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We Should Be Eating More Canned Fish?
- Simulacra 7y agoI’m very worried about heavy metals, plastics, and chemicals too much to eat any seafood.
- dcolkitt 7y agoThe balance of the evidence indicates that the health benefits of fish consumption, particularly omega-3 fats, far outweighs those concerns.
- thepete2 7y agoWalnuts apparently have more omega-3 content (by weight) than fish.
- fredophile 7y agoOmega-3 doesn't refer to just one thing. Most plant sources of omega-3 are ALA which your body needs to convert to EPA and DHA. Your body isn't very good at making DHA so it is useful to get it directly from your diet. Fish are a good source of DHA.
- hombre_fatal 7y agoFish get it from algae. You could go right to the source and eat algae as part of your standard supplementation.
- thepete2 7y agocutting out the middle fish
- James_Henry 7y agoI hate to be one of those people demanding sources, but I'm wondering where I can find someone who's carefully weighed the evidence. The article does mention that smaller fish often found canned are lower in the food chain and thus have less mercury, but I would think that you'd have to look carefully at each species, and the sourcing, and the packaging before you could really say the health benefits are worth it.
- victor106 7y agohttps://www.amazon.com/Omega-Principle-Seafood-Healthier-Planet-ebook/dp/B076NTB4FR https://www.amazon.com/Omega-Principle-Seafood-Healthier-Pla... The author goes into lot of detail. TLDR 1. Eat small fish like Sardines, Mackerel, Anchovies etc 2. Get your omega 3 index https://omegaquant.com/ https://omegaquant.com/ 3. Make sure your omega 3 to omega 6 is good
- clSTophEjUdRanu 7y agohttps://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fish/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fish/
- alexandercrohde 7y agoIt's not boolean. There's a lot of options -- salmon (I personally have salmon sushi at least twice a week), omega-3 supplements, a dozen other healthy foods.
- yokaze 7y agoMy understanding is, that while fish consumption is correlated with better health, the supposed effects of omega-3 fats in observational studies are not proven in controlled studies with omega 3 supplements (https://www.cochrane.org/news/new-cochrane-health-evidence-challenges-belief-omega-3-supplements-reduce-risk-heart-disease https://www.cochrane.org/news/new-cochrane-health-evidence-c...)
- troydavis 7y agoMany varieties of tinned fish are very low in mercury, often due to their short lifetimes or shallow depth: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2014/10/can-eating-the-wrong-fish-put-you-at-higher-risk-for-mercury-exposure/index.htm https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2014/10/can-eat... (For any readers who haven’t tried a great sardine, look for Matiz, La Gondola, any Portuguese brand, or in France, Rödel.)
- i386 7y agoOrtiz sardines is where it is at.
- bad_user 7y agoPeople get concerned about the toxicity of fish, yet the air they breathe in the polluted city they live it does far more harm than a food can ever do. Not to mention smokers, but the rates of smokers with health concerns about food has been going down, anecdotally speaking. Seafood is very healthy, the populations that eat a lot of seafood are very healthy, the stories about heavy metals or plastics are blown out of proportion and the toxicity claims is not supported by evidence. I'm actually far more concerned about the preservation of wild life, with wild fish populations (such as tuna) going down due to over-consumption. I actually seek farmed fish — the omega 3 content might be lower, but the benefits of omega 3 are probably overblown too. So there might actually be some benefits to the fearmongering, even if irrational ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- tmh88j 7y ago>People get concerned about the toxicity of fish, yet the air they breathe in the polluted city they live it does far more harm than a food can ever do. I could see this being a possibility for many Asian countries, but I'm skeptical that this would be true for the US and Europe. Do you have any sources?
- lowdose 7y agoOn windy.com they have several realtime graphics for CO2 pollution and it's cousins.
- tmh88j 7y agoMaybe I wasn't clear, but I was asking for a source regarding the claim that air pollution affects humans more than the food they consume (specifically based on location). That website is just some data of current air pollution.
- drukenemo 7y agoCO2 is not pollution no matter how many times this lie is perpetuated. CO2 is what we breathe out and it’s what plants breathe in.
- imagetic 7y agoWhile I completely agree. I think the author could have made a much stronger argument. And whenever I try canned fish from Europe, it's far better than the American brand.
- mc32 7y agoIn the US many brands are Portuguese or Italian, unless you’re talking strictly tuna, then yes, most are US brands.
- matsdb 7y agoIn Norway, sandwiches with a spread of mackerel in tomato sauce is a breakfast/lunch staple
- ifend 7y agoI recently discovered this and cannot get enough of it. I'm trying to find a good place to purchase it (at a reasonable price) in the USA though. Damn tasty!
- matsdb 7y agoI'm not sure what brands except King Oscar that sells abroad, but looks like they sell in Walmart atleast [1] [1] https://www.kingoscar.com/where-to-buy/ https://www.kingoscar.com/where-to-buy/
- ifend 7y agoThe one I've been eating is Stabbur-Makrell by Stabburet. It's Norwegian, and delicious!
- clSTophEjUdRanu 7y agoThat sounds amazing. I'll have to check that out.
- veddox 7y ago„The vast majority of tuna stocks are healthy and abundant“? I am highly skeptical of that claim. Does anybody have any up-to-date, global numbers?
