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- carrozo 7y agoI had similar thoughts, but, um, skate where the puck is headed?
- cududa 7y agoI think that’s the authors point. Not admonishing the design but that this is what our culture wants
- rb808 7y agoPersonally I love the design. First thing I thought of is that it looks a lot like a stealth fighter - interestingly, does that mean it can avoid radar speed detectors too?
- makerofspoons 7y agoThat would be fascinating if it could. IIRC there is an urban legend that the stainless steel St. Louis Gateway Arch is almost invisible to radar. That being said DeLorean DMC-12s are not invisible to radar speed detectors so I would doubt the Cybertruck is.
- innocentoldguy 7y agoI do too. I think the design is beautiful and unique. I also like that the doors are hard to dent and that I can get from 0 to 60 in less than 3 seconds. All great qualities, as far as I'm concerned. I've already ordered one and look forward to driving it around in two or three years.
- viraptor 7y agoPossibly more/less visible. Speed radars reflect off surfaces facing it. In practice that means the front, the reg plate, sometimes the side mirror for most cars. For the cyber truck it's going to be extremes depending on the radar location - completely front facing one may be hard to bounce, but the ones over the street may hit the flat front perfectly. It still won't work around speed cameras like the ones in UK (it's both a radar and photo camera) or variable speed cameras which use reg recognition.
- amluto 7y agoIt is probably invisible to Tesla Autopilot.
- perl4ever 7y agoI'm definitely not an expert, but from what I've read, there's a lot of irony in the angular look of the F-117a becoming the icon of "futuristic". That plane, first of all was designed in the mid to late 1970s. Second, notice that newer [stealthy] planes don't look the same? What people say is that the facets were purely a necessity to simplify the calculations needed to make it stealthy. People did incredible things when computing power was expensive to solve problems analytically, which became obsolete once you could just apply brute force. Also, I don't know about the business of making movie props, but it seems plausible to me that when making cars for SF movies, decades ago when budgets were lower, probably involved large sheets of plywood, cardboard, foamcore or whatever, hence big facets would be the most expedient design. It's weird how arbitrary so many signaling mechanisms are.
- caf 7y agoI'm pretty sure LIDAR speed detectors are a lot more common than radar these days.
- basementcat 7y agoUnlikely. The F-117 looks like a "low polygon" airplane because it literally is a "low polygon" airplane. The 3d electromagnetic field solvers running on the fastest computers available at the time of the development of the F-117 were only capable of simulating an object with a small number of facets so engineers designed an airplane that could fly with a minimum number of polygon facets.
- makerofspoons 7y agoI think the author is reading way too much into the design. It looks the way it does to drive down production costs and because of the limitations of the processes used to manufacture it: https://electrek.co/2019/11/24/teslas-cybertruck-looks-weird-because-otherwise-it-would-break-the-machines-to-make-it/ https://electrek.co/2019/11/24/teslas-cybertruck-looks-weird... If there is some concern that Tesla is predicting some dystopian future it should have begun the moment they introduced 'Bioweapon Defense Mode'.
- ogre_codes 7y agoWhile the idea that this design is all about reducing costs does make a lot of sense, it doesn't explain the near-bullet-proof windows. Also, while the stainless exo-skeleton reduces some manufacturing costs, it seems like it would increase weight significantly which would increase battery requirements. Considering batteries are still one of the biggest cost components of these things, that doesn't really sound like a cost reducing measure. I try not to read motivation behind events, but personally, I'm down with buying a vehicle designed for the apocalypse. Maybe he's trying to target the prepper demographic here. Once you add in the solar option, this thing becomes fully self-sufficient (with the obvious caveat that it's only recharging 10 miles per day)
- mrlambchop 7y agoThe fact that the windows and doors were compared against bullets and sledge hammers seems a marketing stunt. The specs for the materials are no doubt from the requirement "make trucks extremely rugged".
- ogre_codes 7y agoThat doesn't really fit with the idea that the design choices were based on aggressively keeping prices down though.
- xiphias2 7y agoYou can read through the replies from Elon's tweet a year ago asking people what they want from a pickup, and being rugged was one of the answers actually.
