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I like the idea but it's producing a lot of ... unappealing combos like peanut butter and honey ... sandwich? on ... rye? With a random side of red pepper hummu
by nkozyra 7y ago
I like the idea but it's producing a lot of ... unappealing combos like peanut butter and honey ... sandwich? on ... rye? With a random side of red pepper hummus?
I think what's missing is some graph of compatible ingredients per type of food. Things that generally require some companion (what am I eating that hummus with?) You could generate a pizza via compatibility scores. Same with curries, sandwiches, etc.
And of course hinting at the type of macros one might want. 60% of my diet as fat is probably not a good regular day.
But very compelling. I struggle with meal planning and the state of recipes and meals and the seo gamesmanship makes the whole thing very arduous.
- fredsanford 7y agoFWIW, Peanut butter and a drizzle of honey on rye is one of my goto sandwiches...
- nkozyra 7y agoI have peanut butter and honey often, but on a single piece of toast. And not for dinner, typically :)
- logicchains 7y agoIn Australia at least, peanut butter and honey sandwiches are a thing. The taste is actually not bad, and it is possibly healthier than peanut butter and jam sandwiches.
- aussiegeek 7y agoI'm curious where this is a thing more specifically, never heard of this living in Victoria and Queensland
- zbentley 7y agoThis was often a food for kids (<10yo) in Utah, USA, and other rocky mountain states.
- JoBrad 7y agoI've eaten this often, in the Southeast US.
- StuffedParrot 7y agoI grew up eating this (and odder combinations) in new england.
- senectus1 7y agome either in WA
- ydrol 7y agoWas a thing for me in Queensland!
- torstenvl 7y agoVery common in rural or frontier USA
- jimmux 7y agoIt was pretty normal for me in NSW. I used to add sliced banana sometimes as well.
- thmcmahon 7y agoDefinitely a thing growing up in central Victoria in the 80s/90s.
- stevenwoo 7y agoThere are a lot of things that go great with peanut butter and bread if you are open to it besides jam or honey - cheese, butter(toast), hazelnut spread, fresh fruit like bananas. Running out of groceries and living 20 miles from the nearest store leads one down this path of trying whatever is in the refrigerator/pantry.
- ACow_Adonis 7y agoSecond Aussie checking in. Lived in every capital along the east coast, bar Hobart. Also swear I've never heard of this in Australia :\ Make of that what you will.
- chongli 7y agoHoney is almost pure sugar. Healthier than white sugar, maybe, but unlikely to be healthier than high-quality jams made from whole fruit.
- mprovost 7y agoJam is basically a 50/50 mixture of whole fruit and white sugar.
- krageon 7y agoThat really depends on how it is made. It's not useful to make blanket statements like this when there can be a significant amount of deviation from what you expect to be true without it not being jam anymore.
- mprovost 7y agoI think the parent comment was implying that jam can be healthy just because it uses whole fruit as an ingredient. The chemistry behind turning a mixture of fruit and sugar into something called jam is pretty well known - there has to be a certain ratio of sugar for it to "set". Usually this is 1:1. I wrote my comment because I think that people are shocked when they actually see jam being made at home and how much sugar goes into a batch. https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/09/22/what-makes-jam-set-the-chemistry-of-jam-making/ https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/09/22/what-makes-jam-set-t...
- Wh1zz 7y agoI am looking at a whole jar of plum jam made by my grandpa with 0 added sugar.
- throwaway_tech 7y agoThen that is not jam...jam is defined as fruit with added sugar to act as a preservative. The question is what did you granpa use as a preservative? The preservative is going to be the difference between say: jam, marmalade, chutney, etc...
- jonnyscholes 7y agoCan confirm PB&H is a thing in Aus - however peanutbutter and Vegimite is where it's at
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoHahaha, of course I know I’m not alone, but honestly didn’t think I’d see someone here saying that! Peanut butter and Vegimite, and lots of butter.
- mahalol 7y agoI'm so trying this with Marmite when i get back home.
- david_parrott 7y agoMarmite sell this pre-made. https://www.marmite.co.uk/products/marmite-crunchy-peanut-butter-225-g.html https://www.marmite.co.uk/products/marmite-crunchy-peanut-bu...
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoAh, I kinda forget when it’s not in the house, but randomly remember just now. Try using meso instead of vegimite / marmite.
- papa_bear 7y agoPairings have been tough for us to get right. Your nutrition targets and meal/food filters have the biggest impact on what foods show up together, and then we have some weightings that influence pairings, but relatively minor. It's also tricky because while some people balk at certain food pairings, others think they're perfectly fine. Our main approach has been to just try to make it easy to swap things out if you don't like a suggestion (on the logged-in planner, you can tell a meal to give you a big list of alternatives to skim through instead of refreshing one at a time). One thing to try is bumping up the allowed complexity of a meal. Click the 3-dot menu next to the meal's name, edit the settings, and bump it up from Simple to Moderate. Then regenerate the meal to see if you get more appealing results.
- nkozyra 7y agoAny sort of feedback mechanism / collaborative filtering in place? Seems a good spot for data collection upon reroll to develop better recommendations
- Kiro 7y agoNo, that will just lead to useless feedback like you saying something delicious is unappealing.
- IE6 7y agoI was told to eat a serving of almond butter and some almonds as my lunch. Maybe flag some things as 'snacks' and try and pair a meal item like a sandwich with a snack item like 8 almonds.
- xenihn 7y agoFor what it's worth, that pairing sounds fine to me.