- sriacha 7y agoAlso skeptical.
- alkonaut 7y agoCanned tuna is usually Skipjack, which is still considered sustainable in most places vs the rate of fishing. Many other species of Tuna are threatened. So it’s hard to talk about “Tuna” as being threatened or not threatened as it varies wildly. The statement “the vast majority of tuna stocks are healthy” I guess could mean anything. Are they healthy because the vast majority that are left now that we fished out a few species are Skipjack? It’s indeed a statement to be skeptical about. You can bend it to be trueish while at the same time saying “the vast majority of tuna species are threatened”. Glass half empty or half full.
- Tomte 7y agoFish always freaks me out, because I don't know how to handle it. Take oil sardines with the starry eyes. Am I supposed to eat the sardine whole, with head, eyes and tailfin? Am I supposed to bite the head off and spit it out? Cut it off? It's so basic and I feel like an idiot, but I really have no idea.
- globular-toast 7y agoThere are books and YouTube videos that explain how to prepare food. A couple of personal favourites are Mastering the Art of French Cooking by Julia Child et al, and the Roux Brothers BBC series (on YouTube). These things have to be learnt just like anything else.
- Igelau 7y agoSearch seems to indicate that Julia Child, like everyone else, takes it as a given that you already know which parts of the sardine can be eaten. Your condescension is noted but not very helpful. https://books.google.com/books?id=ukkVAwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=julia+child+french+cooking&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiWgZOs_8LnAhUWl3IEHSdnCEUQ6AEwAnoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=sardine&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=ukkVAwAAQBAJ&printsec=fron...
- yoz-y 7y agoA few years back I wrote this: https://yozy.net/2012/11/smelly-spread/ https://yozy.net/2012/11/smelly-spread/ and still do the same thing all the time. Just mix the sardines with butter and onions, and smash it all together with a fork. Oil, fins, heads...
- dragosmocrii 7y agoVery nice and concise article! Loved the "mix furiously" part ))
- kenneth 7y agoJust eat the whole thing and enjoy, it's delicious!
- blunte 7y agoNo, please don't. Commercial fishing is not good. Do some research to find the many reasons. Plastic is not something you want to eat, and fish have increasing amounts of plastic in them. Same goes for Mercury. Sardines (and probably anchovies) don't have much, but other larger fish do. Were it not for these problems, then I too would advocate good canned sardines for health. They have higher calcium per weight than any other food or drink. They have a good amount of protein, and of course they have the omega oils. But the current state of things is such that it would be wise to reduce consumption, not increase it.
- clSTophEjUdRanu 7y agohttps://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fish/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fish/
- anonu 7y ago> they calculated that if 100,000 people ate farmed salmon twice a week for 70 years, the extra PCB intake could potentially cause 24 extra deaths from cancer—but would prevent at least 7,000 deaths from heart disease Interesting tidbit from the article.
- ijpsud 7y ago> twice a week That's the important part. I was eating tuna it pretty much every day for about a year until I found out that it was dangerous. They don't even have warnings on the can. Tony Robbins fried his brain doing that[0]. Still just hoping that I didn't do any damage to myself. The fishing industry lobbies have sued the FDA and other health organisations around the world to prevent then from requiring warnings on the label, and to get them to change the maximum PPM levels: > However, the fishing industry sued FDA, arguing that the economic impacts of the standard were likely to be too severe. A court agreed, and FDA had to revise the Action Level, raising it to 1.0 ppm, the current level.[1] > Scientists from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimate that as many as 600,000 babies are born each year at risk of neurological and developmental problems because their mothers have high blood mercury levels from fish consumption.[2] [0] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-there-toxic-heavy-metals-in-your-food_b_57bdd3f8e4b0ae01386a5824 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-there-toxic-heavy-metals-... [1] http://mercuryfactsandfish.org/mercury-facts/the-fda-action-level/ http://mercuryfactsandfish.org/mercury-facts/the-fda-action-... [2] https://e360.yale.edu/features/a_call_for_tougher_standards_on_mercury_levels_in_fish https://e360.yale.edu/features/a_call_for_tougher_standards_...
- jriot 7y agoAs a Cajun, it amuses me to read the comments. We'll boil up some crawfish, break them in half, eat the meat, suck the head, chuck it, do it again.
- seanalltogether 7y agoAs a kid my Dad introduced us to sardines while hiking. Friends always thought my brother and I were crazy when cracking open a can at the summit of whatever peak we just climbed, until they try one and realize that nothing else they have packed for their own lunch will now satisfy their newfound craving for oily fish. I don't know why, but it works.
- fortran77 7y agoAnd fish in jars, too, like herring and sprats! I eat many of these each week.
- gweinberg 7y agoDid I miss something or was his only argument why we should eat it is that he likes it? He says its not that bad for you, but it's not really good for you, it's not that expensive, although it's far from cheap. it's not that gross eating bones and eyeballs and shit after you get used to it, but it is until then. None of these at all imply we should eat it.
- joshu 7y agoif you are high in triglycerides, no, you should not be eating fish packed in oil.
- wink 7y agohealthy or not, how sustainable is the can itself? Let's assume you put it to recycling, better or worse than plastic? Also mostly per serving, not per gram. You can buy fish and meat without packaging that weighs as much as a sardine can.