- jayparth 7y agoI disagree with this article. Of course your messaging is going to be different when selling a pickup truck and a SUV. If anything I see commonalities between Model X and Cybertruck- both are unashamed with their design, even though it might be impractical to some, or ugly. This reminds me of English class in high school where we were made to read into themes and "literary devices." A lot of times the themes were substantial, and the authors intended them to mean something and convey a message to the reader. But many times they didn't- we were tasked with finding a theme so we would look for anything that resembled narrative so we could finish our essay. This guy is looking too hard.
- jliptzin 7y agoI'm assuming the author is an English major.
- nuzzl 7y agoAgreed.
- inopinatus 7y agoGiven that they misused the phrase "begs a question" to mean "raise questions", rather than "an argument whose premises assume the conclusion", I don't think so.
- dmix 7y agoI also thought it was telling he kept mentioning Tesla X, which is a product category exclusively for upper-middle class and is hardly Tesla's mainstream vision for cars, nor the most popular. If anything they should be talking about Tesla's 3 if we're going to talk about what our car designs mean for our future vision for society (which of course will always have it's limits).
- AndrewKemendo 7y agoI think the first commenter on that article said it best: "The Cybertruck is designed with the sole purpose of brutally driving down the cost of production. PERIOD. ... They aren’t building dystopia. That’s your neo-cortex story telling. They are driving down costs to get the price of what would be a $65,000 truck to a $45,000 truck so they can remove excuses of why people shouldn’t buy one."
- keyle 7y agoAnd bulletproof material is designed to reduce cost how?
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- monocasa 7y agoTo assuage concerns about the complications of a unibody from r regular fender bender body work?
- cybertrucker 7y agoBy introducing an artifact that appeals to the visceral need for a “&$#@ yeah!” element common to the truck-owning or potentially truck-owning demographic at a low cost relative to alternative elements that evoke a similar emotion — and hopefully precipitate a purchase for a better orders * price - costs = revenue overall than not including bulletproof windows.
- fzeroracer 7y agoTo make sure that if the truck is ever in an accident that it kills everyone on both sides of the equation. Cars crumple for a reason and Tesla's new truck seems like an absolute safety disaster even if people feel marginally safer because of it being supposedly bulletproof.
- aetherson 7y agoThat comment makes the claim that a stronger skin can take up some of the load bearing that you would otherwise have to make larger number of internal components to handle and then weld them to the frame. I have no idea how plausible this claim is.
- rch 7y agoI've had a vehicle to get me from A to B for most of the last 25 years, but this is the first one I've actually wanted. For context, my first question was: "how much firewood will it carry"?
- techslave 7y agoso you can produce greenhouse gases? lol!
- Trowter 7y agoI heard wood fires were carbon neutral
- drewnick 7y agoGrowing a tree and burning it is carbon neutral.
- dang 7y agoCan you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or mean comments to Hacker News? You've done it repeatedly, and we're trying for a bit better than that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html explains.
- davchana 7y agoSame here, I do not have much savings, new to US, but kind of almost ready to pay $100 to book it & hope in 2021 I will afford it.
- ogre_codes 7y agoUp to 100 cubic feet with the cover closed, up to 3500 pounds if you add some redneck plywood panels to stack it higher :D I was thinking about shuttling mountain bikes up to the top of the hill myself. I could easily get 6 bikes and 6 people. If they could get summon to work on forest roads this would be the perfect shuttle truck.
- pjc50 7y agoWhat's the answer? It doesn't look like it has a pick up bed.
- boznz 7y agoJust add some attitude adjustment in the software so they cant drive right up peoples arse on the freeway and problem solved, instantly better than all other trucks!
