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I feel like I am taking crazy pills with the amount of good sentiment to this design. This thing is absolutely fugly. The guys over at Rivian must be having a p
by waiseristy 7y ago
I feel like I am taking crazy pills with the amount of good sentiment to this design. This thing is absolutely fugly. The guys over at Rivian must be having a party right now.
- MoZeus 7y agoYup
- mkhpalm 7y agoAgreed, it reminds me of alienware laptops. Had all these good specs but everybody was too embarrassed to be seen in public with one.
- bdamm 7y agoNothing some paint and a headlight rack can't fix.
- Scoundreller 7y agoI can’t wait to see one with a gunrack.
- tonyedgecombe 7y agoIn the next episode of Mad Max.
- friendlybus 7y agoIt's big, bad and punk hitting the current trends. In a decade we're going to look back on this and wonder what we were thinking.
- duderific 7y agoI'm wondering what they're thinking...right now.
- friendlybus 7y agoThey're planning to look 'futuristic' for 2024. This thing will launch in 2020 along with Cyberpunk 2077, and will have the rough edges shaved off it for 2024 when it lands on mars. Elon's oversight role will increase and the main thrust of the project will be handed over to someone who can 'make it big' and focus on creating a glut of average items on Mars in roughly the same style, that Elon validates. Then we will transition into a feminine, high quality style for 2028.
- fiblye 7y agoIt looks like some old cyberpunk idea of what the future would look like. For that, I love the design. But it’s absolutely hideous without taking it in the context of resembling sci-fi. The wheels just look goofy. Now if it concealed the tires, it’d look great. Just a solid block of metal. But it’d also be hell for maintenance.
- waiseristy 7y agoI love the idea of a perfect meme vehicle. Almost bosozoku like. But I'm guessing it won't do well in the market
- bamboozled 7y agoI think this car will be popular in Japan.
- fiblye 7y agoHuge vehicles are incredibly unpopular in Japan. The country is full of incredibly narrow lane-less roads that have traffic going both ways.
- godelski 7y agoIt would be cool to have if we were always in the smoke ridden neon illuminated world of Blade Runner. But outside of that I think it is pretty fugly.
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- varjag 7y agoGoofy? Having driven through rural America this summer, the thing will fall right in.
- cmdshiftf4 7y agoAs someone with a strong preference for a classical aesthetic I'm finding it hard to reason just how drawn to this vehicle I am. It's just so outrageously different, offers the functionality of both a truck and the tech and performance of a Tesla, and isn't comparable with other 'trucks' which I'd argue are homogeneous in nature, cliche, particularly un-aesthetically pleasing and are synonymous with gas-guzzling North American indulgence. Regardless, it's another instance of Musk pushing boundaries which I find myself continually applauding.
- 2muchcoffeeman 7y agoHow old are you? This Reminds of what we thought the future would look like in the 80s. I’d totally buy a reasonably priced car with this aesthetic.
- cmdshiftf4 7y agoBorn in the 80s but old enough to remember the end of them. If what you're saying is that in producing what is a very futuristic truck design, especially compared to the current market, that Musk is actually evoking a sense of nostalgia from a demographic likely to be the target market then I can't say I'd disagree.
- m463 7y agoThat's an interesting change from the 50's retro scifi look. Looks like Ark II style scifi from the 80s.
- riffraff 7y agothe fact it looks like a truck version of the DMC DeLorean doesn't help either.
- mixmastamyk 7y agoA delorean crossed with a big trak. Reminds me of the old battlestar galactica shuttles.
- jader201 7y agoIt looks like the attempt of a “futuristic” vehicle in an early 90’s low polygon video game. Reading these responses makes me think I’m out of the loop on some joke. Seriously. I had no doubt when I came to the discussion that all the comments would be about how ugly it is. Maybe this is one of those white/gold vs. black/blue dress things. Or the “yanni” thing. I’m blown away by any of the comments that find the design appealing.
- sincerely 7y ago>It looks like the attempt of a “futuristic” vehicle in an early 90’s low polygon video game. In a world where every manufacturer makes cars that look basically the same as every other car in the world, I'm fucking stoked on this.
- riffraff 7y agothey don't, people just buy similar looking models because weird cars generally don't sell well, with some exceptions.
- sincerely 7y agoOk, please find me the two most different looking trucks that I can buy (no concept models).
- killjoywashere 7y agoChevrolet SSR vs AMG HMMWV pickup with SAM missile battery (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_SSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_SSR (2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humvee#/media/File:SAM-HMMWV.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humvee#/media/File:SAM-HMMWV.j...
- jsight 7y agoOTOH, the SSR had a foot bed? Its not like it was just a great truck that looked bad, it wasn't actually a good truck.
