.6M tests with a positivity rate of 1.7%.

khuey 7y ago
The number of cases China is reporting in travelers arriving from Russia strongly suggests that Russia is significantly underreporting the scope of its outbreak.
seppin 7y ago
That positive rate is far too low. If you get < 15% anywhere with a proven widespread outbreak you aren't doing enough testing.
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  That doesn't make sense to me. If you have a proven widespread outbreak and test everyone in your country, the number's still going to be below 15%.
  - seppin 7y ago
    15% seems to be an average number for an area with known community spread. It was in Korea, it was in Germany. If you are getting less than that, you aren't testing enough people. ALso if your number is far higher you might be only testing dire cases.
    - 2019-nCoV 7y ago
      You have it backwards. If your positivity rate continues to plummet as testing ramps up it points to the inverse. See other nations with wide spread testing and low positivity rates, namely Australia, NZ, Taiwan, UAE.
jryle70 7y ago
Moscow's metro has been a mess the last few days as big crowd waiting for permission checking: https://varlamov.ru/3860702.html https://varlamov.ru/3860702.html
- JamisonM 7y ago
  This is exactly why I don't understand where people are getting the idea Russia is doing a good job of managing this! That looks like a lot of things, but it sure as heck doesn't look like a lockdown, certainly doesn't look like one that is going to be anywhere near as effective as the lockdowns in other jurisdictions. Crowding like that is absurd. Add to that the fact that they share a large border with China and were pretending to have no cases for at least a solid month or so. As the article I linked to stated, they have even given up on the propaganda effort at this point. Even the authorities in Russia whose specialty is self-deception know which way this is headed now!