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- _Microft 7y agoThe design is a statement, it's even a declaration of war. I think they are targeting people who do not care for environmental issues and who still think that electric vehicles are something for beaus and weaklings. If these people can't be convinced to transition to EVs for ecological reasons, just give them another reason. It doesn't matter why they drive EVs, just that they do. (Well, and to give other car companies a kick in the butt in this market segment). It is a design you can't ignore, it looks metal af and no matter what your pickup currently looks like, it will appear wimpy next to it. Also observe that it no longer sports a Tesla logo. The teaser image [0] that Musk posted before still had one. There is none on the inside either, as far as I could tell, so maybe they are moving the Cybertruck away from the Tesla brand. The presentation was on SpaceX' premises as well, if I remember correctly. (Compare that to Zuckerberg who thinks that Facebook isn't credited enough for the success of its daughter platforms WhatsApp and Instagram and is moving them closer to the (imo) toxic brand of Facebook). [0] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1106714774694297601 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1106714774694297601
- tobib 7y ago> I think they are targeting people who do not care for environmental issues and who still think that electric vehicles are something for beaus and weaklings. If they can't be convinced to transition to EVs for ecological reasons, give them another reason because it doesn't matter why they drive EVs, just that they do This actually opened my eyes, I haven't thought about it that way
- paganel 7y ago> it's even a declaration of war. Yeah, it is a declaration of war against pedestrians. Thankfully this thing will never catch on here in Europe and I'll continue being safe while crossing the street.
- nordsieck 7y ago> Yeah, it is a declaration of war against pedestrians. Thankfully this thing will never catch on here in Europe and I'll continue being safe while crossing the street. Speed is what kills, not a slightly harder body. Even the lightest car has enough mass that it's going to really hurt pedestrians if it hits one at speed. And if any car - even this one - hits someone at 5 mph, it's not going to do that much damage.
- macintux 7y agoWorth noting that Jalopnik is famous for this sort of controversial take on things to encourage discussion. I love the site but, apart from its excellent investigative journalism regarding Goodyear tires and the criminal coverup[1], its content has never really been about insightful analysis that would warrant being referenced here. 1: https://jalopnik.com/goodyear-knew-of-dangerous-rv-tire-failures-for-over-20-1824997252 https://jalopnik.com/goodyear-knew-of-dangerous-rv-tire-fail...
- rcMgD2BwE72F 7y agoIt's telling that their opinion fully contradicts what the truck's design team said about their thought process (cf https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pi...) and that they don't even care to consider it.
- dammitcoetzee 7y agoIt's a truck you dork. You do work with it. It gets dented. Gravel comes up and chips your window.
- Gibbon1 7y agoI call that 'patina'. If anyone is upset their truck has a scratch they probably shouldn't own one.
- nodesocket 7y ago> because we are running out of oil, the precious and finite resource that is utterly destroying our planet. Not really running out. The US is the largest oil producing nation in the world now, and our output is at the highest levels[1] in history. Oil is practically dirt cheap and I don't see it breaking out in price anytime soon. [1] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS1&f=M https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...
- xiphias2 7y ago,,The stone age didn't end because the lack of stones''
- buboard 7y agoMaybe it's overanalyzed? The design is unusual but does look like a low poly lamborghini, so it has some appeal as sports item. But is the design even legal? Is it legal in every country to not have side mirrors? That front LED light is also blinding. And is it OK for a car to have so dangerously stiff side doors? I don't know if it says much about the future of cars, it's a more of a lifestyle item and it remains to be seen how many of the preorders are being serious.
- ncmncm 7y agoThe linked article is more revealing: https://jalopnik.com/a-deep-look-at-the-design-of-tesla-s-cybertruck-1839993654 https://jalopnik.com/a-deep-look-at-the-design-of-tesla-s-cy...
- rcMgD2BwE72F 7y agoThis one is much better: https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pi...
- ncmncm 7y agoThat's just bumper-to-bumper hype.
- lordleft 7y agoThis is the first article to acknowledge something I noticed about the Cybertruck: that it seems to be drawing from a dystopian and cyberpunk aesthetic. I don't know if that means Elon is portending the end of western civilization, but it's a very interesting choice and I don't think the article writer is wrong to unpack what the design connotes.
- loceng 7y agoThey designed from first principles. That's it. What would a truck look like if you built in the utility that's desired with a pickup truck - Cybertruck is what you get. They kept it simple with the EV benefits and good design twist. 250k pre-orders at last tweet I saw from Musk - and the online video reviews are reasonable people saying they love it, pre-ordered and will buy it, even if they're still not 100% sold on its look.
- hellotomyrars 7y agoHow do you review a product you don’t have access to?