- 2804t3qwp 7y agoI think this really comes down to expectations. Imo, Tesla is a luxury brand. I get that some people feel like the Model 3 is a Tesla for the common man but the common man is either buying used or they're buying something that can be reliably fueled. That being said, and the reason for saying it, in the world of luxury brands idea matters too. The idea that an electric vehicle can compete on most of the spec sheet with a combustion/hybrid engine is sexy to people with futurist enthusiasms because electric things are being pushed as the sexy eco-friendly future right now. Obviously that's all just my own opinions, but I've yet to see much else to explain Tesla's balance sheets (plain incompetence isn't something I'm willing to buy into from the CEO that's working at innovating the astro services market as we speak).
- test6554 7y agoYea, it feels like a parody of a Tesla vehicle, especially when you see the interior.
- dwoozle 7y agoIt’s ugly but it’s different. People can see you have one from 8 miles away. That’s an essential part of a status symbol. Like the extremely ugly Louis Vuitton print.
- freeopinion 7y agoI think the $30000 price difference would put a lot of panic in that laugh if Rivian didn't have some insane pre-orders in the bag from Amazon.
- rasz 7y agoRivian pretty much is half Amazon, preorders from yourself dont count for much.
- freeopinion 7y ago100K guaranteed sales count for a lot. I'm sure Tesla would love it if their shareholders placed 100K orders for this new truck.
- Aloha 7y agoIt looks absurdly expensive to produce, and is ugly as sin.
- L_226 7y agoI agree, it looks like a stealth bomber fucked a Prius.
- gpderetta 7y agoA stealth bomber from the 70s! Apparently the F117 looks like that because they didn't have enough computational power to simulate more complex surfaces.
- syshum 7y agoYour not Crazy... I would buy a Rivian over this every day
- thdrdt 7y agoAnd the Rivian has a lot of smart features truck owners like. To me it looks like the Tesla is for people who want that truck and the Rivian for people who need a truck. And yeah imho the Cybertruck is very ugly. It looks like a copy of the Maserati Boomerang (1971) which was futuristic back then. But maybe Shirley Bassey was right: it's all history repeating.
- sundvor 7y agoBeauty must be in the eye of the beholder. This just screams FU gas at the top of its lungs. As a rider who hates breathing diesel particulates, I love it.
- hef19898 7y agoI know that design is totally subjective, but somehow this reminds of the Homer-Car design-wise. Is it just me or do a lot of the late Tesla / SpaceX designs look like a 7 year-old draw rockets and future-cars back in the 70s and 80s?
- abtinf 7y agoWe could probably learn a lot from 7 year olds. It is an incredible age. First grasp of reason and a real understanding of the world, and nothing has been beat out of them yet.
- Already__Taken 7y agoIt's kind of an f'off statement considering the electric mustang looks a lot like a tesla. I know it can't be, the design has come out too soon.
- rl3 7y ago>I feel like I am taking crazy pills with the amount of good sentiment to this design. This thing is absolutely fugly. The funny part to me is that this design is something I saw often maybe 20 years ago. It's the stereotypical future car that major automotive design departments often came up with, and sketched up in programs like Alias AutoStudio, back when it was still Alias. None of the designs ever saw prototypes let alone production, I'm guessing largely because they were too radical for the time and thus seen as too risky. It's like it's half future car of the early 2000s, and the other half a nod to DeLorean. Flash forward to 2019, the world's falling apart and going crazy at the same time, things feel a lot more surreal, advancements are becoming too numerous for the average person to keep track of, AI is a big deal, smartphones and all manner of tech are just a boring fact of life now, and as always the future is right around the corner, but for real this time. Likewise, 80s and early 90s nostalgia is in vogue right now. Cyberpunk 2077 is nearing release. For the target audience of this car, they remember the 80s because they either grew up in it or lived it. When you lay eyes on this thing, you immediately go "What the fuck, is that a real car?" I can think of no better marketing. It's a rather genius design in my opinion, a retrofuture tribute to a future that never was, but now is. Analysis aside, I tend to agree with you: it's pretty ugly, but for some reason I really like it.
- ianai 7y agoThe look grows on me the more I look at the model. I’m used to thinking trucks are fugly, though. They’re often gigantic rectangles that I associate with noise and function over form. This is definitely more progressive looking than the blocky designs I see on the road.
- sgc 7y agoI personally hope it fails and they redesign since I don't want to be forced to drive around in a city with a bunch of these on the street - they are that ugly to me, viscerally ugly. And I waited for the better part of a year to watch yesterday's live stream, hoping they would get it right while worried they would miss the practical side of things after the odd choice on the model x doors which allow for no roof racks. meh. But the basic tech is phenomenal.
- hackbinary 7y agoIt looks like a DeLorean.
