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I'd like to share this post[0]: The last two weeks I made it a goal to run 5km every morning. A few times, particularly today, I felt lazy and run down, but I

• agumonkey 7y ago
  I did this last summer. Simply walking early to get some bread. It quickly turned into an automatic alarm clock, gave me a good 30 min of "warm up" walking that also let my brain coast while watching the woods. You come back both refreshed and all warmed up blood wise. It was very very beneficial altogether. If it wasn't for the wrong job I took next and winter killing the morning sun I'd still be doing this. Actually now that spring is here, I feel the need. The need for .. walk.
• bengale 7y ago
  This is a good reason to break your tasks up into smaller chunks too. One more thing checked of the list is easier when its something like "add a button" and not "implement entire feature".
• tw1010 7y ago
  I used to be sceptical that the concept of overtraining was a thing, but it definitely is. Just saying that running every day consistently might not necessarily be good for you in the long run. Listen to your body.
  • danielbln 7y ago
    Agreed, "listen to your body." is really important advice. I've been running every day without exception for 1252 days now, and there have been really slow, really short (2k) runs whenever I felt my body needed a bit more leeway for recovery. It takes some practice and it's not for everyone, but daily/streak running can be transformative (and was/is for me).
    • thorin 7y ago
      When people started talking about running every day, the first thing that came to mind was Ron Hill: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2017/jan/31/ron-hill-running-19032-days-in-a-row-maybe-its-time-for-a-day-off https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/20...
  • jakobegger 7y ago
    A 5km run is probably between 30-45min activity. If you run at a medium pace, I don't think that would be an issue. If run as fast as you can, I agree that you should take breaks.
    • yibg 7y ago
      Depends on what your body is telling you. If your kneed are killing you half way through you might want to stop and take a break for a few days.
      • lvturner 7y ago
        Or change shoes - my knees constantly hurt whenever I ran until I switched to more barefoot style shoes. Really transformed running for me. It went from something I was terrible at, which hurt and I hated, to something I merely hated.
• PMalhotra 7y ago
  Very correct! I love the thought. We have to replace the lazy tasks into the active ones by telling our brain just "one more time". And I have realized that whenever I tell myself to do something which requires getting out of bed and be active, the thought is itself exhausting. But ones you do that you feel amazing and your day just go right! You just have to push yourself for that one time again and again.
• ak39 7y ago
  This indeed works. It is to in my experience the only way out of the mess.
• kitd 7y ago
  Agreed. I have found myself paralysed by procrastination at times (normally when whatever project I'm currently on has lost its initial zing). My strategy has become: Just do one task today, that's all. Doesn't matter how small. Leave the office feeling like you've done something productive. My thought process then becomes, OK, let's do my one task early then I can browse Reddit/HN/wherever. And of course, what happens is that that one task gives the ball its initial push, and becomes 2 tasks, or 3, or more. It doesn't always work, but it helps take the expectations and guilt off yourself, and gives you space to breathe.
  • notkaiho 7y ago
    It doesn't always work, but at least you've done the one task. That's one thing you can tick off the to-do list, regardless of how productive your day has been otherwise. As a lifelong realist (= pessimist) this is one of those things I struggle with too.
  • agumonkey 7y ago
    I toyed with this feeling. Not to repeat the dopamine theory we see everywhere.. but it feels that most of the web really ends up in the low hanging easy pleasure of our brain, and any moment of struggle will tickle that reflex. And when you ignore/fight it for a second... You (at least I) can sense blood pressure change in my brain and then the thinking side of my head goes back into rhythm again. Thinking is a pleasure too, but it's requires a bit of patience.
    • bemmu 7y ago
      Can relate to that ”moment of struggle”. Thinking about stopping the use of any dev tools that don’t have instant feedback, as having to wait a few seconds for something (currently deploying to google app engine mostly) makes me instantly alt-tab to reddit.
      • agumonkey 7y ago
        A feeling I know far too well. Anxiety I suppose. It also works for food crave btw..
• kekebo 7y ago
  This HN post expressed a similar strategy in a bit more detail, based on the 'Tiny Habits' approach by Stanford researcher BJ Fogg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21920556 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21920556
• Sean1708 7y ago
  This is a technique often employed to help people suffering from anxiety, you can always break something down into smaller tasks and eventually you'll get to a point where the task feels doable.
