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This doesn't even make sense. The advanced safety feature is the FCA equivalent of ONSTAR. You want to buy a car that has a safety feature based on them track

by tw04 7y ago

This doesn't even make sense. The advanced safety feature is the FCA equivalent of ONSTAR. You want to buy a car that has a safety feature based on them tracking your vehicle, but you simultaneously want them to guarantee you they won't track your vehicle?? If you don't want to be tracked, don't buy a truck with the advanced safety feature, pretty simple...

chris11 7y ago
Sure some safety features, like sending out a request for help when an accident occurs, might require tracking. But other systems like adaptive cruise control or active lane keep assist shouldn't require tracking. There needs to be a good reason for disabling tracking to disable a safety feature.
- Animats 7y ago
  The "advanced safety" option is auto-braking and lane departure warning. All onboard sensors. That doesn't require phoning home. It's supposedly possible to turn off tracking. There's a "privacy opt out". That means you no longer get the "Monthly Vehicle Report" emailed to you.[1] The question is whether it really means that communications with the mothership stops. Companies lying about opt-out is common.[2][3] [1] https://www.mopar.com/en-us/my-vehicle/vehicle-health-report/details.html https://www.mopar.com/en-us/my-vehicle/vehicle-health-report... [2] https://www.hoganlovells.com/en/blogs/hldataprotection/ftc-optout-should-mean-optout https://www.hoganlovells.com/en/blogs/hldataprotection/ftc-o... [3] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7804121/Facebook-says-locate-users-opt-tracking.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7804121/Face...
- tropo 7y ago
  None of that requires tracking when the feature isn't in use. It could be built so that the air bag deployment is what enables the cellular connection to operate. Until the air bags deploy, the radio doesn't get any electrical power. I'd love a vehicle that is completely radio silent, incapable of transmitting or receiving, until there is a crash.
Dylan16807 7y ago
What's so unreasonable about wanting to disable a feature? Having to buy a completely different product is a big hassle.
hvidgaard 7y ago
The safety feature does not need to be on at all times. If it's anything like what Ford has, then it will only be activated when the car detects a crash. If they would make it such that it only connects when it has to, then it would be a reasonable compromise.

by tw04 7y ago

chris11 7y ago

Sure some safety features, like sending out a request for help when an accident occurs, might require tracking. But other systems like adaptive cruise control or active lane keep assist shouldn't require tracking. There needs to be a good reason for disabling tracking to disable a safety feature.

Animats 7y ago
The "advanced safety" option is auto-braking and lane departure warning. All onboard sensors. That doesn't require phoning home. It's supposedly possible to turn off tracking. There's a "privacy opt out". That means you no longer get the "Monthly Vehicle Report" emailed to you.[1] The question is whether it really means that communications with the mothership stops. Companies lying about opt-out is common.[2][3] [1] https://www.mopar.com/en-us/my-vehicle/vehicle-health-report/details.html https://www.mopar.com/en-us/my-vehicle/vehicle-health-report... [2] https://www.hoganlovells.com/en/blogs/hldataprotection/ftc-optout-should-mean-optout https://www.hoganlovells.com/en/blogs/hldataprotection/ftc-o... [3] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7804121/Facebook-says-locate-users-opt-tracking.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7804121/Face...
tropo 7y ago
None of that requires tracking when the feature isn't in use. It could be built so that the air bag deployment is what enables the cellular connection to operate. Until the air bags deploy, the radio doesn't get any electrical power. I'd love a vehicle that is completely radio silent, incapable of transmitting or receiving, until there is a crash.

Dylan16807 7y ago

What's so unreasonable about wanting to disable a feature? Having to buy a completely different product is a big hassle.

hvidgaard 7y ago

The safety feature does not need to be on at all times. If it's anything like what Ford has, then it will only be activated when the car detects a crash. If they would make it such that it only connects when it has to, then it would be a reasonable compromise.