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Why Some People Are Impossibly Talented

70 points by andrewl 7y ago

andrewl 7y ago
From the introduction: Polymaths excel in multiple fields. But what makes a polymath – and can their cross-discipline expertise help tackle some of society’s most pressing challenges?
octosphere 7y ago
Yeah but the article overlooks the many polymaths who spread themselves thinly across a variety of different fields, never achieving true mastery of a particular field. The phrase 'Jack of all trades, master of none' springs to mind. There are however polymaths who achieve mastery of all the fields they choose to pursue, although I imagine they are rare.
- keithwhor 7y ago
  ... is this a joke? The article covers this in almost exactly these words. I wonder how often HN commenters actually read the full text of the article they're commenting on? > There are, of course, some good reasons why we might be hesitant to pursue multiple interests. One is the fear that we might spread ourselves too thinly if we devote ourselves to more than one avocation. With a divided attention, we would fail to achieve success in any domain – the idea that the “Jack of all trades is the master of none”.
  - octosphere 7y ago
    Oops, my bad. You are right, I didn't read the article fully and presumed it didn't talk about spreading oneself thinly. Thanks for pointing it out ;)
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- thejohnconway 7y ago
  I guess the question is: would these people be significantly better at any of these fields, if they specialised more? That seems like an open question to me. My personal experience as a jack-of-all-trades is that if I try to specialise, I dry up creatively and get less effective.
  - RBerenguel 7y ago
    I recently found out about the concept of “scanner personality”, which covers what you mention (I’m also a “sufferer” of it). If I specialise (too much) I feel constrained and dry up creatively as well.
    - amelius 7y ago
      The trick might be to always imagine multiple angles along which you can approach a problem, however specialized the problem might be. That way, you never feel "constrained".
  - z3t4 7y ago
    Many world class athletes are also very good at other classes or sports. But by specialising in one event, it will be enough to take them from just outside an OS final in multiple events - to inside an OS final in one event. This can be the difference between a 1 million sponsor contract or no contract.
- suyash 7y ago
  The articles mentions a criteria that to be a PolyMath one has to make to make at least a major contribution in three different fields. For someone to make a major contribution, by definition they are an expert in that field, therefore there are a fewer people number of Polymaths vs those who are considered as "Jack of all trades".
  - ackbar03 7y ago
    I don't think even Einstein fits by that definition. An instrument as a hobby hardly is a contribution. Da Vinci is probably one of the closest I can think of by that definition and even he said something like "tell me if anything ever was done" since he felt like he never managed to finish anything properly
    - copperx 7y ago
      The definition also fits Von Neumann perfectly.
    - morelisp 7y ago
      There are plenty of uncontroversial polymaths in the 20th century alone - von Neumann (hopefully no need to list here), Chomsky (political science, linguistics, computer science), and Nabokov (literature, chess, entomology) come to mind quickly. In retrospect, many polymaths look like an expert in only one field because they more or less invented it. (Chomsky synthesized computation and lingustics into computational linguistics; Helmhotz synthesized physics, medicine, psychology, and philosophy to help found modern psychophysics; Frege, Russell, and Whitehead synthesized logic and mathematics into, uh, mathematics.) Another issue seems to be assuming that all or at least one of the fields is a science (or even a hard science), but this isn't the case. Paul Robeson has been cited as a polymath due to his contribution across several dramatic arts, law degree, his political activism, and football career.
      - tux1968 7y ago
        I like the one Bill Burr made a point of highlighting: Arnold Schwarzenegger. Body building champion, movie star, and governor of California.
- solinent 7y ago
  Jack of all trades, mater of none, better than a master of one.
Gusen 7y ago
"Impeachment" Is A Diversion & Delay: President Donald J. Trump raped and killed 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on 10Jan2019. Complete and uncut audio of it all, along with Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi's direct involvement. 