- nouveau0 7y agoThis article just screams anti-EV. Jalopnik writers have a huge bias towards ICE. > Cars are a reflection of ourselves, whether we choose to festoon them in explicit messages or not. They can show what we hope for, what we aspire to, not just how large or how modest our bank accounts are. They are how we present ourselves to our fellow human Ya, not everyone believes that
- kortilla 7y agoSeriously, cars are not a fashion item and anyone who thinks otherwise is speaking from a position of privilege.
- thephyber 7y agoSales numbers on hideous cars (eg. Pontiac Aztec) of the past say otherwise. There is absolutely some correlation between how fashionable a car is and how well it sells.
- kortilla 7y agoYet the Prius sold by the droves despite its “obvious hideousness” declared by reviewers at the time of its release.
- LyndsySimon 7y agoThe hideousness of the Prius was on purpose: it was visibly signaling that the owner was someone motivated by environmental concerns.
- jdkdnfndnfjd 7y agoThis whole article and it’s sentiment is wrong. It’s a good example of a person who is not capable of thinking from first principles or who never watched the reveal. Which describes basically everyone’s reaction to the truck. What is a truck? A utilitarian vehicle. Does aesthetics add utility to the vehicle? No. Does it cost lots of money to make the car look swoopy? Yes. Does it increase the utility to give the vehicle an exoskeleton rather than a traditional frame? Yes. Should we make the car swoopy instead of making it an exoskeleton? No. Literally every logical angle points to doing what they did. They maximized utility and minimized cost. Is this a good formula for a regular car? No! Is this a good formula for a utility vehicle? Yes! Are there lots of idiots out there who like to daily drive “utility vehicles” for their commute? Yes! Doug D reviews the car and said it costs too much. But he only ever compared the upfront cost of the trucks. You save money on fuel and maintenance with an ev, and his omission of that was glaring. People saying strong glass is bad because first responders. If I want to have strong glass then that’s my right. And living in the sf Bay Area, I don’t just want strong glass I fucking need strong glass. Elon musk shared a video on twitter of the glass resisting a 1kg steel ball being thrown at it. When it broke on stage it was a fluke. And 9mm resistance would also be really nice. Apparently Doug D never visited Oakland.
- danans 7y ago> Does aesthetics add utility to the vehicle? No If you don't think there wasn't a ton of thought put into the aesthetics of the cybertruck, you don't understand how cars are designed. It's not a design that emerges from pure functionalism at all. Pure functionalism is a bus or a train, a dump truck, or a goods delivery vehicle, like the kind that brings beer to a corner store. I say that as someone who would probably buy a cybertruck. > Apparently Doug D never visited Oakland. Leave Oakland out of it. You wouldn't believe it but children play on the streets here without wearing any body armor at all.
- jdkdnfndnfjd 7y agoI live in Oakland you git
- impulser_ 7y agoPeople that use trucks for actual truck things won't buy this. The design of the bed is a design flaw. Imagine you work construction and you have tools in the back of the bed. You will have to climb inside the bed of the truck everytime to load and unload the tools. You cannot access the bed from the side because of the stupid design. There is no way this will compete with the EV F150 that will come out near the same time frame as this. Tesla doesn't even have a method to produce the body of these trucks at the scale needed for production. Most of the people that pre-order these trucks won't see them until at least 2025, if not later. You think people are going to wait for these over buying an EV F150 that Ford can produce at scale of the normal F150. Maybe some will because of the brand, but most will go for the F150.
- bryanlarsen 7y agoCan you do that in any modern half ton? They're so much taller than they used to be; you have to be at six feet tall to reach the bed from the side.
