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NBA suspends season over the coronavirus after player tests positive
- natrik 7y agoA player, Rudy Gobert, tested positive for Coronavirus today. He recently did this, https://twitter.com/SomeonesAnIdiot/status/1237919703781294081 https://twitter.com/SomeonesAnIdiot/status/12379197037812940... claiming something along the lines of 'it's not a big deal'
- mxcrossb 7y agoSo, I don’t believe in karma, but man that is something. I wonder if deep in his subconscious he knew he had the disease, and was acting rebellious.
- booleandilemma 7y agoIt would be interesting if the disease caused the host to be inclined to spread it.
- im3w1l 7y agoColds make people more social I've heard, so doing that would be plausible.
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- judge2020 7y agoThere's only a few studies on this I could find via some google & google scholar: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwins-subterranean-world/201801/does-the-flu-trick-people-being-sociable https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwins-subterranean... https://evesdrift.com/2014/01/01/change-in-human-social-behavior-in-response-to-a-common-vaccine-flu-vaccine/ https://evesdrift.com/2014/01/01/change-in-human-social-beha... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=13499859159231836935&as_sdt=80005&sciodt=0,11&hl=en https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1349985915923183693...
- invisiblerobot 7y agoSyphillis does that. Lowers the hosts inhibitions and increases their risk seeking behaviour.
- Reedx 7y agoThere's a parasitic fungus that does this with insects. It takes over, compelling the host to move to a location where the fungus can reproduce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijGdWn5-h8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijGdWn5-h8
- alasdair_ 7y agoThis is also the plot hook for The Last of Us, a superbly-crafted game for the PS3/4.
- arcticbull 7y agoAnd soon to be HBO show! [1] [1] https://www.techradar.com/news/the-last-of-us-hbo-tv-show https://www.techradar.com/news/the-last-of-us-hbo-tv-show
- alasdair_ 7y agoFantastic! Thanks for letting me know!
- sangnoir 7y agoI'm assuming you mean beyond inducing the host to aerosolize infectious fluids via sneezing and coughing. Here's a fun fact: Toxoplasma gondii causes rats to like cats (feces) instead of fearing them, making them prone to being eaten by cats - which is great for the parasite as it reproduces in cat's alimentary system. Incidentally, humans with Toxoplasmosis are over-represented in traffic accidents, which may suggests some of that recklessness effect carries over.
- anonu 7y ago> humans with Toxoplasmosis are over-represented in traffic accidents huh?
- kittiepryde 7y agohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5619715/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5619715/ Study, 'Significance of chronic toxoplasmosis in epidemiology of road traffic accidents in Russian Federation'
- nickcox 7y agoLike rabies?
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- narrator 7y agoThis was in the story "saviour of the plague years" in a 1995 Wired magazine futurist fiction compilation. They called the desire to run around and spread the disease the "Hong Kong Jog."
- sangnoir 7y agoThe guinea worm spreads via drinking egg-infested water. When the parasite becomes fully developed in the human body, it migrates to the skin where it causes blisters accompanied by burning pain. The pain induces the host to immerse the boil in water; immediately relieving the pain - and allowing the parasite to release its eggs for the next host to drink.
- daxfohl 7y agoOr it's possible that's where he contracted it.
- endorphone 7y agoHe is showing symptoms too quickly to have gotten it from that, but he certainly could have been spreading it.
- ncallaway 7y agoI would be a little hesitant when making that claim. It would certainly be a shorter than usual incubation period, but I don't know how many sigmas away from the mean it would be.
- endorphone 7y agoThree days is considered the minimum to be symptomatic. It's possible, of course -- maybe very high activity accelerated the timeline -- but he spends his days around hundreds of people, and then occasionally tens of thousands of people. Just walking out of the tunnel he is under the respiratory cloud of hundreds of people. It seems deeply improbable that this event was the cause, not least because the timeline isn't among the probable set.
- ncallaway 7y agoOh, sure, I'm very happy to agree with the claim that it's very unlikely that he got the virus from this event. I wasn't trying to dispute that.
- ncallaway 7y agoI think this kind of behavior does increase your risk of getting the disease, but I imagine there's a strong selection bias. People that don't do this, won't have a viral moment when it's announced that they have the disease. People that do this kind of thing can have a viral moment when it's announced.
- partiallypro 7y agoIs it possible he could be sued over this if any of the reporters contract it?
- travisjungroth 7y agoI hope so.
- KarlKemp 7y agoFascinating question... There's this standard case for law students (here in Germany): A man wishes his wife was dead. He sends her out to the mailbox on rainy day, muttering "I hope you get hit by lightning" under his breath. She does get hit by lightning and dies. Murder?