  • BigJ1211 7y ago
    Also basically programming in a nutshell.
  • AstralStorm 7y ago
    Doable does not mean fun or worth doing. (There are other effective ways to exercise and keep healthy than running. Find one that you find fun.)
    • Sean1708 7y ago
      But equally something being fun or worth doing doesn't mean you won't procrastinate doing it. Cleaning the house, for example, is definitely worth doing but many people procrastinate doing it, and it's actually a really good time to apply this technique: You don't have to clean the whole house, you can just clean one room. You don't have to clean an entire room, you can just clean a bookcase. You don't have to clean the entire bookcase, you can just clean one shelf. You don't have to clean the entire shelf, you can just put one thing back in it's place. You don't even have to put it back, just go over and pick it up. ... You can keep on going if none of those seem doable, right down to something like wiggling your big toe, but most people would probably at the very least find putting a single thing back doable. And I've used an example of something that is worth doing but most people don't find fun, but there are plenty of examples of things that are both fun and worth doing that people still procrastinate (probably mostly occurs in mental health sufferers, but that was the entire point of my original comment).
• itchynosedev 7y ago
  I damaged my shin bones because I was running too much too soon and currently taking 2 months break. Side note, I used to run 20k every week, then stopped. Be careful of the problem on the opposite side of the spectrum: your body might not be able to keep up with your motivation.
  • theironlily 7y ago
    I think this could do more with your running form and listening to your body than your will that kept you going. It might be worth checking out your form with a running coach. Either way, wishing you a speedy recovery.
    • JshWright 7y ago
      You can absolutely injure yourself by running too much, even with perfect form, and before you would notice anything is wrong while "listening to your body".
      • 0xcde4c3db 7y ago
        Yeah, people say "listen to your body" like this is simply a settled issue and all you have to do is make a decision to be more responsible. Researchers have barely even begun to properly unpack variations in interoception or RSI susceptibility, let alone the interactions between them.
    • grogenaut 7y ago
      I think you missed the point. Regardless of if their form was good or bad they ran through the pain. Shin splints and pantar faciticus are really bad to do that with as the recovery takes forever and you just can't do anything during it related to that area. I think your getting downvoted as you answered x when they were discussing y.
  • alexfoo 7y ago
    Couch to 5k (a.k.a. C25K) is a popular way to build up slowly and steadily. Once you're up to running 5k three times a week (which is roughly where the plan leaves you) you can limit both volume and max distance increases to 10% per week. I used to run 5-6 times a week with a usual volume of 50k/week so adding in another 1-2 gentle 5k recovery jogs to do a minimum of 5k every day wouldn't be difficult at all. But that's an entirely different prospect to just going out and trying to run 5k every day (although some people do exactly this and get away with it) with minimal existing running fitness or conditioning.
• laurieg 7y ago
  I like the idea and I'm glad it works for some people but I tried it and often I would get out the door with all my running gear on and then turn back around and give up. Something about thinking about it like this made it easier to give up.
  • sandos 7y ago
    I recently started mountainbiking, and I often excert myself way too much to the point of having to get off the bike and just resting. After watching the tedx talk "How "normal people" can train like the worlds best endurance athletes" I made it a thing to go out on the bike and _be slow_. Just go as slow as possible up the hills instead of almost collapsing. Now I feel like going out almost all the time instead of thinking "ooh, wow I was sooo tired the last time I was on the trail!". Made it much much easier to keep a routine of getting out regularly. Also my pace is much more even, and actually not much slower in total on my "slow" runs, since I never have to stop and rest.
    • pritovido 7y ago
      Yeah, people forget that we are animals too. We get as conditioned as Pavlov dogs. If every time you get out mountainbiking you suffer, you create an anchor mountainbiking = suffering. if you do it a lot, it gets reinforced a lot, and your body subcounciously will oppose it.
      • kortex 7y ago
        Learned helplessness is a particularly insidious form of this. What's fascinating is that in the studies, some animals never get it, they just keep fighting it. I wonder if that trait can be tapped in to, I doubt it' an all-or-nothing parameter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
      • MockObject 7y ago
        This is why I advise gym newbies to quit and go home while they're feeling pumped, and not to stay so long that they feel exhausted and cranky. It's more important to create the positive subconscious association with the gym.
