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Hi Nat, with Microsoft now owning Github, I'm really curious to know what the future holds for both Azure DevOps and Github? I'm a user of both - Github for OS

Hi Nat, with Microsoft now owning Github, I'm really curious to know what the future holds for both Azure DevOps and Github? I'm a user of both - Github for OSS, and Azure DevOps for private work. IMO, these areas are where they are best suited - pipelines in particular are really powerful in Azure DevOps, and user/permission management, AAD integration and integration with build agents are all excellent. I really like Azure DevOps, but all this has me worried about it's future - do you know if it's going to continue to exist and be developed in tandem with Github?

lukevp 7y ago
Same question here. We use the hosted version of Azure DevOps for work, but I use github for open source contributions. They both have their place, and DevOps feels more suited to enterprise use than GitHub right now.
diminish 7y ago
Do you plan to make github enterprise available for free on their own premises for teams?
- sathyabhat 7y ago
  This has been possible since long, what am I missing?
  - res0nat0r 7y ago
    I'm assuming he means on-prem GHE, for free, which I would doubt since that would eat away their revenue.
- tracker1 7y ago
  If you REALLY need to self-host, try Gitlab.
annallanza 7y ago
jhgfc
natfriedman 7y ago
Both products have a bright future and millions of users, and so we're continuing to invest in both for the foreseeable future. We're also finding ways to improve integration between them, so people can use them together if they want to. GitHub Actions reuses a bunch of code from Pipelines under the hood, for example.
- pknopf 7y ago
  I get that you guys want to say that publicly, but let's be real. No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. One product will eventually starve. I guess it is up to us to guess. Anyone? I see GitHub being the unmovable giant here. Microsoft is publicly developing on it, as opposed to Azure Dev Ops. It has a very large mind-share. More developers are willing to use it without having the Microsoft stigma that some nix people feel.
  - spenczar5 7y ago
    > No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. I don't mean to be rude, but have you worked at a very large company like Microsoft or Amazon or Google? Redundant products are par for the course because of the byzantine internal politics and funding structures of big companies.
    - m0xte 7y ago
      Big companies like Microsoft and Google like to burn products with little notice too.
      - koheripbal 7y ago
        ...and small companies go under or radically morph their products. There's this irrational demand vocal on social media that large corporations keep their products forever.
        sitkack 7y ago
flyingswift 7y ago
As a former member of Azure DevOps, I've heard from my colleagues that the Work Items and Agile features are totally in maintenance mode

lukevp 7y ago

Same question here. We use the hosted version of Azure DevOps for work, but I use github for open source contributions. They both have their place, and DevOps feels more suited to enterprise use than GitHub right now.

diminish 7y ago

Do you plan to make github enterprise available for free on their own premises for teams?

sathyabhat 7y ago
This has been possible since long, what am I missing?
- res0nat0r 7y ago
  I'm assuming he means on-prem GHE, for free, which I would doubt since that would eat away their revenue.
tracker1 7y ago
If you REALLY need to self-host, try Gitlab.

annallanza 7y ago

jhgfc

natfriedman 7y ago

Both products have a bright future and millions of users, and so we're continuing to invest in both for the foreseeable future. We're also finding ways to improve integration between them, so people can use them together if they want to. GitHub Actions reuses a bunch of code from Pipelines under the hood, for example.

pknopf 7y ago
I get that you guys want to say that publicly, but let's be real. No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. One product will eventually starve. I guess it is up to us to guess. Anyone? I see GitHub being the unmovable giant here. Microsoft is publicly developing on it, as opposed to Azure Dev Ops. It has a very large mind-share. More developers are willing to use it without having the Microsoft stigma that some nix people feel.
- spenczar5 7y ago
  > No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. I don't mean to be rude, but have you worked at a very large company like Microsoft or Amazon or Google? Redundant products are par for the course because of the byzantine internal politics and funding structures of big companies.
  - m0xte 7y ago
    Big companies like Microsoft and Google like to burn products with little notice too.
    - koheripbal 7y ago
      ...and small companies go under or radically morph their products. There's this irrational demand vocal on social media that large corporations keep their products forever.
      - sitkack 7y ago

flyingswift 7y ago

As a former member of Azure DevOps, I've heard from my colleagues that the Work Items and Agile features are totally in maintenance mode