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Only? That's more cases than the UK has. If you scale Denmark's 617 cases up to the US population, it's 36,000 cases equivalent. If you scale it to China, it'd

Only? That's more cases than the UK has. If you scale Denmark's 617 cases up to the US population, it's 36,000 cases equivalent. If you scale it to China, it'd be near 150,000. What's worthy of "only" about that? That's a shit show. A colossal failure, in the parlance currently being thrown at the US. How about Norway currently? 43,000 equivalent. How about Italy? 60,000 cases equivalent, with 5,500 deaths. Switzerland? 25,000 equivalent. Sweden? 20,000 equivalent. But I understand, America bad. It's the same obnoxious theme in every thread on HN right now. Europe's results - including Denmark - are not impressive at all. That's the actual situation.

wool_gather 7y ago
We can compare these numbers in (hopefully) 8-10 months, after we have better information about the first incidence in various places, and especially the rate of testing. Right now, even your attempted normalization for population is meaningless because effectively the only thing that we know about the state of play in different places is that it's different. We don't know in what ways (let alone why).
cmurf 7y ago
Using the word equivalent when there is no equivalent testing, and you're not accounting for the difference in initial exposure times, is deceptive. The lack of testing is admitted by the head of the NIH, multiple times, most recently today: The idea of anybody getting it easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we're not set up for that. Do I think we should be? Yes. But we're not. That is a failing. It is a failing. Let's admit it. Dr. Anthony Fauci You do not know what the actual situation is.
krageon 7y ago
When China was suffering, people were screaming at the top of their voice how unreliable they are and how bad they are. Now the US is suffering, and it has leadership that's easily as bad but you're defending it. It's fine to call out bad behaviour, but not if it's rooted in xenophobia and doublethink.

wool_gather 7y ago

We can compare these numbers in (hopefully) 8-10 months, after we have better information about the first incidence in various places, and especially the rate of testing. Right now, even your attempted normalization for population is meaningless because effectively the only thing that we know about the state of play in different places is that it's different. We don't know in what ways (let alone why).

cmurf 7y ago

Using the word equivalent when there is no equivalent testing, and you're not accounting for the difference in initial exposure times, is deceptive. The lack of testing is admitted by the head of the NIH, multiple times, most recently today: The idea of anybody getting it easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we're not set up for that. Do I think we should be? Yes. But we're not. That is a failing. It is a failing. Let's admit it. Dr. Anthony Fauci You do not know what the actual situation is.

krageon 7y ago

When China was suffering, people were screaming at the top of their voice how unreliable they are and how bad they are. Now the US is suffering, and it has leadership that's easily as bad but you're defending it. It's fine to call out bad behaviour, but not if it's rooted in xenophobia and doublethink.