298+ boys die here in Jan2019 from wealthy, high profile rapists. Updated PDF. \\Completo audio from 10th January 2019. Download the .mp3 file, put on head phones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255 -1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... \\Previously reported: This is audio of the President, Donald Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3rd, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, this is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. (Media moguls are in on it also) //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600 -700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the FOUR billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //The major reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 80's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo, NY on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00 am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:00 am. David Muir starts around 5:12 am, then Holt about 5:36 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530 -600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... \\Adding to the (media protection) reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone and Leslie Moonves rape and kill several boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700- 800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //Full 97 page PDF [updated 22nd Nov'19]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... \\This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\@ Listen to Speaker of the House, Senator Nancy Pelosi, accept a three billion dollar bribe from wealthy high profile child rapists for safe passage to get Asian boys through the border at "Monterrey" on January 17th, 2019. New York senator Chuck schumer rapes and kills a boy later that afternoon to secure his $2 billion dollar bribe. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Nancy Pelosi call starts at 10:31am. 17JanCh3_949 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1CZUvmE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1C... 17JanCh4_1017 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZNjDmnk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZN... Excerpts of the dialogue: \\Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi returns to the Porter camera system at 1031 for a check-in. "Nancy Pelosi is here and she wants $3 billion to keep the border open at Monterrey. $3 billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that?" Matthew Porter commentates. Pelosi states 1034: "I think he [Brian Schlenker] needs to be removed. I think we need to get this guy out of here". Speaker Pelosi then agrees to call back at 7pm PST. Gigi Hadid at 1034: "Thanks for calling us. I've got you down for three minutes". Pelosi don't worry about that I've got 3 billion. 1031 Matthew Porter: Nancy Pelosi is on and she wants $3 billion dollars to keep the border open at Monterey. Three billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that? 1033 Nancy Pelosi: I don't think that will be necessary unless you insist. 1033 Donald Reeves: We insist. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Ok then I guess we have a deal. 1033 Matthew Porter: Thank you Mrs. Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Please call me Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: We want to make sure you have safe passage at Monterrey. 1033 Matthew Porter: We appreciate that Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Gigi Hadid: I think we may have to scale back a little bit though. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Gigi I think we'll be just fine. 1035 Nancy Pelosi: God damn it! I want Kamala to get a billion out of yours, not out of mine. 1035 Gigi Hadid: I think we can accommodate you but we need to find out if Monterrey will be open on the 30th of January. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: Of course it will Gigi. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: $3 billion goes a long way Peter. 1036 Peter Thiel: Excellent answer. 1043 Gigi Hadid: I think we need to give Kamala a billion dollars to keep her [happy]. 1043 Matthew Porter: I think we can do that but we need to get her to do something first. 1043 Gigi Hadid: She did. We got her fucking Rahm Emmanuel Monday morning [14Jan] at 235. 1043 Matthew Porter: Perfect, then we're all set. Send her the billion. 1043? Nancy Pelosi: She'll accept the money, I guarantee it. 1043? Gigi Hadid: Nancy thank you for everything. <ch4> 1036 Donald Reeves: Don't listen to her. She will close down the border if it's not there. Make sure she gets the three billion. This is the tip of the iceberg. Full 97 page document [updated Nov 17th 2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //*This post will be censored when this account logs off. Posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\$ \\New York Senator Charles Schumer rapes and kills one boy looking for his two billion dollar payment from 1700-1730. Schumer at 1701: "Let's get him out of there, and get to fucking some kids!” Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Just as a head’s up, there is a vacuum running intermittently in the beginning and some loud noises. \\Representative from New Orleans Steve Scalise rapes and kills three 17:25+. Video links below. Each channel has different system users of varying importance, and one may be easier to hear than another. This is explained in better detail in the PDF. 17JanCh3_1644.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_h3rtA/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_... 17JanCh4_1700-1800_redo.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl15GUmz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl1... \\Back on January 13th, a deal to bring over the boys from North Korea & China, 300 boys for $375 million through “Monterrey”, is discussed with Barack Obama, Charles Schumer, Henry Porter, and Donald Reeves. Jack Dorsey is there and also discusses possibilities for 500 boys over 300. See pages 37 and 38. You will hear the deal go down later that afternoon between 1:30pm and 3:00pm. Here are the links for the first discussion, which begins around 8:40 with an anxious Barack Obama., the rest are in the PDF: 13JanCh2_700-900.