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Show HN: A Covid-19 testing location site that a group of us are building
- AndrewKemendo 7y agoHi, HN: We saw a need for a site that people could find Covid-19 test locations, so a group of us developers and medical professionals decided to build one. Here's the Ask HN that started the ball rolling a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22577979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22577979 Over the last week DataDrivenMD and I were able to pull together 15 developers to get this out. The speed that we were able to cobble together a team that can work smoothly, 100% remotely from all different organizations has been amazing. The crisis action team for the state of CA has reached out to see if they can collaborate with us, and we’re doing our best to understand how to work with state and local governments going forward. Thanks to the fantastic volunteers, we have we were able to refactor early, away from the junk front end I built, to something that we can actually scale on the front and back end. We’re currently struggling with how to scale our collection and updating of test locations as they spring up, and we hope to build an application to allow providers to submit their locations on their own. Right now that whole process is manual, based on manually scraping/validating locations that are publicly stating they are doing testing. If infrastructure existed to identify places that are testing, we would be using it, but it doesn’t as far as we know, so we’re building the communication infrastructure for these test sites as it starts forming. We’re US only right now but if we can get to a scalable way to collect test location data we can be worldwide. This is a 100% volunteer effort explicitly for public good. We will not monetize the site, sell access to any resources we have, or in any way monetarily or personally benefit from this project, we have no plans to continue as a group any longer than we need to. No single organization is sponsoring this, and we have credits from GCP and AWS to run our infrastructure so Jorge and I don't go broke! Please help us: Post in this thread any feedback, suggestions for scaling how we source and verify testing location data (manual currently), or anything you think useful! We’ll be monitoring the thread. Our code is 100% FOSS: https://github.com/codersagainstcovidorg/covid19testing-map https://github.com/codersagainstcovidorg/covid19testing-map. We're available at @findcovidtest on twitter and contact@codersagainstcovid.org. Thanks!
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- thesis 7y agoPretty neat seeing which states have the most testing locations. I'm pretty sure Houston has a few testing locations, but nothing is showing up on the map for me currently. Just some feedback, this runs pretty slowly for me on my laptop. Is the full screen map necessary? Might be nice to have a Google Maps feel where it has the list on the side of the locations currently in view
- AndrewKemendo 7y agoWe need better data sources so if you can help us find them send a note about the locations you know about to: contact@codersagainstcovid.org
- testplzignore 7y agoEchoing what was said about running slowly. On mobile Chrome it is slow but usable. On mobile Firefox it is too slow/janky to use. I appreciate the effort that has gone into this, but I do think it would be good to have an alternative non-map interface without the heavy js. Or figure out how to improve the performance, though that might require swapping out mapbox entirely.
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoYes - Houston data will be coming soon. It took extra effort to figure out how testing was being coordinated among the TMC hospitals and their community-based partners. Stay tuned for updates - we are pushing data out regularly from this point forward.
- g_p 7y agoNice initiative! Testing seems key to getting control of spread, so anything that can make it easier to get people tested is key. I wonder if there's enough capacity among the testing facilities to signal when they are out of capacity, or severely backlogged on tests, to avoid potentially affected people arriving needlessly? One technical issue though - I'm seeing a white (blank) page when visiting in Firefox, though it seems to load fine in Chrome. 2 errors in the JS console, in case they help: TypeError: "navigator.geolocation is undefined" at react-dom.production.min.js:196:194 TypeError: navigator.geolocation is undefined at App.tsx:121:4
- pjc50 7y agoPlease check what your local medical advice is on whether you should be getting tested; very few places have surplus testing capacity for the "worried well", so you may be taking it from somewhere it's needed.
- maxerickson 7y agoMost places won't run a test for people that don't meet the criteria. Which I hope the makers here are thinking about how people will behave. I would be tempted to only show places that were basically testing anyone on a map and then provide per state/jurisdiction information about figuring out whether it's worth going somewhere otherwise. Figuring out where to go to provide a sample is the easy part.
- AndrewKemendo 7y agoYes, we do. Most of the locations are by appointment - even that is still hard to get. We need to make that clearer up front so thanks for the feedback both of you.
- dillonmckay 7y agoThe road to hell is paved with good intentions. This idea seems like it would only be useful when coupled w a screening app that asks questions, give your temp and O2 oximeter reading, then provide locations, but even then, each county of each state has a completely different protocol for scheduling.
- LaFolle 7y agoSeems we do have a screening app online https://www.screencovid.org/ https://www.screencovid.org/. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22649822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22649822
- dillonmckay 7y agoNow, couple that with this, and get a bunch of volunteers to work the phones and keep it updated by county, and then it is useful.
- ct520 7y agoapparently Arizona gives 0 f about testing.
- dang 7y agoPlease don't do this here.
- ct520 7y agolook at the map, talk to healthcare professionals. We stopped testing. Come on man do you just look for my comments or what. "As far as one knows or can see, arizona does not care to test the general public" Happy?