• Aeolun 7y ago
  Just one more line of code always leads to me leaving work at 20:30 :/
  • tripzilch 7y ago
    If you can pull it off and restrain yourself, there is this trick of leaving one easy bug (or task) open, to get a nice start of the next day. You could start looking out for that task or bug half an hour before quits, maybe?
• s_gourichon 7y ago
  There is a company dedicated to tricking (voluntary and conscious) people from procrastination to actual sport, see https://www.squadeasy.com/ https://www.squadeasy.com/ The main idea is to leverage the brain's sensitivity to cooperative team goals or competitive goals, plus some gamification. And it works! Disclaimer: the main founder is my brother, I was involved in the very first steps of the project, and I'm currently on a freelance mission with the company. And the team is looking for a freelance or a permanent Typescript coder in Paris.
  • Uberphallus 7y ago
    Then tell your brother that they need to work on cheaters because my company uses Squadeasy and every year it's just a disgraceful experience. I know it's tough, especially when a giant like Strava that gamifies the hell out of sport barely does anything, but for the sake of giving an example, a cheater from my company basically took a tcx from someones marathon and uploaded every other day with shifted timestamps. I know it because they used Strava and with summit I saw the gpx from their workouts and the lat/long data was always identical. Also from averaging like 10k a week, he shot up to 200k, magically. At least I managed to get some people's points revoked because they tagged each other on Strava for every workout even if only one/two of them were actually working out. Now if I couldn't stalk on them on Strava there's absolutely no transparency on Squadeasy and I wouldn't have been able to point anything out to the team. These guys for sure are setting their profile private next year to prevent people from calling them out (since they did mid competition last year, actually). > Typescript So frontend, it certainly needs work too. If there's any work foreseen in backend, especially crushing cheaters, let me know.
    • s_gourichon 7y ago
      Thanks for reporting. Yes, detecting cheat is one of those numerous cat-and-mouse games. Whatever you do to detect, will deter more cheaters yet with diminishing returns. Squadeasy already deals with a number of scenarios, though not exactly this one. Thank you for your concise yet insightful report. I keep these ideas: cheating with multiple uploads of time-shifted TCX, transparency in third party trackers helped. I just opened an issue in the internal tracking system with your text and a few lines. The team will notice it tomorrow morning (it's 10:30pm here in Paris), yet we have quite a backlog already so don't hold your breath. To answer your last sentence and Typescript, the freelancer or new hire will be working on both front (user profile web-app) and back (bugfix, toolset migration, API evolution). Any contact welcome.
• yodsanklai 7y ago
  Sometimes I have a really hard time to start working on some tasks and I think it is linked to anxiety and stress, not mere laziness. As long as there are no big expectations (like when exercising), I have usually no procrastination issues.
  • Iv 7y ago
    On my last contract, working with very competent people, I got struck with one of the biggest procrastination wave I ever experienced. Thanks to a bit of introspection and awesome support from the team, I Realized this was just anxiety due to the imposter syndrome. Realizing that really helped.
  • Scarblac 7y ago
    Sometimes I'm kicking myself that I should really start work on this now, and it doesn't work, and I get more and more anxious. Upon reflection (sometimes I get to that point sooner, sometimes later) the problem is usually that the task is too vaguely defined to start working on it.
    • Tyr42 7y ago
      Yes! Exactly! I had a issue that I wasn't sure how to start, and didn't understand too well, and it was killing my productivity. I ended up just doing something, anything, even if it's wrong. Then I could correct it and do it properly. But sitting there fretting about it being hard and vague wasn't making any progress
    • bloopernova 7y ago
      Very apropos for me as I went to the doctor yesterday for increased anxiety about getting stuff done. I was promoted to a team lead position in Autumn of 2019. Things went well, if hectic and stressful, for the first couple of months. But the slower period in December really did a number on my motivation and focus, and my anxiety kicked in big time. Now I have a huge problem doing actual work, and so often get distracted into spending hours on technical, interesting tasks that aren't work related. It doesn't help that I have a million different interesting projects that I'd like to mess around with. And the work to-do list gets longer, and longer. And my anxiety gets worse and worse. I hope you find a solution to your issues. Good luck!
• nyxtom 7y ago
  Just waking up at the same time every day and kickstarting yourself (practically no matter what time you end up going to bed) seems to work absolute wonders.
  • matwood 7y ago
    This. And, for most people the bed time naturally fixes itself.