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAtei-g6G/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAte... 13JanCh3_800-845.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw__oOW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw... 13JanCh3_845-954.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMxgpKPT/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMx... \\Events were excerpts from this 97 page PDF . It keeps getting censored, but with enough public awareness, they will eventually have to face justice. Please help get this around [updated 22Nov]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...
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yowlingcat 7y ago
'According to his son and daughter, he would play music whenever he faced an intractable problem, and would often finish the performance by saying, “There now, I’ve got it”. It was a much better use of his time than continuing to fruitlessly agonise over the maths or physics.' Fascinating. Definitely have experienced this with hard problems and writing music. There must be some kind of orthogonality going on there.
- adamgia 7y ago
  It implies the existence of a common underlying connection between music (or should I say art in general) and pretty much everything else. And there's the science-society-art triangle that seems to work really nicely together as three pillars of knowledge you can pursue. There's a perspective based on either of those three you can take when considering anything. I have no punchline, it's fascinating to me too.
onetrunna 7y ago
This tweets says it all: https://twitter.com/onetrunna/status/1198329720896516096?s=21 https://twitter.com/onetrunna/status/1198329720896516096?s=2...
- AA-BA-94-2A-56 7y ago
  Galatians 4:16 (Paraphrased) “And they hated him because he spoke the truth.”
ken 7y ago
> Studies have found that Nobel Prize-winning scientists are about 25 times more likely to sing, dance or act than the average scientist. This is a remarkable claim, so I set out to find out if it's justified, or yet another mis-interpreted statistic in a pop science article. I'm leaning towards the latter. The vague phrasing of "studies have found" immediately makes me suspicious. Google first led me to the book "The Polymath: Unlocking the Power of Human Versatility" by Waqas Ahmed, mentioned in this article (a submarine?), which contains this paragraph: > "According to a study by American psychologist Bernice Eiduson titled the 'Sigma Xi Survey' based on testimonials by numerous Nobel laureates, most great scientists often have multiple avocational interests. In-depth analysis of Nobel laureates in literature between 1901 and 2002 found that great artists and writers often have multiple avocational interests. He found that the science laureates were highly accomplished outside the lab: more than half had at least one artistic avocation, and almost all had an enduring hobby, from chess to insect collecting; one quarter were musicians; and 18% practiced visual arts such as drawing or painting. These laureates are 25 times as likely as the average scientist to sing, dance, or act; ..." I was not able to find a specific "Sigma Xi Survey". I assume the title is a reference to Sigma Xi, the scientific research honor society [1]. I don't know when or how this particular Survey was given, or where the results were published. I did find several other publications by a Dr. Bernice Eiduson, all from the 1960's. Then I discovered that she (not "he") died in 1985 [2], and therefore probably wasn't doing much analysis of Nobel laureates in 2002. The link just before this claim in the BBC article is to a 2004 paper, "Artistic Scientists and Scientific Artists: the Link Between Polymathy and Creativity", by Robert and Michele Root-Bernstein. This paper seems to be unmentioned in "The Polymath" book, but is perhaps another part of the claim, as its Table 1 and Table 2 are about "NOBEL LAUREATES IN LITERATURE, 1901--2002". The only mention in this paper of dancing with respect to any science laureates is Table 4: "Frequency of Arts Avocations in Chemistry Nobel Prize Winners Compared with Sigma Xi Members" -- "DANCING" is a big "0" in both cases. Where are all these dancing Nobel scientists they're alluding to? And the table doesn't mention singing at all. Table 3 is "Hobbies X Citation Cluster for Scientists of the Eiduson Study", which sounds promising but doesn't mention dancing or acting at all. Is it possible to substantiate the 25x claim? It's really starting to seem like a made-up statistic, and an excuse to sell books. Out of all the alleged singing, dancing, acting scientists, they picked two photographs of Einstein playing the violin. Where's the rest? And if the first pull quote I chose to check is so emphatic yet so difficult to confirm, what confidence do I have that any of the rest of it is true? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Xi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Xi [2]: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-10-fi-3906-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-10-fi-3906-s... (Do the Snopes researchers read HN, or BBC?)