- uh2010 7y agoforce majeure
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- skunkworker 7y agoHe didn’t know he had it and the team doctors didn’t check until earlier tonight. But it was in very poor taste.
- daxfohl 7y agoRest of world: This will overwhelm our health system. USA: This will overwhelm our legal system.
- skunkworker 7y agoWhile that was a stupid thing to do and in poor taste. Rudy Gobert did not know he had covid-19 until tonight and the NBA cancelled the season within an hour or so. https://www.instagram.com/p/B9nfSnMhqJF/?igshid=1n32u59f63bps https://www.instagram.com/p/B9nfSnMhqJF/?igshid=1n32u59f63bp...
- siruncledrew 7y agoIf he tested positive after participating in practice and being with the team, I wouldn’t be surprised if other Jazz players end up testing positive too. Good thing the Jazz-Thunder game was called off because with all the physicality and contact during an NBA game it would have been so easy to spread the virus to other teams even if Gobert wasn’t in the game.
- natrik 7y agohttps://twitter.com/JDFSports/status/1237913999074787328 https://twitter.com/JDFSports/status/1237913999074787328 His teammate Emmanuel Mudiay has also tested positive. Edit:Unconfirmed source
- prawn 7y agoOne of the Utah sports journos has said that their feeling at the time was that Gobert was saying he had no fear of contact with the journalists (forced to be 8'+ from him) rather than wasn't scared of dispersing the virus. Doesn't help much in hindsight and this incident may define him from here! https://twitter.com/andyblarsen/status/1237960552938385408 https://twitter.com/andyblarsen/status/1237960552938385408
- King-Aaron 7y agoIt looks like the video's been removed?
- natrik 7y agohttps://twitter.com/sportsreup/status/1237914886220455938 https://twitter.com/sportsreup/status/1237914886220455938
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- koolba 7y agoHopefully we can still watch the rest of the XFL season.
- Cyberdog 7y agoIndeed. It would probably be socially responsible to cancel their season too, but I'm really enjoying their games (at least the ones that air on free TV). Here's hoping the NBA, and whatever leagues might be affected, are able to reschedule their games once this nasty bug finally dies out.
- AmericanChopper 7y agoI’m planning on watching the F1 Australian GP this weekend (on tv, not in Australia). So far China is the only race on the calendar that they’ve “rescheduled”. There was news yesterday that 3 F1 team members (not drivers) were in isolation pending test results. But they say everything is going ahead.
- gregoryl 7y agoThe track is less than 50 metres from my window, can confirm it is very much in full swing.
- gregoryl 7y agoAnd now the track is being dismantled!
- tunap 7y agoAfter running the 1st race in Qatar with only the moto 2 & moto 3 classes, MotoGP has rescheduled the next 3 races for later dates in the season. That's a lot of money deferred indefinitely. Edit: Closer to home(mine), I was sent away at the doors of a minor league hockey game in the midwest tonight. Only team, staff & media personnel were allowed in the doors for the game that was still being played.
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- antidaily 7y agoAnd Rudy is positive afrer mic-touching stunt! Yeesh.
- jackschultz 7y agoGabrage article. This needs to be removed. First, the games tonight are still planned to continue and start, unlike what the article says. The tweet it links says suspension happens starting tomorrow. Edit: Refs just left the court in Sacramento. Game will be actually postponed, so I suppose that article is correct about that now. Gobert is the guy who was tested positive, and as shown in a different comment, did the ridiculous joke of touching mics and recorders after press conference. The part about what happened is correct, but more interesting than their brief statement. Starters were on the middle of the court maybe 10 seconds before tip off, when a medical staff "rushed" onto the court, https://streamable.com/g4evt https://streamable.com/g4evt, talked to the refs, and the players were taken off. Currently, possibly still, they're in the locker rooms waiting to be tested since Gobert was already tested. I find this whole thing incredibly interesting because I follow so many sports. The way it was broadcast on ESPN during their first Wednesday game where they cut away to interviews, the way /r/nba reacted with the tweets from Woj, and also what this'll mean for other sports.
- dlbucci 7y agoThat's not true, they at least postponed/canceled the Jazz/Thunder game.
- jackschultz 7y agoYes, because that was the game where Gobert was in, and the only game postponed today. The game next on ESPN, Pelicans Kings is still going to be played. The article claims that all other games today will be canceled, which is incorrect. Edit: Now it's suspended. Refs and players off the court with the last game tonight.
- ohyeshedid 7y agoYou were incorrect both times you replaced the widely reported information with your feelings. Misinformation is problematic, maybe slow down and check more sources before going that route again?
