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He has a subdomain on his site that he uses for it: https://live.drewdevault.com/ https://live.drewdevault.com/

by kick 7y ago

danShumway 7y ago
You're not the right person to ask about this, but if Drew is around I would love to hear high-level details about what how this setup works and what the average monthly cost is. I can see that it's open source[0], and I'm very tempted to copy it. I'm already in the midst of migrating all of my video hosting to peertube, but I don't have a solution I'm confident in for livestreaming other than Twitch -- especially because when in the rare instances where I do stream coding sessions they can go up to 5 or 6 hours, at which point archiving and storing that video starts to look a lot more costly. [0]: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/live.drewdevault.com/tree https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/live.drewdevault.com/tree
- ddevault 7y ago
  I don't use it very often. I just threw it up on a Linode with minimal effort so I could have a working live streaming setup. You'll note from the readme: >This is the website for my self-hosted livestreaming platform (aka bag of hacks dumped into a server). PeerTube is nice in theory but in practice it's been really really unreliable for me.
  - alpb 7y ago
    Why not simply stream to somewhere live Twitch/YouTube and have them serve the recording offline later on?
    - ddevault 7y ago
      I try to avoid proprietary services.
      - munificent 7y ago
        You know, YouTube is pretty easy. I bet someone could implement it in an afternoon and a dozen lines of shell script...
        traviscj 7y ago
        A weekend at most. WORST—-and I mean WORST—case, could crank out a clone during a hack week.
        csunbird 7y ago
        Is this a challenge?
      - squarefoot 7y ago
        Never tried yet for hosting content, however I've read good things about Lbry. https://lbry.com/faq https://lbry.com/faq
        ddevault 7y ago
        Ah yes, we needed another blockchain to solve this problem. Perfect.
        dredmorbius 7y ago
        The amusement here being that git itself is Merkel trees ;-) (And yes, I've seen, and boosted, your Mastodon tirade, and am ... apprehensive in commenting here.)
        solarkraft 7y ago
        Not many people know that these trees were invented by the German federal chancellor Angela Merkel. (they were not, this is a shitpost, they're actually called Merkle trees)
        7y ago
- kick 7y ago
  I'm definitely not the right person to ask, but: Archival/storage of video shouldn't be that costly. With 5400rpm drives (better for archival than more or less any other type of storage media, including faster hard drives), it looks like the going rate is about a United States cent per gigabyte. Two for 7200rpm drives from manufacturers that seem to produce the most reliable drives on the market, consumer-side. A setup that could survive through a reasonable amount of drive failure, then, seems to be relatively inexpensive, so long as you're not trying to archive your video In The Cloud®.* *Someone Else's Computer
  - oefrha 7y ago
    Storage is cheap. It’s the delivery that’s costly.
    - kick 7y ago
      Delivery being costly is a myth propagated by Big Cloud®. Any dollar store VPS that isn't DO will have more than enough for streaming video all day every day. That's irrelevant, though, given the person's question was about storage and archival.
      - viraptor 7y ago
        It all depends on the use-case/context. Hosting a single video with few concurrent views is cheaper to do on VPS. Hosting videos with short response time in any region, with high resiliency, etc. is likely cheaper to do on CDNs. It's not a myth. It's "general advice may not work for you".
        Const-me 7y ago
        > Hosting videos with short response time in any region Clouds are indeed selling that, but I think that's false advertisement. At least from here (western Balkans) it looks this way.
        7y ago

He has a subdomain on his site that he uses for it: https://live.drewdevault.com/ https://live.drewdevault.com/

by kick 7y ago

He has a subdomain on his site that he uses for it: https://live.drewdevault.com/ https://live.drewdevault.com/

You're not the right person to ask about this, but if Drew is around I would love to hear high-level details about what how this setup works and what the average monthly cost is. I can see that it's open source[0], and I'm very tempted to copy it. I'm already in the midst of migrating all of my video hosting to peertube, but I don't have a solution I'm confident in for livestreaming other than Twitch -- especially because when in the rare instances where I do stream coding sessions they can go up to 5 or 6 hours, at which point archiving and storing that video starts to look a lot more costly. [0]: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/live.drewdevault.com/tree https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/live.drewdevault.com/tree

ddevault 7y ago
I don't use it very often. I just threw it up on a Linode with minimal effort so I could have a working live streaming setup. You'll note from the readme: >This is the website for my self-hosted livestreaming platform (aka bag of hacks dumped into a server). PeerTube is nice in theory but in practice it's been really really unreliable for me.
- alpb 7y ago
  Why not simply stream to somewhere live Twitch/YouTube and have them serve the recording offline later on?
  - ddevault 7y ago
    I try to avoid proprietary services.
    - munificent 7y ago
      You know, YouTube is pretty easy. I bet someone could implement it in an afternoon and a dozen lines of shell script...
      - traviscj 7y ago
        A weekend at most. WORST—-and I mean WORST—case, could crank out a clone during a hack week.
      - csunbird 7y ago
        Is this a challenge?
    - squarefoot 7y ago
      Never tried yet for hosting content, however I've read good things about Lbry. https://lbry.com/faq https://lbry.com/faq
      - ddevault 7y ago
        Ah yes, we needed another blockchain to solve this problem. Perfect.
        dredmorbius 7y ago
        The amusement here being that git itself is Merkel trees ;-) (And yes, I've seen, and boosted, your Mastodon tirade, and am ... apprehensive in commenting here.)
        solarkraft 7y ago
        Not many people know that these trees were invented by the German federal chancellor Angela Merkel. (they were not, this is a shitpost, they're actually called Merkle trees)
        7y ago
kick 7y ago
I'm definitely not the right person to ask, but: Archival/storage of video shouldn't be that costly. With 5400rpm drives (better for archival than more or less any other type of storage media, including faster hard drives), it looks like the going rate is about a United States cent per gigabyte. Two for 7200rpm drives from manufacturers that seem to produce the most reliable drives on the market, consumer-side. A setup that could survive through a reasonable amount of drive failure, then, seems to be relatively inexpensive, so long as you're not trying to archive your video In The Cloud®.* *Someone Else's Computer
- oefrha 7y ago
  Storage is cheap. It’s the delivery that’s costly.
  - kick 7y ago
    Delivery being costly is a myth propagated by Big Cloud®. Any dollar store VPS that isn't DO will have more than enough for streaming video all day every day. That's irrelevant, though, given the person's question was about storage and archival.
    - viraptor 7y ago
      It all depends on the use-case/context. Hosting a single video with few concurrent views is cheaper to do on VPS. Hosting videos with short response time in any region, with high resiliency, etc. is likely cheaper to do on CDNs. It's not a myth. It's "general advice may not work for you".
      - Const-me 7y ago
        > Hosting videos with short response time in any region Clouds are indeed selling that, but I think that's false advertisement. At least from here (western Balkans) it looks this way.
        7y ago