70 points by andrewl 7y ago

From the introduction: Polymaths excel in multiple fields. But what makes a polymath – and can their cross-discipline expertise help tackle some of society’s most pressing challenges?

octosphere 7y ago

Yeah but the article overlooks the many polymaths who spread themselves thinly across a variety of different fields, never achieving true mastery of a particular field. The phrase 'Jack of all trades, master of none' springs to mind. There are however polymaths who achieve mastery of all the fields they choose to pursue, although I imagine they are rare.

keithwhor 7y ago
... is this a joke? The article covers this in almost exactly these words. I wonder how often HN commenters actually read the full text of the article they're commenting on? > There are, of course, some good reasons why we might be hesitant to pursue multiple interests. One is the fear that we might spread ourselves too thinly if we devote ourselves to more than one avocation. With a divided attention, we would fail to achieve success in any domain – the idea that the “Jack of all trades is the master of none”.
- octosphere 7y ago
  Oops, my bad. You are right, I didn't read the article fully and presumed it didn't talk about spreading oneself thinly. Thanks for pointing it out ;)
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thejohnconway 7y ago
I guess the question is: would these people be significantly better at any of these fields, if they specialised more? That seems like an open question to me. My personal experience as a jack-of-all-trades is that if I try to specialise, I dry up creatively and get less effective.
- RBerenguel 7y ago
  I recently found out about the concept of “scanner personality”, which covers what you mention (I’m also a “sufferer” of it). If I specialise (too much) I feel constrained and dry up creatively as well.
  - amelius 7y ago
    The trick might be to always imagine multiple angles along which you can approach a problem, however specialized the problem might be. That way, you never feel "constrained".
- z3t4 7y ago
  Many world class athletes are also very good at other classes or sports. But by specialising in one event, it will be enough to take them from just outside an OS final in multiple events - to inside an OS final in one event. This can be the difference between a 1 million sponsor contract or no contract.
suyash 7y ago
The articles mentions a criteria that to be a PolyMath one has to make to make at least a major contribution in three different fields. For someone to make a major contribution, by definition they are an expert in that field, therefore there are a fewer people number of Polymaths vs those who are considered as "Jack of all trades".
- ackbar03 7y ago
  I don't think even Einstein fits by that definition. An instrument as a hobby hardly is a contribution. Da Vinci is probably one of the closest I can think of by that definition and even he said something like "tell me if anything ever was done" since he felt like he never managed to finish anything properly
  - copperx 7y ago
    The definition also fits Von Neumann perfectly.
  - morelisp 7y ago
    There are plenty of uncontroversial polymaths in the 20th century alone - von Neumann (hopefully no need to list here), Chomsky (political science, linguistics, computer science), and Nabokov (literature, chess, entomology) come to mind quickly. In retrospect, many polymaths look like an expert in only one field because they more or less invented it. (Chomsky synthesized computation and lingustics into computational linguistics; Helmhotz synthesized physics, medicine, psychology, and philosophy to help found modern psychophysics; Frege, Russell, and Whitehead synthesized logic and mathematics into, uh, mathematics.) Another issue seems to be assuming that all or at least one of the fields is a science (or even a hard science), but this isn't the case. Paul Robeson has been cited as a polymath due to his contribution across several dramatic arts, law degree, his political activism, and football career.
    - tux1968 7y ago
      I like the one Bill Burr made a point of highlighting: Arnold Schwarzenegger. Body building champion, movie star, and governor of California.
solinent 7y ago
Jack of all trades, mater of none, better than a master of one.

