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Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Goo
by ropiwqefjnpoa 7y ago
Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway.
For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick.
And YouTube...
- IggleSniggle 7y agoApple Maps is now quite usable if you're on iOS...although it's no Waze.
- hakanensari 7y agoIssues I have with Apple Maps: no cycling directions and, to a lesser degree, overall slightly-worse-quality and less intuitive visuals, like lacking first-person point-of-view or not updating starting point and estimates if I move when displaying directions. Of course, there's an element of me having gotten too much used to Google Maps in some of this.
- saagarjha 7y ago> lacking first-person point-of-view You mean street view? Apple Maps is slowly rolling out their version.
- hakanensari 7y agoI mean displaying from the point of view of you walking or driving. It simply shows a birds-eye view (unless I'm somehow glossing over a toggle somewhere?).
- JustSomeNobody 7y agoTwo finger swipe up and down changes the perspective.
- macintux 7y agoI've been using Apple Maps for years now, but the new maps are practically unusable for one of my favorite use cases: scanning for roads in remote, wooded areas. I was trying to show someone one of my favorite state highways through the Hoosier National Forest, but the road (remember, a state highway!) literally vanishes into the greenery until you zoom quite far in. Maddening.
- greggman2 7y agoApple Maps meh. It doesn't work across devices. I look maps on my browser all the time. I need maps to appear everywhere and be sharable with the 80% of the planet not using iOS
- saagarjha 7y agoYou can share Apple Maps links with people; they'll open in Google Maps on devices that don't have Apple Maps.
- kristiandupont 7y agoYou can use Apple Maps in the browser through DuckDuckGo
- metalchianti 7y agoI tried to kick Waze via Apple Maps but their routes are significantly worse. Sometimes the routes that Apple would give me were 10-20% longer than Waze's projection. Waze is the best, followed closely by Google Maps, and (unfortunately) Apple is a distance 3rd. Still hoping a viable alternative turns up!
- jstanley 7y agoI use https://maps.openrouteservice.org/ https://maps.openrouteservice.org/ and find it to be perfectly adequate.
- aembleton 7y agoPretty good, but it doesn't do public transport.
- jeegsy 7y agoExcellent product from my brief examination. Does this work on mobile?
- rkangel 7y agoThat seems like an excellent mapper (and the isochrones are fun), but it doesn't look like it takes into account traffic conditions. I regularly you google maps just to see which of my commute options is faster that day, and if I have to drive in London any route finding system that doesn't take into account current traffic is next to useless.
- michaelbrooks 7y agoI wish someone could create a viable YouTube competitor, seems like there's no one that has succeeded just yet.
- mc32 7y agoWell it took YT over a decade to become profitable —before that it was losing lots of money so it’s kinda understandable competitors would be few and far between
- ropiwqefjnpoa 7y agoI really like the idea of PeerTube, I wish it would gain a larger audience. Profitability might be it's biggest hurdle though.
- glenstein 7y agoIn the meantime you can use invidio.us, which scrapes youtube, and lets you 'subscribe' and create playlists without having an account directly on youtube. NewPipe is an app for getting youtube without the youtube. And PeerTube is still young, but a place to check out and get involved with, if you want to see an alternative succeed.
- dewey 7y ago> getting youtube without the youtube I think that's not really what people have issues with. The scariest thing about YouTube to me is that there's so much great content that's only on YouTube and there's not really an alternative. So if YouTube goes away for some reason, or Google decides to wipe all videos with < xxxx views, or Google decides to get rid of it for liability issues or other things there's nothing to archive this amount of content.
- Doctor_Fegg 7y agoOnce you've kicked the car-driving habit, kicking Google Maps is easy...
- mc32 7y agoPeople need wayfinding regardless of how you get around.
- Grue3 7y agoYeah, Google Maps is surprisingly good when you are on a foreign trip and need to find which bus you need to take to get somewhere. There are probably better country-specific apps to do the same, but GM works in all sorts of countries like Hungary or Japan.
- fock 7y agonot so well in bulgaria, just not im serbia
- yyyk 7y agoMoovit (for example) has coverage of public transit in both of these countries. So even in that area there are alternatives for Google.
- Grue3 7y agoIt does have some cities from these countries, but the coverage is not total enough. I have used Google maps to catch buses in obscure places like Iwaki and Balatonfüred.
