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I need to buy a new TV, and I'm desperately looking for a "dumb" one. I just need a HDMI input and that's it.

by kozak 7y ago

krisoft 7y ago
Isn't that what a computer screen is?
- edent 7y ago
  Sure, but where can you find a 130cm monitor?
  - cr3ative 7y ago
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/products/big-format-gaming-displays/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/products/big-format-gam...
  - AndrewThrowaway 7y ago
    I think they are called "commercial displays". You can see them showing ads in shops and etc.
    - benhurmarcel 7y ago
      They're much more expensive than a TV though.
  - imtringued 7y ago
    Just search for 50" monitors on amazon or whatever online marketplace you frequent.
- GuB-42 7y ago
  Sure, but computer monitors are typically much more expensive than TVs of the same size. Computer monitors are designed to be looked up close, which mean they are often at a higher resolution and higher quality. Furthermore, especially with gaming monitors, high refresh rates and low response times are important. A TV only needs 60Hz and response time is mostly irrelevant unless you are console gaming.
  - Jonnax 7y ago
    A premium smart TV can support 4k at 120Hz with also support for variable refresh rate. Computer monitors are either 1080p, 1440p or 4k in the majority of cases. If you're looking for a cheap dumb TV, there is no market. The majority of people want YouTube and Netflix built into their TV. If you want something with a niche use case, then you have to pay niche money.
cr3ative 7y ago
If you don't connect it to the internet, all TVs are dumb.
- nickthegreek 7y ago
  At least until TV manufacturers start having them try and connect to open wifi points or try and piggy back off of a connection thru HDMI ARC.
  - foobiekr 7y ago
    Or embed a $2 3g dongle.
    - kelnos 7y ago
      The real cost there is data usage, and just keeping the SIM live. Even with large volume discounts, that's not gonna be cheap. (Wireless carriers don't price machine uses cases the same way they do retail phone SIM cards.) And then there's obsolescence: you said 3G... how long before carriers have shut down their 3G networks, or at least have reduced coverage to the point where it's hard to get a 3G connection in most places? Granted, if the manufacturers only use that as a backup, since most customers probably will connect the TV to their wifi, maybe it won't cost that much.
      - danieldk 7y ago
        The real cost there is data usage, and just keeping the SIM live. Even with large volume discounts, that's not gonna be cheap. (Wireless carriers don't price machine uses cases the same way they do retail phone SIM cards.) I don't buy this. Here in the Netherlands, every house is fitted with a smart electricity/gas meter, that connects over cellular. The Kindle 3G has worldwide connectivity. If Samsung or Sony goes to a major carrier to get a low-data rate 3G or 4G connection to send viewing habits, etc., times a gazillion units, they will get it. Such analytics are worth a lot, so I guess the cost is easy to offset.
  - kelnos 7y ago
jedieaston 7y ago
https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=hospitality%20tv&searchscope=all&sr=1 https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=hospitality%20tv&searchscope... These are TVs with the smart stuff removed for use in enterprise/hotels that don't want it. Pick your favorite!
- huseyinkeles 7y ago
  > 403 Error: Access Forbidden > We’re sorry, but you don’t have access to this page. Could be because of GDPR :/
  - jaclaz 7y ago
    >Could be because of GDPR :/ I can get to that page from Italy, so no, it must be something else.
    - huseyinkeles 7y ago
      Interesting, the whole website gives me 403. I tried from the office IP, home IP and mobile. All the same. Looks like they banned the whole Netherlands at least :D

I need to buy a new TV, and I'm desperately looking for a "dumb" one. I just need a HDMI input and that's it.

by kozak 7y ago

I need to buy a new TV, and I'm desperately looking for a "dumb" one. I just need a HDMI input and that's it.

krisoft 7y ago

Isn't that what a computer screen is?

edent 7y ago
Sure, but where can you find a 130cm monitor?
- cr3ative 7y ago
  https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/products/big-format-gaming-displays/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/products/big-format-gam...
- AndrewThrowaway 7y ago
  I think they are called "commercial displays". You can see them showing ads in shops and etc.
  - benhurmarcel 7y ago
    They're much more expensive than a TV though.
- imtringued 7y ago
  Just search for 50" monitors on amazon or whatever online marketplace you frequent.
GuB-42 7y ago
Sure, but computer monitors are typically much more expensive than TVs of the same size. Computer monitors are designed to be looked up close, which mean they are often at a higher resolution and higher quality. Furthermore, especially with gaming monitors, high refresh rates and low response times are important. A TV only needs 60Hz and response time is mostly irrelevant unless you are console gaming.
- Jonnax 7y ago
  A premium smart TV can support 4k at 120Hz with also support for variable refresh rate. Computer monitors are either 1080p, 1440p or 4k in the majority of cases. If you're looking for a cheap dumb TV, there is no market. The majority of people want YouTube and Netflix built into their TV. If you want something with a niche use case, then you have to pay niche money.

cr3ative 7y ago

If you don't connect it to the internet, all TVs are dumb.

nickthegreek 7y ago
At least until TV manufacturers start having them try and connect to open wifi points or try and piggy back off of a connection thru HDMI ARC.
- foobiekr 7y ago
  Or embed a $2 3g dongle.
  - kelnos 7y ago
    The real cost there is data usage, and just keeping the SIM live. Even with large volume discounts, that's not gonna be cheap. (Wireless carriers don't price machine uses cases the same way they do retail phone SIM cards.) And then there's obsolescence: you said 3G... how long before carriers have shut down their 3G networks, or at least have reduced coverage to the point where it's hard to get a 3G connection in most places? Granted, if the manufacturers only use that as a backup, since most customers probably will connect the TV to their wifi, maybe it won't cost that much.
    - danieldk 7y ago
      The real cost there is data usage, and just keeping the SIM live. Even with large volume discounts, that's not gonna be cheap. (Wireless carriers don't price machine uses cases the same way they do retail phone SIM cards.) I don't buy this. Here in the Netherlands, every house is fitted with a smart electricity/gas meter, that connects over cellular. The Kindle 3G has worldwide connectivity. If Samsung or Sony goes to a major carrier to get a low-data rate 3G or 4G connection to send viewing habits, etc., times a gazillion units, they will get it. Such analytics are worth a lot, so I guess the cost is easy to offset.
- kelnos 7y ago

jedieaston 7y ago

https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=hospitality%20tv&searchscope=all&sr=1 https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=hospitality%20tv&searchscope... These are TVs with the smart stuff removed for use in enterprise/hotels that don't want it. Pick your favorite!

huseyinkeles 7y ago
> 403 Error: Access Forbidden > We’re sorry, but you don’t have access to this page. Could be because of GDPR :/
- jaclaz 7y ago
  >Could be because of GDPR :/ I can get to that page from Italy, so no, it must be something else.
  - huseyinkeles 7y ago
    Interesting, the whole website gives me 403. I tried from the office IP, home IP and mobile. All the same. Looks like they banned the whole Netherlands at least :D