• ekianjo 7y ago
  > A few times, particularly today, I felt lazy and run down, but I got out of bed anyway and told myself that I'll at least walk This is also used with people who suffer from some kind of limb paralysis. You first start to tell them to wiggle the extremity of their finger (or toe). Then part of the of the finger. Then the whole finger. And so on. Basically the concept is the make every single effort leading to the end result as effortless and frictionless as possible.
• digitalsushi 7y ago
  I wish I had this written down somewhere, but I don't; perhaps it's well known enough that someone else can correct my mediocre paraphrasing: A Marine once told a civilian that everyone is programmed to believe their 80% remaining is their 0% remaining, and the courageous work of realizing that limitation is what unlocks the extreme feats that someone so well physically and mentally conditioned can undergo. I'm not military, don't know anyone military, and have no particular leanings, but I have always been absolutely invigorated by the apparent, quiet force that service members project. It's inspirational even devoid of agenda.
  • secfirstmd 7y ago
    It's primarily because in the military you get used to the ideas that you are in big trouble if you are not on time and also that you cannot fail (failure may mean death). That plus the quiet confidence you gain in yourself and others helps add some of that extra sauce.
  • matwood 7y ago
    In general people have way more capacity than they believe. Our worlds are built around immediate, short term gratification. I find that doing something everyday that's uncomfortable helps me stay out of the short term gratification trap. Getting up early when the alarm goes off, exercising, intermittent fasting, BJJ, are all things that at times are hard and uncomfortable, but they are a constant reminder of the capacity that we as humans have to excel.
    • tayo42 7y ago
      If getting up early means not getting a full night of sleep isn't that unhealthy? Not sure that should be encouraged
      • philwelch 7y ago
        You just end up getting tired and going to bed early that night. If you can make yourself do it, it’s a lot more effective to fix sleep schedules by pulling instead of pushing.
• spodek 7y ago
  People ask me why I take cold showers regularly, post to my blog daily, and never miss my burpee-based twice-daily calisthenics over more than a decade (approaching 150,000 cumulative burpees). Among many reasons, developing the skill to do what I said I would is tremendously valuable. Without these habits, I lacked discipline and thought to avoid tricks, which I thought of as short-term cheats. The habits developed discipline in me and revealed that developing tricks is the way to make habits work. I have no doubt that the most accomplished people use tricks to do their most valuable activities -- athletes, politicians, business leaders, whatever.
  • charlieflowers 7y ago
    Interesting. Can you elaborate? What kind of tricks?
    • sjg007 7y ago
      I think his trick is to do what ever he said he would do. So it sounds like holding himself accountable.
    • spodek 7y ago
      Things like if I want to run but am feeling lazy, I put on my running shoes and clothes, which means I'll eventually run. To put on the shoes is trivial, but it works to get me on a run, however long. Before I lift weights, I mop the floor since some of my exercises put me on the ground. Mopping is easy and makes lifting automatic. For some reason, once I mop, I automatically transition to lifting. Starting my burpees took years of experimenting on what would avoid my standing there intending to start, but not starting. Counting down or up didn't work. What worked was committing to starting on the next breath. Now I pace all my calisthenics by breath. These are examples of little things I found that if I do them, I do the big things. As far as I can tell, the way to find tricks that work is to keep doing the activity until a trick that works emerges.
      • AstralStorm 7y ago
        The short form of the trick is to fool yourself you've sunk costs enough to not stop. It is still self deception.
• Valakas_ 7y ago
  For me that doesn't work because then I learn that "yeah you say just walking but we both know it will end up in running." What works instead is I promise I will walk. And then I actually only walk even if I feel like running. That way you will trust yourself. If I say "ok i go to the gym 30 mins. just for a quick training." Then even if I'm in the flow at minute 30, I stop and go home. Next time I remember that and I know that if I say 30 it will be 30 and not more, that creates a trust in yourself that you're not trying to trick yourself into doing something you don't want to.
  • bipson 7y ago
    Huh? You have a weird "relationship" with yourself. I never did not trust myself anymore if I did more reps than I "promised" myself before. Would a child ever grow distrust against her parents if she changes her mind and wants to do more dishes than initially asked for and they allow her to do it?