- ChickeNES 7y ago> People that use trucks for actual truck things won't buy this. The design of the bed is a design flaw. Imagine you work construction and you have tools in the back of the bed. You will have to climb inside the bed of the truck everytime to load and unload the tools. You cannot access the bed from the side because of the stupid design. That's what the frunk, the trunk in the bottom of the bed, and the storage in the two triangle rear panels are for
- aasasd 7y agoI've only now taken a look at the truck from all sides, and it does many things that I've thought of from the standpoint of new design movements being reactions to previous design movements. IMO we're currently sorta ripe for cohesive neo-neo-modernism in consumer tech, after the plenty of show-offery and getting designs ever more ‘friendly’. We've seen that shift in e.g. aluminum Macbooks after earlier iMacs, but cars seem to trail behind since there's apparently no design nerd like Jobs there. Cars are all bulbous and curvy now. The closest to a modernist car that's not looking outright DIY, is the first-generation Audi TT: just a rounded box on another rounded box. So what would a modernist car feature nowadays? Let's look at the Cybertruck: - Resurrects the wedge shape and makes the panels even flatter than they were in the 80s, instead of the ubiquitous ‘curve on curve’ of today after we learned to shape panels whatever which way. Lots of cars from the hatchback wave of the past decade, like Opel Astra J, looked simultaneously family- and rally-oriented with no discernible design statement: that feels like baroque indulgence, it's got to stop. - A flat, straight LED line of light instead of barely-comprehensible current headlights. (Just two giant flat rectangular panels would also do pretty good, but would resemble SUVs from the 90s.) - No decoration of any kind on the front. This one is important, and Tesla did well here. It's pretty much the last bastion of brand-specific decoration when cars all look the same shape—but (afaik) even the radiator grille on ICE cars is only for appearance now, and Tesla has already shown that it's ready to dispose of that. With the truck, the deed is done. Funny enough, even recently most attempts at artistic depictions of ‘future cars’ imagined them more complex, not less. It will be curious to see how designs turn around now.
- oliv__ 7y ago> It will be curious to see how designs turn around now. This is exactly what I've been wondering. Can't wait to see how the rest of the market reacts to this new direction. Are all cars going to shift this way? That would look cra-zy on a highway!!
- aasasd 7y agoEh, the collective market is probably incapable of reaction that's not measured in at least a decade, even though someone really should tame those shapeless blobs with headlights spilling all over the hood and sides. I'm placing my hopes in artists first of all, then maybe we'll get some spartan looks and reincarnations of the Stratos Zero/Countach wedge in consumer sport cars, and then hopefully some of that seeps into the mass market. Won't be surprised if Japan barges in, if this becomes a trend at all―it seems their cars looked cleaner until just recently. Though this might also mean that they're gonna carry that complexity momentum now that they sorta gained it.
- gurumeditations 7y agoFirst of all, this is typical Gawker-site blog spam. It has zero insight. Second of all, while I’m sure you can find some tesla fans who will go for it, especially with a $100 refundable deposit, I think they just made a bad call. How they go from Model X/3/S to this, escapes me. I love flat car panels, but I don’t think anyone who isn’t already a tesla fan will go for it. It’s viscerally ugly. They got many fundamentals right. The problem is the look. Trucks are not utilitarian. They are SUVs with the roof removed to make it less useful so that men will be comfortable buying it. Utilitarianism is not a legitimate excuse for this design. It looks like a bunch of Silicon Valley nerds designed a truck they’d want to drive. It definitely has that niche appeal, but certainly no mass-market appeal. Is Tesla’s long term strategy to stay in the high end? I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re doing this kind of niche appeal because the price of batteries has not come down far enough to make a cheap decent electric car yet.
- hellotomyrars 7y agoTrucks pre-date the SUV and while there is certainly a market segment of people who buy a truck and don’t have need of a truck the idea an SUV is a more utilitarian vehicle in the literal sense of the word is beyond the pale. Agree the Tesla cybertruck is hideous and unlikely to appeal to a mass market for consumers or commercial operators.
- imesh 7y agoThis is so not accurate. There is a reason trades people drive trucks and it's not because they look manlier than SUVs. In fact the problem with the Tesla truck is that it looks like it was designed by someone who thinks people buy trucks because of macho aesthetics.
- danans 7y agoEven if the general shape of the cybertruck follows from the materials and production process, the packaging and marketing is clearly playing off dystopian fantasies. Both of these things can be true at the same time. Selling cars is as much about telling a story as it is about explaining how you will get someone from point A to point B. That's even true for "boring" family cars - the story they are telling is one of reliability.
