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Show HN: Introvert – Generative artwork to keep you off your phone
- skrebbel 7y agoThis looks like a lovely way to replace a pomodoro timer and similar. I assume there are no plans for an Android version?
- kjhughes 7y agoCool program. Thanks creating and open sourcing (MIT), @ilyayudanov! Built with React Native. Source here: https://github.com/IamIntrovert/Introvert https://github.com/IamIntrovert/Introvert
- rosstex 7y agoCute!
- wpietri 7y agoOooh! I have long wanted something like this, something both compelling and soothing. When I've been doing something intense, it's hard for me to shift my mind into a lower gear; I often find myself back on Twitter or rummaging through the news. This seems like a great alternative. Edit: Oh no! IOS only!
- tyingq 7y agoThe source says it compiles for Android. https://github.com/IamIntrovert/Introvert https://github.com/IamIntrovert/Introvert
- ilyayudanov 7y agoHi! Thank you for your interest. We will release android version soon:)
- ilyayudanov 7y agoI’ll added waiting list to the bottom of the webpage. Since it’s react native we probably can figure out android version quite fast.
- wpietri 7y agoThanks! I've put myself on it. In the meantime, I dug an iPhone 6 out of my test device box to try it out. It's wonderful! Exactly the bridge I want between busy-busy and sitting to meditate. 5 stars, and I wrote you a review!
- jrrrr 7y agohttps://www.binky.rocks/ https://www.binky.rocks/
- chrisshroba 7y agoCheck out Forest! https://www.forestapp.cc/ https://www.forestapp.cc/
- swampthing 7y agoJust curious, why is this named “Introvert”? Is it that this app is thought to be more appealing to introverts?
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agoI took it as instead of texting, or checking social media, you're alone with your own thoughts. For people who want something to do with their phone when they're bored, but hate social stuff.
- furyofantares 7y agoI read it as a noun rather than a verb but you're making me think it was intended as a verb
- mkagenius 7y agoHey, If you are the author, the design details are not visible in the video (I am on my mac), I mean the details aren't visible. Maybe edit the video to zoom on the design when it starts generating for a few seconds?
- ilyayudanov 7y agoHey, thank you, for letting me know! We’ll look into it.
- qwertygerty 7y agoLove it, please do an android version!
- ilyayudanov 7y agoThanks! We’ll figure out android soon.
- Random_ernest 7y agoDo you have something like a mailing list for when it is ready?
- ilyayudanov 7y agoJust added form to the bottom of the website. Thanks for pointing out.
- ilyayudanov 7y agoHey! Thank you for your interest and comments! Just a bit of background thinking. The app named Introvert is a generative artwork aimed to help you stay off your phone. Right now we´re being asked to lead a sedentary life (for the sake of others and our own wellbeing). Only the mind is allowed to wonder. I wish Introvert can help us lead a focused everyday where mindful practise will direct us to make the most of these strange days a head. It’s rather experiment/art project then productivity app:) Introvert is free and open source. Please have a try, I would love to hear any feedback!
- redivysoft 7y agoGreat app, I love the ethos. It would work wonderfully on Apple Watch to show the art being drawn, it's even the correct aspect ratio.
- marcod1419 7y agoI agree, this would look amazing on the watch.
- ilyayudanov 7y agoWe already working on it!
- virgil_disgr4ce 7y agoI don't think I understand the use of the word "Introvert." That, to me, has nothing at all to do with focus or attention or lack thereof? I suppose there could be a suggestion of introspection, but that also has nothing to do necessarily with introversion other than the same prefix.
- wardnath 7y agoGreat idea! Love the idea of creating apps that promote concentration rather than diminish it.
- person_of_color 7y ago
- Funes- 7y agoI don't think setting up a timer on the very device that is distracting you will significantly help you stay away from it, especially on psychological terms. I reckon it will make you dependent on your phone as well, but in a different sense. In my opinion, the development of deeply-rooted discipline and self-control must primarily--even exclusively--come from one's will, at all times and at all levels, in order to be successful. Otherwise, what are you going to do if you cannot access the app for whatever reason? We need to aspire to have a firm will, not a straightened one (by whomever or whatever external).
- Finnucane 7y agoI think what it means is not 'away from phone' but 'away from social media distractions'. Hence the name. But yeah, you shouldn't need an app to take you away from other apps. You could just turn off those apps.
- jolleyboy 7y agoI feel like this argument is equivalent to discouraging someone from training for a marathon on a treadmill.
- SyrupThinker 7y agoTo me the argument is the equivalent of trying to stop eating fast food by asking a friend to come over everyday with fast food.
- w0m 7y agothe problem isn't the fast-food, but the health of the fast food. proper comparison would be trying to stop eating fast food by only having healthy food around the house.
- SyrupThinker 7y agoMy interpretation of grandparent is that the app is probably another distraction in itself. So, I'm not sure what the healthy food in your analogy is. I guess I failed to provide a clear analogy for grandparent (assuming I interpreted them right).
- stared 7y agoI got touched by: > The app is free. > No in-app purchases. > No advertising. > We do not collect your data. > Use the code in any way.
- laurieg 7y agoNice! Looking forward to the android version. Small nitpick: change "an unique" to "a unique".
- afita 7y agoI use Forest (https://www.forestapp.cc/ https://www.forestapp.cc/) which does something similar: plants virtual trees (you can pay to plant real ones too) for every time interval when you stayed focused. I will also try this one when the Android version appears. The generative artwork makes it very compelling.