- nebulous1 7y agoI'm pretty sure that's a recipe on the site rather than a random combination. You can alter what recipes it will offer you.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agopeanut butter on honey is good, better than jelly or jam.
- 1ark 7y agoI make pancakes, from oats and cream cheese, with peanut butter and honey (or maple syrup) on top. I'm sorry.
- nmfisher 7y agoPancakes from oats & cream cheese sounds interesting - what's the ratio of ingredients?
- 1ark 7y agoAbout 1/1. 1dl oats, blend them first 1dl cream cheese 2 eggs 1dl (almond) milk (because I like them thinner) 1tbsp butter 1tsp cinnamon 1tsp baking powder My version of something like this one: https://www.tasteefulrecipes.com/cream-cheese-oatmeal-pancakes-recipelow-carb/ https://www.tasteefulrecipes.com/cream-cheese-oatmeal-pancak...
- balt_s 7y agoCounterpoint: peanut butter and honey sandwich is delicious, and a worthy competitor to the king of childhood sandwiches, the venerable PB&J.
- leetcrew 7y agosure, but on rye?
- droopyEyelids 7y agoit's the caraway you're objecting to. Simply purchase a hearty rye wheat loaf, and it'll work perfectly.
- black_puppydog 7y agoYes absolutely! rye is amazing!
- EpicEng 7y agoSo is ice cream, but I wouldn't want chunks of steak on top.
- draw_down 7y agoYeah? You usually have that on rye with a side of hummus as a kid?
- kube-system 7y agoPeanut butter and bacon sandwiches are even better
- esaym 7y agoThis
- duckymcduckface 7y agoI'm not sure if this will be great or I'm being punked.
- cookie_monsta 7y agoThe PB and honey sandwich was a childhood favourite for me. I must revisit one day to see if it's all I remember it being.
- figo22 7y agoI struggle with finding food that fits my plans that isn't boring and monotonous. To that end, this seems like a useful endeavor, though I'm not sure if it's all the way there.
- whatsmyusername 7y agoI actually enjoy peanut butter and honey sandwhichs.
- ryen 7y ago> peanut butter and honey ... sandwich? Hey, my 5 year old daughter loves that!
- TheBobinator 7y agoThis is what I miss about the internet from 15 years ago. You looked for a recipe back then you'd get a bunch of simple websites with concise instructions that made a fair amount of sense. People wrote it like an old cookbook. Wanted diet advice? Sure there were a few snake oil salesmen but the nutrition information you could find was pretty decent for those people who had put things up. Today you have a bunch of food entertainers who have turned the entire gambit into such of an utter clown show. You can get a recipe but you'll have to wade through 10 half-page pictures of food that are completely unrelated to what you want to make and clickbait in a scrolling never-ending screen. You can find a video, but instead of it being literally someone's grandma making it with real expertise, it's some 20-something insecure chef emulating what they saw on TV. This level of FUBAR goes way beyond marketing; we have people competing in a race to the bottom. You try to find a cookbook today, and you've got the same garbage. 90% pictures, 10% text. "Eat this Much" is just a continuation of this trend; you aren't marketing this as a resource for me to use, if you were, it'd be named something else. The first thing I see when I visit your website isn't something useful. You've got a completely useless webapp, then a bunch of assurance crap below that. If this were a website being shown in the 90's everyone would think you're a scammer. You're marketing this to me like I'm a child and must be instructed on what to do; your brand is looking for guillable people, that's why it's marketed as an instruction, not a tool. You're doing that because once you have people eating, literally, from your hand, you will !@#! them hard by making marketable suggestions that you will get other companies to pay you top dollar for because they are building relationships with guillable people. The last thing I need is an app interpreting my cravings for me; It's bad enough you have food companies hiring nutritionists and psychologists to figure out what to put in their products to addict their constituency. It's a digusting business model and pollutes the information supply for profit.
- SecureVillage 7y agoI'm fairly health conscious and spend weeks at a time logging calories in either a deficit or a surplus. I do enjoy cooking but, day to day, it's more important for me to meet my macros with minimal investment. I'm also a vegetarian. It's generally quite difficult to meet your protein goals without meat (especially when out) so I end up eating the same meals quite often. On entering my calories, this app spun up a number of sensible high protein suggestions and has given me some inspirations for how I can make my diet more interesting. tldr: I have an above average knowledge of nutrition and a lack of imagination. I found this app useful.
- lopis 7y agoI got Sandwich with carrots and raisins. I don't really see that staying together.
- DingleBarry 7y agoPeanut Butter & Mustard is where its at! Sounds terrible, tastes like ambrosia.
- frankish 7y agoHonestly, I think you should give some of the combinations a try. 1. Peanut butter and honey (or brown sugar) sandwiches were my favorite as a kid and nowadays I just ditch the bread 2. Peanut butter can be a substitute for tahini as a hummus ingredient Heck, I recently tried: * Pumpkin pie dessert hummus from Costco and loved it. With some strawberries it was gold. * Peanut butter and bacon cheeseburger Now when it comes to rye, I think the lack of also there is that it's just not good IMO.
- chooseaname 7y agoIf peanut butter and honey isn't your thing, try a banana and mayo sandwich.
- WhompingWindows 7y agoMy brother's bees make delicious honey, way better than store bought, and it goes fantastically with PB.
- vincentmarle 7y agoMy favorite combos: - Peanut butter + Nutella (add banana for bonus points) - Peanut butter + chocolate sprinkles - Strawberry jam + Gouda cheese Put this on brioche bread... heaven!
- kderbyma 7y agoThere are cooking 'bibles' which go into extreme depth of flavours and textures combinations. Someone could try to codify them