    • bogdanoff_2 7y ago
      If it were the parent that said "now that you're at it, finish washing the rest of the dishes," then yes, the child would grow distrustful. So the trick I guess is managing which part of your inner monologue is the child and which is the parent. I've been experimenting with telling myself "now that I'm at the gym, I'm really enjoying it, I'm really grateful that you dragged me out."
  • maroonblazer 7y ago
    I guess I'm in the middle. Sometimes "just walking" is actually just walking. Sometimes it turns into running. I have no expectations about where the initial push eventually leads, which makes it easier to take that initial push. I prefer this approach as it ultimately results in a greater output than forcing myself to stop at some prior agreed point I made with myself but would now prefer to renegotiate.
  • Ajef 7y ago
    This approach is interesting to me as it would have not crossed my mind. I view goals I set myself as a minimum I of what I want to do. Doing more, because I feel like it, is a bonus that I think adds to the feeling of accomplishment. I guess the main difference is that I actually want to do these things and just have to overcome the hurdle of starting while you describe them as "doing something you don't want to".
• kamaal 7y ago
  Looks like most of use discover this rule one way or the other. I had a simple rule, where I would try not to give up for the smallest period of time I could hold on to a thing. Often that is like the next 5 minutes. Like I just tell myself, we are not trying to do this the whole year or even years. Just the next 1 hour, and then tomorrow we will try again.
• heinrichhartman 7y ago
  In 2014, I ran 5km every morning. 356 days. I hated every single one of these runs. I did get better at it, but I did not end up enjoying it. Certainly was never "feeling amazing". Eventually dropped the habbit. Now spending more time in the Gym and on the Bike.
  • cujo 7y ago
    I think there's a big difference between pushing through occasional lulls, and never wanting to do something ever. You clearly fell into the latter camp.
  • goobynight 7y ago
    I'll go ahead and fire off a recommendation to find a muay thai gym that has dedicated conditioning classes and some cool people. I wish I would have discovered it 10 years earlier when I started running cross country. Running, for me, was the Runescape of sports. Very grindy, with very little room for me to use my mind.
  • tripzilch 7y ago
    First, I'm not saying this would've helped you (I don't know), it's just a story and perhaps someone who is like me gets inspiration from it :) If I hadn't created three excellent mix tapes (that I still use to this day!) when I started running 10y ago, I might have ended up in your boat. I didn't care much for the running, but having a burn out meant I shouldn't be on the computer as much, and I didn't know what to do with the time. In the beginning I was having fun with how far into the mix I could get before running out of breath (I didn't sprint or anything, just no physical condition to speak of), and adding to the mix as I got further. At some point I decided perhaps I needed another mix with alternating running and walking parts[0]. I adjusted the BPM to my natural running gait. Added a little intro for when I leave the house to when I'm on the street. Everything was chosen with the idea that I wouldn't get bored during running, so it was a sequence of the "best", most uplifting, powerful parts of each track, each lasting about a minute (or 128 beats maybe). Between runs I kept optimizing the mixes for a while, improving the splice points and crossovers etc. Unfortunately I lost the original Ableton project files to a fire. Thankfully I had shared the mixes to friends, who could at least provide me with the mp3 renders. One day I'm going to add a fourth mix :) But I don't use pirated software any more, and not being a professional musician I can't really justify the cost of buying Ableton (or Bitwig, which at least runs on Linux). Unfortunately I've found no other free (or cheap) software that comes close to the ease with which you can simply splice and beat-match audio clips. Or just navigating and zooming a large audio file. Audacity is there when you really need something done, but it's hardly a smooth workflow. [0] it's as if psytrance and psydub were made for this, one is exactly half the BPM of the other!
• jonpurdy 7y ago
  This helps me get to the gym every morning at 6am. I go every morning, even if I don't plan on working out and just stretching. The simple 8 minute walk to the gym is the main blocker, so once this step is done it's easy to start working out anyway.
• rbongers 7y ago
  This is one of the strategies covered in the book "Power of Habit". Highly recommend that book.
• aj7 7y ago
  Sometimes when you feel the worst when starting, your performance is best. And professional athletes have documented the reverse, ca. a fresh pitcher getting knocked out in the 1st.
• lazyjones 7y ago
  Fitness routines and work are not the same thing. The former is IMHO pretty much a pointless waste of time (nothing bad will happen if you skip one day) and work usually just needs to be done eventually or there are serious consequences. The former thus needs self deception, while the latter just requires realization/visualization of its necessity and of the dire consequences.