- airstrike 7y ago> plants virtual trees (you can pay to plant real ones too) for every time interval when you stayed focused. One of my many pet-projects-I'll-never-implement is creating one of these addicting Facebook-driven social games like Farmville (I have no idea what it's modern equivalent is) and instead of distributing profit from ad revenue / in-app purchases, donate all of it to an NGO that does IRL whatever people are doing online. So if planting an in-game tree generates $0.02 in profit from ad revenue / in-app purchases (after operating expenses, taxes, capex, etc) and planting a tree in real life costs $20, the NGO would plant one real tree after users plant 1,000 online trees I think it's a killer idea for a socially-conscious app and I think users would feel incentivized to play this over any of the stupid casual online games with no positive real-life implications.
- bcyn 7y ago> I think users would feel incentivized to play this over any of the stupid casual online games with no positive real-life implications With all due respect, I think this is wrong. People play games that are fun, regardless of real-life implications. If you can make a fun game that is socially-conscious, more power to you. But socially-conscious by itself does not make a killer game.
- airstrike 7y agoRight, I'm starting from the assumption that it would be as much fun as Farmville
- shujito 7y agoI found a glitch/bug: you can accidentally go back to the launch screen (with no way to go forward other than force-closing the app) if you swipe near from the edge right below or above the number scroller/selector.
- nemacol 7y ago"Attention, the ability to pay it and where it is directed, is the most valuable tool..." Oh snap, the MOST valuable tool. Shit. ADD is really holding me back.
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoStep 1: minimize or remove social media from phone. Only keep messenger apps. Step 2: remove all apps and games that require you to use it daily for some sort of reward. Step 3: eliminate any or all notifications save for messages, email, phone, or automated alerts for particular things (like slickdeals or stocks). Step 4: treat your phone as a tool, not an entertainment machine.
- mdre 7y agoI try to do it, but then I end up using websites, log out, then log in after some time and get hooked on again... I used to have a blocker app acting as a pseudo VPN on iOS but I just turned it off constantly.
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoI treat it exactly like I treat online purchases. No auto logins, I MUST enter my credit card (or use paypal, which requires 2FA everytime, no remembering), and I always log out of everything. It makes making a purchase a hassle just like it makes checking up on social media a hassle. I intentionally put barriers up to manipulate my own behavior I know well enough. Yes it's annoying, but I've made a habit of it for so long it's a nuisance that is the "Right" way to do it.
- em-bee 7y agoon the contrary, i treat my phone as an entertainment device so that my computer isn't used for that. i used to read hackernews on the computer, but i found that if i read it on the phone instead, i don't get distracted when i am working on the computer. i can put the phone and all distractions in it away more easily than i can put the computer away.
- callmeed 7y agoI don't get what introvert has to do with focus. Besides that, if you really need to stay off your phone, consider a "distraction free" phone as outlined in the book Make Time by Jake Knapp. Its a solid book but you can also glean that part of it from his blog: https://medium.com/make-time/six-years-with-a-distraction-free-iphone-8cf5eb4f97e3 https://medium.com/make-time/six-years-with-a-distraction-fr... His version might be extreme for some. At the very least disable all notifications (save maybe texts from your SO/children) and delete social media apps.
- ragle 7y ago> I don't get what introvert has to do with focus. A common object of attention for Samatha (one-pointed concentration / tranquility) practice is a Mandala or Kasina. The copy on the site and the mandala-like art the app generates leads me to believe the author hopes people can use the app for this (or a non-Buddhist equivalent concentration practice). I just did a 10 minute session. It's excellent for this purpose!
- mkl 7y agoBut what does that have to do with introversion? Extroverts can focus or make mandalas.
- 411111111111111 7y agoIts likely unrelated to the behavior and more about focusing on yourself. which is technically the definition of the word We're just too used to the psychological definition
- ilyayudanov 7y agoThank you for your comment, I’ll use this explanation myself. Many people asking about it, I didn’t mean psychological definition. I Just really hope it doesn’t sound offensive.
- wardnath 7y ago
- sakekasi 7y agoA little more padding for the top buttons to distance them from the notification bar a little would be great!
- ilyayudanov 7y agoThank you for pointing it out. Missed it while testing on my old iPhone 8. Will definitely fix it in a new release!
- yingw787 7y agoI purchased a Kitchen Safe for $50 and lock my phone up 14-15 hours a day. In an emergency, I can smash the safe for $50 and get my phone out. Works wonders for productivity.
- reimertz 7y agoI investigated where the generation if images where created. Took me some time but it comes from a forked repo from long ago. :) Here is the code: https://github.com/Elf2707/react-native-image-processor/blob/master/ios/RNImageProcessor.swift#L86 https://github.com/Elf2707/react-native-image-processor/blob...
- xwdv 7y agoI have found that all these distraction elimination apps are ultimately useless once their novelty wears off. The only truly lasting way I found to stay off my phone is to wear an Apple Watch and leave my phone at home.
- boromi 7y agois there an android version?
- swayvil 7y agoI like your thing. I posted it to http://reddit.com/r/generative http://reddit.com/r/generative Are you familiar?
- swayvil 7y agoIt's like you are co-opting reality here. An alternative to the phone-dream presented within that very dream.
- bawana 7y agohmmm....subliminal mind control
- hestefisk 7y agoLove it!
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- Fr0styMatt88 7y agoIn a similar vein, a friend of mine released a really simple finger labyrinth app awhile back: https://www.labyrinthjourney.app/ https://www.labyrinthjourney.app/
- mandliya 7y agoSorry if this is a naïve question. Once you have the timer running, are you supposed to keep focus on the art getting generated or you can focus on the work you are doing? (Say reading, in that sense you are focused on the reading and not touching your phone).
- wtmt 7y agoThis looks nice. I’d prefer that the app clearly states upfront that the numbers are in minutes, instead of someone having to guess what it is. It’d also be nice to start at one minute and have one minute increments for the first 10 minutes. Sometimes one just needs a short break. The current minimum length of 10 minutes seems too long for that.
- saratv 7y agoInteresting use of generative technologies