- ubercow13 7y agoThe current F150 is probably the ugliest car I’ve ever seen, but I understand that sells pretty well. Granted, I am not the target demographic.
- rasz 7y agoYou do know how G Wagon, the ultimate $ symbol, looks like, right?
- hef19898 7y agoMore or less still like the first generation of it?
- bwb 7y agoreally? I think it looks so awesome, like a car out of Halo!
- coldtea 7y ago>This thing is absolutely fugly. Fugly is in the eye of the beholder. To me this is an outstanding design, with crazy cool cyberpunk inspiration, and finally a fucking bold design move -- 99% of cars looking the same shit, even sports cars like Lamborginis sticking to the same designs since the 80s... I've had to see such an interesting take since the DeLorean....
- 72deluxe 7y agoThat's because the Lamborghinis from the 1970s and 1980s looked amazing!! Your opinion may vary somewhat
- short_sells_poo 7y agoThat's because the look of a Lamborghini is one of it's core signature elements. They could design a very nice looking car, but if it doesn't look like a Lamborghini, then a lot of their client base would be disappointed. You'll notice this pattern with many of the really high end cars. Some signature elements are always present and evolve only very slowly over time. You could call it the master stroke, it's what makes a particular brand distinct from others. This is deliberate and I for one like that. A complete newcomer can design whatever they want right away.
- King-Aaron 7y agoTen bucks says this thing has never seen a wind tunnel, which is strange for something that's meant to be energy efficient
- ptaipale 7y agoDesigned for suburban speeds - air resistance is not that important.
- spectrum1234 7y agoIt obviously is. The front is all the same angle.
- bobm_db 7y agoWhether you like it or hate it, you have to take your hat off to the Tesla marketing department. This thing is a meme on wheels. _Everyone_ is going to see this, have an opinion on it, and want to know what everyone else's opinion on it is.
- adriand 7y agoExactly right. It's polarizing. Very polarizing, if this comment thread is any indication. And the pole of people who absolutely love it will buy it. That group of people does not need to be large for this to be successful. This is a great example of the marketing strategy that advocates focusing on a small group of very passionate customers. If you can create a set of fanatical early adopters for a brand-new product, you're on your way to success. Very few products achieve immediate mainstream success and assuming that Tesla won't likely have the production capacity to meet mainstream demand anyway, this is a very smart play.
- Quequau 7y agoRivian and Bollinger both.
- Naracion 7y agoI had never thought I'd want a truck. This though is totally retro and I absolutely love it. Looks like Elon Musk is finally making stuff that's something Tony Stark would've created (aesthetically). Seems very Iron Man to me. Having grown up in the 90s with a dream of becoming an automotive designer one of my favorite designs was that of the Lamborghini Countach (1974). The Cybertruck design is reminiscent of that design (to me), and I think that's one of the reasons it's drawing me in so strongly.
- sage3 7y agoI guess taste really is subjective because this is the best looking truck I have seen in my life
- jrockway 7y agoMy initial thought was that I could probably sketch this thing in CAD in like ten seconds. Rectangle. Triangle. Extrude. I'm sure the person at Tesla to whom that task was assigned enjoyed that aspect of the design.
- agumonkey 7y agoYes it's not "right", fugly is relative to context, trends can make something fugly pretty. It's on the extreme-limit side of the spectrum. It's probably gonna have enough buyers to have its place IMO.
- growlist 7y agoI love it. It's like one of the 'all sharp angles and super futurey and stuff!' cars from an 80s sci-fi film, where they've taken the body off a real car and welded up some ludicrous replacement. I mean why not FFS - have you seen what Chinese tastes are doing to BMW's grills?
- otikik 7y agoI'm not a design expert by any amount. But I really like its shape. Maybe it's because I was an 80s child. It's like Robocop's car. The design attracts me much more than the more ... conventional, rouded? Tesla vehicles.
- fergie 7y agoSome people won't "get it", and thats OK.
- DennisP 7y agoI think it's genius. A lot of pickup truck owners seem to feel that trucks are manly and Tesla owners are wimps. This post-apocalyptic nightmare of a truck will make it hard to keep feeling that way. I hope they've included biodefense mode.
- trixie_ 7y agoThis is a really good point. Hard for others to make fun of your fancy tree hugging electric truck when it looks like that.
- userbinator 7y agoIt reminds me of a Prius and the other early EVs that weren't very popular exactly because they stood out in a bad way. I think part of Tesla's appeal is that their cars look mostly "normal", so to have this ridiculous stand-out design is unusual.
- ehnto 7y agoI find it hard to believe the typical market for pickups would actually find this an attractive vehicle as well. I keep seeing "Masculine" referring to the design, but this looks like a fairly poor attempt at superficial masculinity, and definitely not a genuinely rugged and practical vehicle, which is what is generally considered attractive in a pickup or offroad vehicle. Purpose is the aesthetic, rather than aesthetics being the purpose.