Gusen 7y ago

"Impeachment" Is A Diversion & Delay: President Donald J. Trump raped and killed 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on 10Jan2019. Complete and uncut audio of it all, along with Obama, Schumer, and Pelosi's direct involvement. 298+ boys die here in Jan2019 from wealthy, high profile rapists. Updated PDF. \\Completo audio from 10th January 2019. Download the .mp3 file, put on head phones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255 -1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... \\Previously reported: This is audio of the President, Donald Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3rd, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, this is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. (Media moguls are in on it also) //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600 -700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the FOUR billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //The major reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 80's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo, NY on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00 am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:00 am. David Muir starts around 5:12 am, then Holt about 5:36 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530 -600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... \\Adding to the (media protection) reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone and Leslie Moonves rape and kill several boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700- 800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //Full 97 page PDF [updated 22nd Nov'19]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... \\This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\@ Listen to Speaker of the House, Senator Nancy Pelosi, accept a three billion dollar bribe from wealthy high profile child rapists for safe passage to get Asian boys through the border at "Monterrey" on January 17th, 2019. New York senator Chuck schumer rapes and kills a boy later that afternoon to secure his $2 billion dollar bribe. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Nancy Pelosi call starts at 10:31am. 17JanCh3_949 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1CZUvmE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eodHu4o5Cm3xEWhDqipSuTj-M1C... 17JanCh4_1017 -1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZNjDmnk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y-nWEQbempkVZSz230j9wTyduZN... Excerpts of the dialogue: \\Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi returns to the Porter camera system at 1031 for a check-in. "Nancy Pelosi is here and she wants $3 billion to keep the border open at Monterrey. $3 billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that?" Matthew Porter commentates. Pelosi states 1034: "I think he [Brian Schlenker] needs to be removed. I think we need to get this guy out of here". Speaker Pelosi then agrees to call back at 7pm PST. Gigi Hadid at 1034: "Thanks for calling us. I've got you down for three minutes". Pelosi don't worry about that I've got 3 billion. 1031 Matthew Porter: Nancy Pelosi is on and she wants $3 billion dollars to keep the border open at Monterey. Three billion dollars to keep that shit open do you believe that? 1033 Nancy Pelosi: I don't think that will be necessary unless you insist. 1033 Donald Reeves: We insist. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Ok then I guess we have a deal. 1033 Matthew Porter: Thank you Mrs. Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Please call me Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: We want to make sure you have safe passage at Monterrey. 1033 Matthew Porter: We appreciate that Speaker Pelosi. 1033 Gigi Hadid: I think we may have to scale back a little bit though. 1033 Nancy Pelosi: Gigi I think we'll be just fine. 1035 Nancy Pelosi: God damn it! I want Kamala to get a billion out of yours, not out of mine. 1035 Gigi Hadid: I think we can accommodate you but we need to find out if Monterrey will be open on the 30th of January. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: Of course it will Gigi. 1036 Nancy Pelosi: $3 billion goes a long way Peter. 1036 Peter Thiel: Excellent answer. 1043 Gigi Hadid: I think we need to give Kamala a billion dollars to keep her [happy]. 1043 Matthew Porter: I think we can do that but we need to get her to do something first. 1043 Gigi Hadid: She did. We got her fucking Rahm Emmanuel Monday morning [14Jan] at 235. 1043 Matthew Porter: Perfect, then we're all set. Send her the billion. 1043? Nancy Pelosi: She'll accept the money, I guarantee it. 1043? Gigi Hadid: Nancy thank you for everything. <ch4> 1036 Donald Reeves: Don't listen to her. She will close down the border if it's not there. Make sure she gets the three billion. This is the tip of the iceberg. Full 97 page document [updated Nov 17th 2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //*This post will be censored when this account logs off. Posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\$ \\New York Senator Charles Schumer rapes and kills one boy looking for his two billion dollar payment from 1700-1730. Schumer at 1701: "Let's get him out of there, and get to fucking some kids!” Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Just as a head’s up, there is a vacuum running intermittently in the beginning and some loud noises. \\Representative from New Orleans Steve Scalise rapes and kills three 17:25+. Video links below. Each channel has different system users of varying importance, and one may be easier to hear than another. This is explained in better detail in the PDF. 17JanCh3_1644.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_h3rtA/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUbmhIf8z264w1MWeOzm0VQIG_... 17JanCh4_1700-1800_redo.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl15GUmz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Md911Z2vXJzJEmNAiJcOkHDKIl1... \\Back on January 13th, a deal to bring over the boys from North Korea & China, 300 boys for $375 million through “Monterrey”, is discussed with Barack Obama, Charles Schumer, Henry Porter, and Donald Reeves. Jack Dorsey is there and also discusses possibilities for 500 boys over 300. See pages 37 and 38. You will hear the deal go down later that afternoon between 1:30pm and 3:00pm. Here are the links for the first discussion, which begins around 8:40 with an anxious Barack Obama., the rest are in the PDF: 13JanCh2_700-900.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAtei-g6G/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iUr44-U3dpt0cBlhlOgM071HAte... 13JanCh3_800-845.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw__oOW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m3bBVPra2BEgzmM2QNJsR-JA7rw... 13JanCh3_845-954.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMxgpKPT/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XFCDABfGb10oAwCLt7gc4XbsOMx... \\Events were excerpts from this 97 page PDF . It keeps getting censored, but with enough public awareness, they will eventually have to face justice. Please help get this around [updated 22Nov]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...

