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People of China, please step up and protest the government to stop the sale of wild animals such as this to prevent future outbreaks and protect humanity from a
by blondie9x 7y ago
People of China, please step up and protest the government to stop the sale of wild animals such as this to prevent future outbreaks and protect humanity from animal-borne illnesses.
- blondie9x 7y ago中国人不需要吃这样的动物。我们一起会改变中国。
- lordnacho 7y ago"Chinese people don't need to eat these kinds of animals. Together we can change China" * Still learning Mandarin.
- sidesquid 7y agothat's correct
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoTCM in general is becoming harmful while the good it does isn’t clear at all, these renegade cures that involve wild endangered species even more so.
- soperj 7y agoThe 2009 swine flu epidemic originated in the states. Are you asking to shut down pig farms in the US as well?
- jlawson 7y agoNo, it originated in Veracruz, Mexico. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic
- Ritsuko_akagi 7y agoyes
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> The 2009 swine flu epidemic originated in the states As another comment [1] mentioned, the 2009 swine flu originated in Mexico [2]. The 1918 Spanish flu, on the other hand, originated in Kansas [3]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22694893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22694893 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic#Mexico https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic#Mexico [3] https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/flu-epidemic-of-1918/17805 https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/flu-epidemic-of-1918/17805
- geddy 7y agoDepends. Do you want pandemics to keep happening? If you don't, then yes, animal farms in general need to be shut down. But they won't, because the world is addicted to eating meat, and pandemics will keep happening. Speaking of which, I need to get back to work but I'll see ya in an identical comment section in four years where people will blame, oh I don't know, the eating of chinchillas or something.
- maximente 7y agowhy stop at "wild" animals? might as well go whole hog (pun intended) and go plant based to the extent possible.
- foxyv 7y agoI wonder why I don't hear this argument more from vegans. Eating animals spreads disease. Chronic wasting disease, avian flu, SARS, Influenza, mad cow, probably even the common cold.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoYou will. Vegans do bring this up now, but they're outshouted by people talking about the more important problem at the moment - stopping the current pandemic.
- geddy 7y agoI'd argue it's just as important right now to take the coronavirus as a massive warning and stop doing what we are currently doing. It's only a matter of time before this happens again - Bill Gates predicted this would happen back in 2015 in a Ted talk.
- easytiger 7y ago> Bill Gates predicted Man predicts spread of virus in animal species. What vision.
- geddy 7y agoYour phrasing suggests that it's very obvious, yet you are blaming salads as the real public crisis in an earlier comment. Fact is, breeding animals and raising them for food is going to keep resulting in pandemics. Like the one that we are currently going through. Don't raise livestock or breed/catch wild animals, and the contact between humans and animals drastically lowers. Then pandemics don't happen. If that market in Wuhan didn't exist, we wouldn't be having this conversation today.
- slg 7y agoWhat makes pangolins more dangerous than pigs or ducks which have been a similar source of human diseases? Because I can't tell if pangolins are a greater threat or if they are just an easy target because the practice of eating them is not as widespread as eating other common disease carriers.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> What makes pangolins more dangerous than pigs or ducks which have been a similar source of human diseases? It's less the species than the wet markets. Putting lots of species in close proximity, particularly ones that don't naturally co-exist, facilitates host jumping. Its only comparison is with medieval European cities, where people, sewage and livestock had constant and close proximity to one another.
- jonny_eh 7y ago> Putting lots of species in close proximity Live ones at that.
- sharatvir 7y ago"Close proximity" does it a disservice when there are cages of animals stacked on top of one another such that the animals in the bottom cages may be covered in the feces of those above them.
- slg 7y agoWhich is what I expected. There is truth to diseases like this coming from dangerous food practices, but that often gets coated in a layer of ethnocentrism that pins it on a specific animal or the need to hunt wildlife instead of relying on a factory farming infrastructure (which is also increasing the potential for global pandemic by overusing antibiotics).
- mytailorisrich 7y agoBats can nest in many places where animals and livestock are kept. See MERS and its relation to bats and camels.
- verify_sirrah 7y agoThe CCP has already done so. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/asia/china-coronavirus-wildlife-consumption-ban-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/asia/china-coronavirus-wildli...
- lurquer 7y ago>People of China, please step up and protest the government ha. I don't think you quite understand how China works.