- Nasrudith 7y agoPersonally I think looking upon the stort elements is the tail wagging the dog. Theym story is the means for the emotional elements. Like many fugly SUVs made themselves inefficent roll over risks to try to sell illusions of security the styling is selling a power fantasy in addition. Not uncommon for truck marketing. Not only collision protection which they pride themselves on but overkill "sledgehammer resistance" and projectile resistance to not worry about it. They even boasted solar roof options to give gradual recharge.
- imtringued 7y agoSledgehammer resistance isn't useful in practice. Getting T-boned is one of the worst types of collisions even though the B pillar usually doesn't get breached. All the energy of the collision is still being transferred into the occupants which often results in a coma with no visible injuries (other than getting your brain smashed). The purpose of crumple zones is to dissipate the energy of a collision and avoid these types of accidents.
- ncmncm 7y agoWhat the author is missing, perhaps, is that Elon thinks he will need trucks on Mars, and won't be able to take enough with him. But if the heavy parts can be stamped out by a machine he can take, then he can have trucks there made, largely, from steel plate refined from Mars dust, and glass refined from Mars dust. It won't matter so much if they're too heavy, because gravity is less. It will need two or three layers of glass, with a vacuum gap between, for warmth, and to maintain shirtsleeve air pressure. It won't matter how they look, because nobody will ever go outside except for work, and try to send out robots even then. He needs steel refining and rolling to make rocket body/tanks. I wonder how the thickness of the body panels compares with those of his new rocket thing... One thing the author got dead right: these things will look very dated very, very quickly.
- kilpikaarna 7y agoOh lol. No wonder Tesla can't turn a consostent profit if this is the sort of thing they're optimizing for.
- tim333 7y agoYeah I think he was only half joking when he tweeted: “Tesla Cybertruck (pressurized edition) will be official truck of Mars.”
- ncmncm 7y agoWow, when did that come out? Called it.
- m463 7y agoAren't trucks supposed to be about "drive somewhere and do some stuff"?
- AYBABTME 7y agoThe author is trying pretty hard to pull this narrative. When I first saw it, I thought the Cybertruck looks hideous. But then, I don't care much what my car looks like. I often wished the outside of my Golf was more scrappy, rougher, something I don't need to care about denting. The Cybertruck would be perfect for me in that sense: you can use that truck and do a lot of work with it without having to worry about the paint or breaking something. It's a perfect design for it's intended purpose. To me, it doesn't paint a dystopian future. It paints a future where appearances serve an intended purpose, instead of the current opposite. A pickup truck is an utilitarian object. The cybertruck design is purely utilitarian. I love it. Now if they could make a Cyberhatchback, I'd buy it right now.
- ncmncm 7y agoThere is absolutely nothing utilitarian about the design. Trucks in the 1920s and early 1930s were utilitarian. This thing is 100% about the look.
- chrisco255 7y agoAgreed. In fact one of my biggest arguments against the design is that it will NOT appeal to the average truck owner, because the design gets in the way of the utility. For example, a lot of trucks have toolboxes on the front side of the bed. Due to the triangular sides that pitch at the front of the bed, you can't reach into the bed there from the side of the truck. That's already a nonstarter for a work truck. Another thing is bed rails. The triangular design again prevents the installation of horizontal rails that keep things relatively level. Same story for a roof rack. It's nearly impossible to craft a roof rack for this design that doesn't look goofy and ride extremely high. Look we can argue about stagnation in truck design but there's something to be said about a timeless design feature, like the classic truck bed. I think Tesla misses here and so their main market for this will be competing against off-road SUVs like Jeep Grand Cherokee or Range Rover. The Cybertruck will not compete directly with say, Ford's F150 and the Silverado.
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- jdmoreira 7y agoI'm buying one and so is William Gibson. Cars never appealed to me until I saw the Cybertruck.
- mendelmaleh 7y agoOr maybe they're just trying to target two different markets. Don't put all your eggs in one basket...
- sunstone 7y agoThis was a nice exercise in creative writing. The Model X and the truck are different vehicles for different use cases. One is a luxury vehicle and the other is a cheap as chips (almost) utilitarian vehicle that can take a beating. Neither is a metaphor for the future of mankind.
- lizardking 7y agoTLDR: author projects their anxiety and angst onto an electric truck.