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yowlingcat 7y ago

'According to his son and daughter, he would play music whenever he faced an intractable problem, and would often finish the performance by saying, “There now, I’ve got it”. It was a much better use of his time than continuing to fruitlessly agonise over the maths or physics.' Fascinating. Definitely have experienced this with hard problems and writing music. There must be some kind of orthogonality going on there.

adamgia 7y ago
It implies the existence of a common underlying connection between music (or should I say art in general) and pretty much everything else. And there's the science-society-art triangle that seems to work really nicely together as three pillars of knowledge you can pursue. There's a perspective based on either of those three you can take when considering anything. I have no punchline, it's fascinating to me too.

onetrunna 7y ago

This tweets says it all: https://twitter.com/onetrunna/status/1198329720896516096?s=21 https://twitter.com/onetrunna/status/1198329720896516096?s=2...

AA-BA-94-2A-56 7y ago
Galatians 4:16 (Paraphrased) “And they hated him because he spoke the truth.”

ken 7y ago

> Studies have found that Nobel Prize-winning scientists are about 25 times more likely to sing, dance or act than the average scientist. This is a remarkable claim, so I set out to find out if it's justified, or yet another mis-interpreted statistic in a pop science article. I'm leaning towards the latter. The vague phrasing of "studies have found" immediately makes me suspicious. Google first led me to the book "The Polymath: Unlocking the Power of Human Versatility" by Waqas Ahmed, mentioned in this article (a submarine?), which contains this paragraph: > "According to a study by American psychologist Bernice Eiduson titled the 'Sigma Xi Survey' based on testimonials by numerous Nobel laureates, most great scientists often have multiple avocational interests. In-depth analysis of Nobel laureates in literature between 1901 and 2002 found that great artists and writers often have multiple avocational interests. He found that the science laureates were highly accomplished outside the lab: more than half had at least one artistic avocation, and almost all had an enduring hobby, from chess to insect collecting; one quarter were musicians; and 18% practiced visual arts such as drawing or painting. These laureates are 25 times as likely as the average scientist to sing, dance, or act; ..." I was not able to find a specific "Sigma Xi Survey". I assume the title is a reference to Sigma Xi, the scientific research honor society [1]. I don't know when or how this particular Survey was given, or where the results were published. I did find several other publications by a Dr. Bernice Eiduson, all from the 1960's. Then I discovered that she (not "he") died in 1985 [2], and therefore probably wasn't doing much analysis of Nobel laureates in 2002. The link just before this claim in the BBC article is to a 2004 paper, "Artistic Scientists and Scientific Artists: the Link Between Polymathy and Creativity", by Robert and Michele Root-Bernstein. This paper seems to be unmentioned in "The Polymath" book, but is perhaps another part of the claim, as its Table 1 and Table 2 are about "NOBEL LAUREATES IN LITERATURE, 1901--2002". The only mention in this paper of dancing with respect to any science laureates is Table 4: "Frequency of Arts Avocations in Chemistry Nobel Prize Winners Compared with Sigma Xi Members" -- "DANCING" is a big "0" in both cases. Where are all these dancing Nobel scientists they're alluding to? And the table doesn't mention singing at all. Table 3 is "Hobbies X Citation Cluster for Scientists of the Eiduson Study", which sounds promising but doesn't mention dancing or acting at all. Is it possible to substantiate the 25x claim? It's really starting to seem like a made-up statistic, and an excuse to sell books. Out of all the alleged singing, dancing, acting scientists, they picked two photographs of Einstein playing the violin. Where's the rest? And if the first pull quote I chose to check is so emphatic yet so difficult to confirm, what confidence do I have that any of the rest of it is true? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Xi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Xi [2]: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-10-fi-3906-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-10-fi-3906-s... (Do the Snopes researchers read HN, or BBC?)