- ceejayoz 7y agoBetween this and Tom Hanks, it may feel a lot more real to a lot of people tomorrow.
- katzgrau 7y agoI was thinking the same thing. Even though I'd been following this since January and have already been taking it very seriously, Hanks, NBA, and Europe travel ban suddenly make it seem like there's a loud knock at the door.
- gpm 7y agoTom Hanks is what gets you, not the U.S. suspending all travel from Europe for 30 days? I don't get people.
- elicash 7y agoThe U.S. did not suspend all travel from Europe. The WH issues clarifications and corrections shortly after the speech. First, it's not all of Europe -- 26 of 44 countries in Europe affected. Second, it doesn't include cargo (the president misspoke). Third, it doesn't restrict Americans traveling. Those affected are foreign nationals who have been those 26 countries in the last 14 days. I agree this is still a bigger deal than Tom Hanks. However, for 99.99% Americans it's the first person they "know" who has coronavirus. So obviously people will see that and it will feel more real to them than a short-term ban on certain foreign nationals who were in 26 countries in the last two weeks. The restrictions start for foreign nationals who aren't up in the air by Friday night, midnight Eastern time.
- grecy 7y agoCelebrity worship in America is extremely powerful. Don't ever underestimate how much it's central to American culture.
- furyofantares 7y agoIn this case it actually seems kind of rational. It's really hard to process all the information that's available about what's going on; it's changing constantly, there's no consensus on a lot of stuff, the numbers and curves are highly unnatural to think about even if they didn't have massive uncertainty in their variables, and on and on. As an example, instead let's talk about the lottery. If I hear that a movie star won the lottery, that's pretty surprising. I didn't expect to ever even know the name of someone that wins the lottery. The odds are really, really long and I don't know the names of enough people. And oh, an NBA player won the lottery today too? OK, well maybe this lottery doesn't work the way I was thinking.
- MobileVet 7y agoESPN is a little more reliable https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28887560/nba-suspends-season-further-notice-player-tests-positive-coronavirus https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28887560/nba-suspends-se...
- adrianmonk 7y agoThe NBA's Twitter account is now confirming they have suspended it for now: https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1237917831506857989 https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1237917831506857989
- drcode 7y agoBoy, I'm glad I did my big grocery store today and not tomorrow.
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- xnyan 7y agoSame. Didn’t go crazy but got more of the less-perishables that I’m going to eat anyway. Maybe 90% of the rice was gone, ditto for cooking oil and other staples (mid-atlantic us south). Fresh vegetables and meats and everything else really seemed in normal stock for now.
- wincy 7y agoI own a canner so can turn perishable stuff into long term stuff. Might just have to start doing it too.
- chirau 7y agoI wonder if the NCAA will follow suit. I know they already said the games would be empty
- im3w1l 7y agoNBA gets people seated in front of their TV's. I worry that this suspension means would be viewers go outside more.
- duxup 7y agoYeah I was kinda hoping if so many people need to be home... maybe they could play. Guess not.
- xnyan 7y agoI wonder how risky just walking outside is if you don’t talk to or touch anything and you’re not in a crowded area. Certainly more than sealing yourself in a room but I wonder if walking past someone briskly with your hands in your pockets has a significant risk of transmission?
- 40acres 7y agoAll players need to be tested. Thankfully they are young and healthy so the risk is low personally. Think about how many players lick their hands before a free throw and then pass it around, the refs touch the ball for tip off, etc. Damn a pandemic really makes you aware about how many microbes are out there.
- philliphaydon 7y agoI'm a little bit sick of hearing stuff related to age. "oh but they are in their 30's they will be ok" etc. It doesn't change the fact they are now carriers and are potentially going to infect a child, or an elderly, or someone with a compromised immune system.
- lawn 7y agoOr infect others who in turn will infect children or elderly.
- quaquaqua1 7y agoThe death rate for everyone under 50 is 0.1%, or 1 in 1000. The death rate for those over 80 is 12% or higher. Now, if everyone shuts down their life and somehow society can survive for 3 weeks with nobody allowed to move anywhere, maybe this virus goes away. But, I think the economic consequences of that will be a lot worse than just continuing on with normal life and making sure people over 80 and people with chronic diseases are cloistered away and cared for.