- dang 7y agoDefinitely not looking for your comments; just trying to raise the bar above flamebait. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines? They'll give you a clearer idea of what we're looking for here: thoughtful, curious conversation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- ct520 7y ago“As far as one knows or can see, arizona does not care to test the general public?” I missed the question mark in my haste. It was a question.
- dang 7y agoThat's definitely a better way of putting it, but "does not care" is still an inflammatory presumption. Why not ask your question in a neutral way, without a sarcastic twist that implies a nasty answer?
- ct520 7y agoHmm. You may be on to something. Thanks dang have a good night and will try to remember your comment before I post next time
- LaFolle 7y agoReally appreciate this guys! cmiiw, by default the website shows locations which are not public health agencies and "checks patients for symptoms" and if we want to see all locations which provide COVID-19 testing we need to enable (toggle) radio button "Offers COVID-19 testing" in filter which is present in flyout at top left corner. Correct?
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoWe were careful not to assume that all public health departments would engage in testing. We manually verified the information, and for those public health agencies that explicitly indicated on their websites or through direct channels that they offered testing we marked them as "offers COVID-19 testing". That being said, there are many areas of the country where the local, county, and state health departments effectively function as gatekeepers. In those communities, people have no choice but to call their health department and hope for the best. If they meet testing criteria, then they are referred to a testing location or fast-tracked through an existing healthcare provider’s queue. If nothing else, this site crystallizes the fuzzy image that we all had in mind with respect to testing capacity. The situation is changing all the time, and we expect things to get better. You can help by raising awareness, and asking people you know in the Midwest and Southern states to visit our site and share their on-the-ground knowledge of the situation.
- oyebenny 7y agoWe need updates on Georgia's (USA) sites bad. Thank you for doing all this.
- AndrewKemendo 7y agoWe need people sourcing data, so if you can help we'll take it. Contact@codersagainstcovid.org Or you can add a site here that we will validate: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe2sCuCrQwEHwi3FLiyRB9CYWRmSUiGyyK8RLsQPwhfrJTI4g/viewform https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe2sCuCrQwEHwi3FLiy...
- egonzalesevans 7y agoEmory is on our short list for data entry! We are hoping to get that data shortly. And thanks! :)
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoAlso want to share that you're not imagining things: best we can tell, those living in Georgia have very few options beyond their health department. Even Emory is limited in its capacity - last I heard they were hoping to be able to get to 400 tests/day by this weekend. We'll add Emory to the site soon. Even so, I encourage those who live in Georgia to share their insight with us by adding testing locations so that we can help others in their community. We will also continue to research and update the site as new options become available - including home-based testing. We've already heard from a couple of companies in this space, but we're waiting for them to provide us with proof that their test is FDA validated and approved. Once they do that, we'll add their information to the site as well.
- oggy 7y agoThank you for the work on this. I have a tangentially related question, hoping that someone knowledgeable can answer. What are the main bottlenecks to scaling testing, in particular in the following stages: - the supply of virus-specific reagents (primers, perhaps virus-specific reporting probes - are these necessary, or can just generic reporters be used?) - the supply of other reagents (in case of PCR, polymerase, nucleotide material, buffer) - the supply of disposable testing equipment. I know that swabs are in short supply for some reason, anything else? - safety in handling both the samples and the amplified product (can you basically flush the processed sample down the toilet, or do you need to handle it with extreme precautions)
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoShort answer: they have all been bottlenecks thus far. In fact, that's a big reason why testing hasn't improved as rapidly as everyone hoped it would. The biggest bottleneck now is dwindling supplies of personal protective equipment (PPE) for those involved in obtaining and handling the test specimens.
- 40four 7y agoSlow clap ... This is amazing. Thank guys so much for building something like this. Rapidly building up access to, and information on testing sites is one of the most important things we can do right now. Our leadership (in the USA) certainly isn’t doing it. I feel like anytime I say we should follow the example of countries who focused on testing, I’m immediately rebuffed with talking points, excuses why it won’t work, or why we should just hide in our house for an undetermined amount of time. This is one of the best Covid-19 related projects I’ve seen come across the front page. You guys identified one of the most pressing problems, and figured out how to get it done. Thank you so much!
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoAppreciate the slow clap - would love your help. See Andrew's note to learn about ways to help.
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- pnw_hazor 7y agoSK reformed their entire pandemic response in 2015. They were better prepared for Covid-19 because they were better prepared. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-south-korea-scaled-coronavirus-testing-while-the-us-fell-dangerously-behind https://www.propublica.org/article/how-south-korea-scaled-co...
- nerdponx 7y agoBut that's the point. Why wasn't the US prepared?
- ThomPete 7y agoThis is amazing work. But please don't just go there to check if you have corona unless you have some of the symptoms. Otherwise you are going to flood the already strained system.
- certifiedloud 7y agoIs there raw data available somewhere?
- DataDrivenMD 7y agoYes - all over the place. That was the biggest challenge: sourcing and validating the data. It's also why this is and will continue to be a work in progress: the situation on the ground is dynamic. We need help sourcing and validating data. If you're willing to volunteer, send a note to contact@codersagainstcovid.org
- cavisne 7y agoNice! I was pleasantly surprised that there is a testing centre 3 blocks from my apartment (i don't know where else I could have found this information). I also really like this "Unless you are explicitly told otherwise, you MUST complete your self-isolation period - even if your test result is negative for COVID-19." I'm quite concerned by hypochondriac's and general attention seekers spamming the test system, being forced to self-isolate regardless is a perfect deterrent.