  • blaser-waffle 7y ago
    > Fitness routines and work are not the same thing. The former is IMHO pretty much a pointless waste of time > lazyjones Ya'll gonna take fitness advice from the lazy guy?
    • lazyjones 7y ago
      Wow, that's some low effort post... I'm not lazy and I exercise when I need to wait/kill time or when I feel like it (e.g. I run instead of walking somewhere), I don't wastefully allocate extra time for it.
  • dfsegoat 7y ago
    Your argument is a bit contradictory: I can skip one day of work just like I can skip 1 workout ("nothing bad will happen"). However, I am pretty sure there are dire/severe consequences to not maintaining your physical health over time [1], just like there are if you do not perform at work. 1 - https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/about-physical-activity/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/about-physical-activity...
    • lazyjones 7y ago
      If nothing happens when you skip one day of work, perhaps you should work less or be fired. In important jobs, not working stalls processes and sometimes even endangers lives.
      • dfsegoat 7y ago
• cirgue 7y ago
  I have never in my life regretted working out, but I regularly regret not working out. It is so weird to me that, despite hundreds of trials of this dynamic, by brain still hasn't totally internalized this lesson and I end up having to tell myself "dog it if you want to, just show up", then proceed to have a great time.
  • closeparen 7y ago
    I regret running all the time. There are wild swings in the difficulty of doing the same run depending on weather, hours of sleep, time of day, what I’ve eaten, and apparently just random chance. Digestive system tends to be unhappy early in the morning, and the times I ignored its warnings and went out anyway were the most physically uncomfortable I’ve ever been. The lifestyle discipline required to make running consistently tolerable is overall a good thing. But on days when I know conditions are going to make it miserable, I don’t go. I’m not in it for competitive greatness, I’m out there for an enjoyable and sustainable habit.
• LeftHandPath 7y ago
  It’s so amazing how making it easy to get started is basically priming your brain to complete the task. I’ve gotten fit by hanging up a chin-up bar on a spare door frame. When I had a trainer, I was always amazed at what I could accomplish - even on days when I swore I felt dead in the morning - just by getting there and starting. I’ve gotten good at coding by keeping my IDEs of choice in the taskbar and working on small tasks during downtime. I study better and more often when I leave out my notebooks and calculator. The lower you set the barrier to entry, for a given activity, the better a chance you give yourself to actually complete that activity later.
  • etcher 7y ago
    > The lower you set the barrier to entry, for a given activity, the better a chance you give yourself to actually complete that activity later. Indeed, same reason why some people sleep with their gym shorts on so they are already dressed for exercise in the morning.
• vimota 7y ago
  James Clear calls this the 2 minute rule: https://jamesclear.com/how-to-stop-procrastinating https://jamesclear.com/how-to-stop-procrastinating, I too find it super helpful.
• samsonradu 7y ago
  Without knowing the op’s condition (so take this with a grain of salt), I’d advise against running 5km each & every day as it could wear out your knees, specially running on harder terrain (as most do). For amateur practitioners it’s good to alternate different activities so that certain muscles get to recover.
  • tartoran 7y ago
    Agree but the point was to try a light version of the challenge and you may get the determination to do the full version. Sure, running or any high impact sport can do damage to joints.
  • gregoryl 7y ago
    Do you have some evidence to back that claim? I run long distances, and whilst I have been given repeated advice of this nature, I have never seen any actual evidence that this is a problem?
    • AstralStorm 7y ago
      https://acrabstracts.org/abstract/prevalence-of-knee-pain-in-ultramarathon-runners/ https://acrabstracts.org/abstract/prevalence-of-knee-pain-in... - evidence of reduced risk. However the thing is the group is self selecting, people who experience joint problems stop running or do not run ultramarathons. (Ex-runners in this study did not in general stop because of joint problems.) Ultimately, the activity seems safe from standpoint of miles ran.
• 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
  Crucially, when you tell yourself "at least walk" or "at least one more X" you have to allow yourself to sometimes just walk and not have it have to turn into a secret run.
• asiachick 7y ago
  I wish that worked for me. I get up, don't feel like exercising. Do it anyway, 5-6 mins in say "fuck this" and stop.
• Zod666 7y ago
  Just saying with running you might want to take at least a day if not two off for your knees to recover.