- Lewton 7y agoIt seems like you're really underestimating the severity of the situation I implore you to read up on what the situation in Italy is like at this moment, and to look into why the Danish government just declared Denmark in lockdown mode. Denmark went from 30 diagnosed cases to over 500 in 5 days. This is with an aggressive testing protocol that includes tracking, testing and quarantining every person each new case has been in contact with. To think that the US with their limited and delayed testing is at anywhere below 20000 actual infections by now seems extremely optimistic Everyone will get sick -at the same time-. That's a really really big deal
- AtlasBarfed 7y agoOur "market-base" healthcare system is totally unfit for pandemic containment. Oh you have the disease, and you're part of the legions of people that 1) don't have insurance or 2) have skyhigh catastrophic coverage insurance. You're first question isn't "should I get treatment", it is: WHO WILL PAY FOR MY QUARANTINE. And people will avoid the billing-happy US healthcare system, and large percentages of people stay in circulation.
- ohyeshedid 7y agoIt's a virus, not a disease. EDIT: Nope, fubar'd this; it's a disease. Thanks hexane360. There is no medical treatment for most people; there is no cure to administer. Stay hydrated, manage symptoms, rest, and monitor for worsening conditions is about all that can be done for the majority of people. EDIT: Edited for structure.
- hexane360 7y agoCOVID-19 is a disease. The virus is SARS-CoV-2. You're not even right at being pedantic. Illnesses don't need to be treatable or curable to be called diseases.
- ohyeshedid 7y agoI never said they need to be treatable nor curable to be called diseases. What I am, is wrong about it not being a disease. All these are listed as diseases: SARS-COV, MERS-COV, and nCOV. Even, also, the common flu. I never thought of that as a disease before now, since it's a viral infection. Thank you for making me learn a little more tonight.
- Godel_unicode 7y agoNot sure where you're seeing those "listed", but those are the names of viruses which are associated with diseases. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome-related_coronavirus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_synd...
- aazaa 7y agoThe financial hit from this and other event closures, travel restrictions, supply chain disruptions, and lost wages is going to be massive. Asset prices and employment reports do not in any way reflect what's in store.
- arcticbull 7y agoAsset prices are based on forward looking projections of the business, not on current revenues, or even next quarter's revenues. This is why S&P 500 companies trade at an average valuation of 15X their current-year earnings. If anything, they're way oversold already. Nothing's fundamentally or structurally changed in the US economy. There were no bad mortgages. We hit the brakes for a bit, but before you know it we'll be back up on our feet and working our asses off, and if we're lucky, we'll get some mandatory paid sick days added to employment law out of it. [edit] well actually, something has fundamentally changed: the cost of borrowing got somehow even lower meaning an eventual recovery may be turbocharged. The Fed is very unlikely to raise rates as we move past this.
- smidgeoncoup 7y agoWell right now the trailing 12 month PE average for S&P is 20. So still above historical norm after this 20% drop. I wouldn't say things are oversold, rather everything was way overvalued. And people are overlooking the fact this is just the herald wave, and probability of a catastrophic 2nd wave this fall/winter is pretty damn high. This isn't going away. This more than likely will move through the population a few times over the next few years until the vulnerable are "sifted through" so to speak. I want to believe in our scientific and technical capabilities but nobody should hold their breath for an effective vaccine in the next year or two. This has the potential to fundamentally and structurally change more than just the economy. But I feel you..99x out of 100 you're spot on. Unfortunately, it's looking like the potential reality we might be facing is something most can't or don't want to comprehend. It at least deserves real consideration and thought.. we'll get through it and move on, but I don't think people grasp or want to believe what might be to come.
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- Munky-Necan 7y agoThe best thing we can do to stop the spread is things like this, unfortunately.
- NoPicklez 7y agoGiven the incredible impact this has had and will continue to have. What will the likely consequences be for China given that it is my understanding that the source of the virus was Wuhan China?
- Benjamin_Dobell 7y agoWait... what? No consequences. It wasn't a man-made virus!
- divbzero 7y agoI think China has already been dealing with the consequences of robust lockdowns that, while slowing the spread of coronavirus dramatically and admirably, also place substantial strain on the society and economy.
- dntbnmpls 7y agoThe same consequences that africa got for ebola or the middle east got for MERS. Nothing. It's not their fault. It's a virus. It happens. People like you are so obvious. What do you think happened to the region that gave us HIV? Nothing because it's not their fault.
- slantyyz 7y agoAren't SARS and COVID suspected to be the result of viruses jumping species in wet markets that sell wildlife? If that is true, I'm not sure you can just say "it happens", as the wet market environments are man-made. [1] Vox : "Why new diseases keep appearing in China" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54 [2] Vox Explained: "The Next Pandemic" -- https://www.netflix.com/watch/81062202?trackId=13752289&tctx=0%2C3%2Cad81ab60-7b5f-458f-a116-1c1250e60946-115068166%2C%2C https://www.netflix.com/watch/81062202?trackId=13752289&tctx...