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Semi-OT rant: can we stop these "for humans" qualifiers? AFAIK it started with requests and has since grown out of control: https://github.com/search?q=%22for+h

by oefrha 7y ago

Semi-OT rant: can we stop these "for humans" qualifiers? AFAIK it started with requests and has since grown out of control: https://github.com/search?q=%22for+humans%22 https://github.com/search?q=%22for+humans%22 (3234 repos at the moment) It hardly means anything any more and creators of alternatives that these "for humans" projects are supposed to replace probably won't be too happy with the implication that their work is somehow not for humans. Now, on topic: why link to a blog post rather than the actual site? https://postgresqlco.nf/en/doc/param/ https://postgresqlco.nf/en/doc/param/ Maybe the blog post is linked because you want to highlight the not-yet-released configurator? > Right now we are working hard on a fully featured application service where you can have a graphical configuration interface (or UI) with Drag & Drop of your postgresql.conf files with automatic validation, and a REST API where you can store and share your custom postgresql.conf configuration files. You will also be able to download your configurations in several formats, like the native postgresql.conf, YAML or JSON. Sounds great but <s>all we get for now is a screenshot</s> (sorry, the screenshot is for a new feature available now) so it's kind of a bummer...

sillysofties 7y ago
Agreed. And lets kill this "built with love in <City>" crap too..
- zojirushibottle 7y ago
  hehe, i wonder if people really believe in these words. i love coding but boy i do get so much frustration from it sometimes!
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- sergiomattei 7y ago
  Why? It's a way of displaying affection to where you are. It brings people together and shows from where the app was made.
  - sillysofties 7y ago
    How does it bring people together? What a load of crap.
    - sergiomattei 7y ago
      Ever wondered "gee, what's made in insert place here?" This answers that question. I've discovered many local startups by just browsing the web than I would have otherwise.
      - sillysofties 7y ago
        I guess something like "Built by Microsoft, Seattle" or "Designed in Calfornia by Apple" wouldn't provide the same answer... /s But still, back on point, how does this "Made with love in <X>" bring people together as you claim previously?
ahachete 7y ago
> Semi-OT rant: can we stop these "for humans" qualifiers? It wasn't really intentional, and I actually didn't even know where or when this originated. It just sounded "right" (non native English speaker here). There are several two reasons why this felt right: * Tuning Postgres well is hard. Not everybody, not every "human" can easily do it. * There are several efforts (mostly from Academia) to have non humans (A.I.) tune databases automatically (e.g. Andy Pavlo's efforts). > why link to a blog post rather than the actual site? Because the blog post contains an explanation of what the web site is, how you can use it and provide much more context than the direct parameters page. About the new functionality, it is something in the works and early disclosure is good for potential feedback. And yes, the screenshot is what you can get today, so feel free to enjoy it! Disclaimer: I work @OnGres.
tomc1985 7y ago
Yeah, I'm a human and I don't mind configuration files Some of these trends are just stupid (I'm so glad the 'made with love' shit has died down)
- oefrha 7y ago
  > I'm so glad the 'made with love' shit has died down Did it though? I still add a "Built with heart" badge to the README of every new project. /s https://forthebadge.com/images/badges/built-with-love.svg https://forthebadge.com/images/badges/built-with-love.svg
- Operyl 7y ago
  I especially love my projects made out of pure hatred for the status-quo, though!
jmull 7y ago
Frankly, I'd prioritize getting rid of off topics rants on minor stylistic decisions ;)
PandaWhisperer 7y ago
IDK, I don't mind them at all. Yeah, of course, all software is written for humans in some sense, but no single piece of software is ever going to be "the one" that satisfies every single person out there. Some people like to keep it simple, others like to geek out on esoteric settings and full configurability. Personally I like when a software is upfront about who it's for, instead of pretending to cater to everyone's taste. Even Windows comes in several flavors because one size doesn't fit all.

by oefrha 7y ago

sillysofties 7y ago

Agreed. And lets kill this "built with love in <City>" crap too..

zojirushibottle 7y ago
hehe, i wonder if people really believe in these words. i love coding but boy i do get so much frustration from it sometimes!
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sergiomattei 7y ago
Why? It's a way of displaying affection to where you are. It brings people together and shows from where the app was made.
- sillysofties 7y ago
  How does it bring people together? What a load of crap.
  - sergiomattei 7y ago
    Ever wondered "gee, what's made in insert place here?" This answers that question. I've discovered many local startups by just browsing the web than I would have otherwise.
    - sillysofties 7y ago
      I guess something like "Built by Microsoft, Seattle" or "Designed in Calfornia by Apple" wouldn't provide the same answer... /s But still, back on point, how does this "Made with love in <X>" bring people together as you claim previously?

ahachete 7y ago

> Semi-OT rant: can we stop these "for humans" qualifiers? It wasn't really intentional, and I actually didn't even know where or when this originated. It just sounded "right" (non native English speaker here). There are several two reasons why this felt right: * Tuning Postgres well is hard. Not everybody, not every "human" can easily do it. * There are several efforts (mostly from Academia) to have non humans (A.I.) tune databases automatically (e.g. Andy Pavlo's efforts). > why link to a blog post rather than the actual site? Because the blog post contains an explanation of what the web site is, how you can use it and provide much more context than the direct parameters page. About the new functionality, it is something in the works and early disclosure is good for potential feedback. And yes, the screenshot is what you can get today, so feel free to enjoy it! Disclaimer: I work @OnGres.

tomc1985 7y ago

Yeah, I'm a human and I don't mind configuration files Some of these trends are just stupid (I'm so glad the 'made with love' shit has died down)

oefrha 7y ago
> I'm so glad the 'made with love' shit has died down Did it though? I still add a "Built with heart" badge to the README of every new project. /s https://forthebadge.com/images/badges/built-with-love.svg https://forthebadge.com/images/badges/built-with-love.svg
Operyl 7y ago
I especially love my projects made out of pure hatred for the status-quo, though!

jmull 7y ago

Frankly, I'd prioritize getting rid of off topics rants on minor stylistic decisions ;)

PandaWhisperer 7y ago

IDK, I don't mind them at all. Yeah, of course, all software is written for humans in some sense, but no single piece of software is ever going to be "the one" that satisfies every single person out there. Some people like to keep it simple, others like to geek out on esoteric settings and full configurability. Personally I like when a software is upfront about who it's for, instead of pretending to cater to everyone's taste. Even Windows comes in several flavors because one size doesn't fit all.