- souterrain 7y agoNew York City is rationing testing as a measure of lowering healthcare worker exposure and reducing use of limited personal protective equipment supplies. "If you think you have COVID-19 and your illness is mild, you do not need to see your health care provider and you will not be tested. Getting tested will not change what your provider will tell you to do to get better. They will tell you to stay home so you do not get others sick. Unless you are hospitalized and a diagnosis will impact your care, you will not be tested. Limiting testing protects health care workers and saves essential medical supplies, such as masks and gloves, that are in short supply." https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/coronavirus.page https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/coronavir...
- sjg007 7y agoAre these official state tests or does that include commercial tests?
- souterrain 7y agoI believe the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene has regulatory authority over healthcare providers within the City of New York. Their 2020 Advisory #8 COVID-19 Update for New York City [1] directed towards healthcare providers states in the summary that "Outpatient testing must not be encouraged, promoted or advertised." Additionally, "To preserve PPE for HCW providing medically necessary care for hospitalized patients, the NYC Health Department is directing healthcare facilities to IMMEDIATELY STOP TESTING NON-HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS FOR COVID-19 unless test results will impact the clinical management of the patient. In addition, do not test asymptomatic people, including HCWs or first responders. COVID-19 testing is only indicated for HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS." [1] https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/han/advisory/2020/covid-19-03202020.pdf https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/han/advisory/2...
- sjg007 7y agoOk so that tells you how f* we are.
- sjg007 7y agoSweet Google map.
- dumbfounder 7y agoTry to get the attention of these guys: https://www.mercatus.org/features/mercatus-launches-prize-fund-combat-covid-19 https://www.mercatus.org/features/mercatus-launches-prize-fu...
- squidarth 7y agoHey, this is awesome! Just a heads up that Greenwich, CT is labeled as Los Angeles on the map, not sure if other cities are mislabeled too.
- samfisher83 7y agoSome places they are not revealing the location of the testing as they are getting overwhelmed.
- keithnz 7y agoOut of interest In the US, how much help is testing now other than to sample the population to get an idea of the spread? Would it not be more interesting to know how well people are self isolating? Finding out where the message isn't getting through?
- williesleg 7y agoTesting is fun, but here's the real story you won't find anywhere, including "hacker news" https://newsroom.ibm.com/US-Dept-of-Energy-Brings-the-Worlds-Most-Powerful-Supercomputer-the-IBM-POWER9-based-Summit-Into-the-Fight-Against-COVID-19 https://newsroom.ibm.com/US-Dept-of-Energy-Brings-the-Worlds...
- MichaelVG 7y agoDude I can't even understand this blog it is gross!
- pkalinowski 7y agoNice! He're in Poland government _forbids_ taking virus tests. Private companies have plenty of them, but are unable to even give them to hospitals. Ministry of Health forbids hospitals from taking more than X tests per day, so even if somebody has symptoms they need to wait till morning among other patients.
- mkl 7y agoWhat is the logic behind that?
- pkalinowski 7y agoPropaganda. No tests = no virus
- idreyn 7y agoClicking to zoom is giving me a React-style white screen of death and the error "bearing is required for transition". FF/Chrome latest, macOS 10.14.6
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- droidist2 7y agoSurprised Alaska has so many! Is there a reason there's so many there?
- soared 7y agoWhy not just make a google map with pins?
- cachvico 7y agoI this this may be doing more harm than good. The test centers are a stretched resource at the moment. People need to call their local non-emergency line for instructions if they have symptoms. This map is incomplete by your own admission, which makes it practically misinformation. We don't need guerrilla tactics in this war.
- forkexec 7y agoWasn't Verily supposed to do this, or are they moving too slowly? Edit: This item's page doesn't work on iPad. After three seconds, the page freezes.
- toohotatopic 7y agoHow about collecting the price of the test, the expected waiting time and the type of the test? When I need to be tested, I don't want to phone several providers but I want to find the closest free slot for a test that suits my needs. E.g. if I don't have symptoms, I cannot use an antibody test.
- azernik 7y agoThanks so much for putting this together! It is insane that this is not being done by the government, and that it's left to random coders to throw this together in their free time.
- bathtub365 7y agoPeople should be following the instructions of the health authority in their area instead of blindly going to a testing location they see on this website.
- ycf00f 7y agoPlease make sure to publicize and somehow show evidence that you're NOT that other site: Oscar Health's "free covid19 risk assessment" & testing locator. Oscar was started by Jared K, (tRUMP's S-I-L). Visitors of their site (at hioscar-dot-com-slash-covid19) are given a "free" assessment and referral to a testing center. So far so good, right? In the back end, a "service fee" is charged to the Fed Govt for each person that uses the system. Being that Jared's in the family, there's no doubt that Oscar will get paid everything it asks for.