- eternalny1 7y ago> definitely not a genuinely rugged and practical vehicle Why would you say that? I think its ugly but maybe if all trucks looked this way we'd think the current ones are the ugly ones. I'd say it looks like this BECAUSE it's rugged and practical.
- ehnto 7y agoThere doesn't seem to be a practical reason for it to look the way it does, so I doubt it looks that way because it's more practical. For one, the roofs angle is counter-intuitive if you intend to put a roof rack or other kinds of utility racks over the roof or roof and tray. The rear tray also has sides that go up to the roof. How are you supposed to put stuff in and out from the side of the tray? That's a pretty common use case, ignored for aesthetics. If the panels are aluminium, it's going to get roughed up pretty quickly in the tray sides and top parts as well. The rear tray is also looks smaller than the renderings make it out to be. They have a quad in one picture that takes up the full length and then a sleeping fitout in another that also takes up the full length, either it's a really long quad or they are really short people. I'm sure this will become more fleshed out over time, I doubt this is the final specification for the car. I can't wait to see all the different renderings people come out with, to show potential aftermarket parts for this thing. I think that will be the real display of whether or not it will make for a good utility vehicle. I can imagine this looking extremely purposeful and rugged with the right equipment on it.
- grecy 7y ago> The guys over at Rivian must be having a party right now Except the base Tesla is $20,000 cheaper than the base Rivian. The High end Telsa (with 500+ miles of range and 2.9 0-60) is the same price as the base Rivian. Rivian are shitting themselves right now about pricing.
- AgloeDreams 7y agoHonestly this could be a brilliant strategy to destroy competition if I didn't think they were so inept.
- grecy 7y agoWhat makes you think they are inept? The Model S has been awarded as one of the best vehicles ever made, and has the highest safety rating of any car ever made. Same for the Model X, and the Model 3. Why do people still think Tesla "can't do it" when they already have, time and again?
- AgloeDreams 7y agoI agree with all of what you are saying. But, the truck shown lacks wipers or side mirrors, it has a brake light on the tailgate (illegal in the US so the design they ship will need an entirely different rear design due to the 100% width tailgate), they didn't actually test their glass before smashing it twice on stage, the most common pick up designs are single cab, not crew cab but their design is not adaptable to a single cab design, the bed is shorter than the F150's, Rear visibility is much worse than competition(in fairness the AP cameras will help), they are back to the Roadster's Yoke Style steering wheel which has been proven to be unsafe (as it lacks grab points and is uncomfortable for one handed use (you can't 10 and 2 it)). It very clearly is half baked and an attempt to hit every one of a set of crazy goals much like the Roadster 2 when they should be trying to just ship 1.0. This is Model X all over again, it will be late, over promised to the point where they will spend crazy money making it actually happen and when it does ship it will lose money because it costs too much to make. To be clear, I think it looks freaking awesome and I would love to own one. I also think they still have not shipped the Roadster or Semi, the Model S and X refresh is next year and the Model Y is still a year plus away even though it shares most parts with the 3. This is the same story as Apple's iOS 13 launch, they have packed their schedule with cars to finish while building a bunch of new factories, while just a year ago they were taking all of Tesla Solar's employees and putting them on the model 3 R&D line. I'm bearish on this not because I hate what they have done in the past but because I want them to actually succeed mass market and be stable. Keep in mind, the truck market is supposed to be a larger market in the US (but more than 2X) than the Model 3's segment. Why can't they just ship a good, shippable, profitable truck with Tesla's DNA? It's like the falcon doors, a bit power mad, in a year this is going to be the example people use to say why Elon should not be CEO of Tesla and it sucks, because Elon at his best is probably the best CEO around, at his worst he will trash the company for a cool looking truck.
- gt565k 7y agoew the rivian design looks 10x worse than the tesla one
- seph-reed 7y agoI think you're just too used to the kool-aid. From an engineering perspective, curvy cars are a disgusting PIA. There's no way to work on them without special tools, every dent is a big deal... they're like long fake painted nails: a total hinderance to work. This car looks like I could beat the fuck out of it and the fix it with a sheet of metal and either a welder, some bolts, or some rivets. I see beauty in adaptability, which is something modern cars have none of.
- josephpmay 7y agoUgly is the purpose. And I fucking love it.
- xenocyon 7y agohttps://wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum https://wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum
- unethical_ban 7y agoI don't like the tail end look - I wish they had kept the tailgate mostly vertical. However, if the marketing is to be believed re: the shape of the vehicle lending itself to its safety and strength, then I see beauty in function.
- Greg-J 7y agoThe Rivian is so uninteresting though. It's small and dainty and looks like a Honda, which isn't a good thing for a truck.