- RealStickman 7y agoThere's also OpenStreetmaps
- arunmib 7y agoThere is Mapquest (based on mapbox) it is surprisingly good.
- lallysingh 7y agoOpenStreetMap had solid data, but my periodic attempts at finding a good app haven't been successful.
- maze-le 7y agoHave you tried OSMand (https://osmand.net/ https://osmand.net/). It is not very pretty, but I definitly love the "offline" feature and bicycle maps.
- namibj 7y agoYou an combine with brouter to get awesome elevation0-respecting foot and bike routes. This works all fully offline, btw.
- jeremejevs 7y agohttps://maps.me/ https://maps.me/ is a pretty mainstream option.
- snaky 7y agoWith removed ads and binaries https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.axet.maps/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.axet.maps/
- RealStickman 7y agoI'm using OsmAnd+ found on f-droid. It works very well, you'll just have to download the maps you need before.
- arunmib 7y agoThere is Mapquest (based on mapbox) it is surprisingly good and works well for nearly most of my use cases.
- RonanTheGrey 7y agoI live outside the US and struggle with a good mapping solution... I make a point to stick with Apple Maps on my phone but sometimes I am forced to resort to Google Maps to find some place I know exists but Apple Maps doesn't have it :/ So I just tried Mapquest and it had the same problem :( Google's mapping dominance outside the US is really only challenged by Bing maps... which I can't get on iOS. Nearest is HERE maps but it's not quite the same product.
- donaltroddyn 7y agoIn terms of browsers, I have moved back to Firefox from Google for my personal/professional browsing, but I have a product that is heavily reliant on Puppeteer and CDP. There are moves towards interoperability in Firefox, but that's my current blocker.
- digitarald 7y agoFirefox DevTools member here. We are looking into Puppeteer/CDP – what is the product you depend on? If you can't post it here, feel free to email me [nickname] at mozilla org
- nobleach 7y agoNot the OP but, I use puppeteer (and headless Chromium) as a PDF rendering service. I'd love to be able to try the same thing with a headless Gecko/Slimer.js type thing. My current build process is a major pain to keep updated (building an Alpine docker image with the right version of Chrome to match the right version of puppeteer with the right version of nodejs) And after all that, it's pretty slow.
- purple_ducks 7y agoHow many devs are on the firefox devtools team?
- digitarald 7y ago~10 across various panels and the new profiler.firefox.com.
- donaltroddyn 7y agoBadly worded on my part, but it's my own product. I use Puppeteer to run headless Chrome instances in AWS Lambda to evaluate the network traffic associated with advertising data collection. I have a toolchain built around Puppeteer and CDP, which is in use by customers, so migration isn't a viable option for me.
- paulryanrogers 7y ago
- reportgunner 7y agoTry blocking all images on Youtube so you won't see thumbnails. It helps a ton.
- arunmib 7y agoDon't follow the point
- exergy 7y agoTo avoid deep binges into youtube. First of all, youtube thumbnails are cancer anyway, so blocking them is one step towards a Lower Information Diet. And the first step to being able to quit any addictions to youtube.
- Yajirobe 7y ago> youtube thumbnails are cancer anyway That's due to content creators, not YouTube.
- bmn__ 7y agoIt's not that simple. YT pressures content creators into doing all sorts of stupid shit. They are made to think they don't really have a choice unless they want to risk their monetisation. One memorable particularity was YT prompting the content creators to make thumbnail images with grimacing faces, which IMO is cancerous. yt/user/theCodyReeder talked about it, but I cannot find the video any more, this was about two years ago.
- PX79 7y agoWhen YouTube (actively or not) incentivizes that style of thumbnails you cant really blame the creators. I've heard something like 20% more viewers based solely on having a more "creative" thumbnail.
- reportgunner 7y agoIt drastically reduces the occurence of me clicking another video. If I want to see a video I have to read all titles and it gives me a chance to think if I want to stop watching. An added bonus is that it takes me at least a couple seconds to find a video to watch when I open the front page and I don't end up subconsciously clicking the first interesting thumbnail. PS: Also let me add that I'm using youtube signed off with no cookies in a browser that doesn't remember history so the front page is usually the same videos that I don't want to watch for a couple days or a week at a time.