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When I was in grad school our department had a meeting every morning where we could get together to discuss the latest papers which we called "Morning Coffee" (
by antognini 7y ago
When I was in grad school our department had a meeting every morning where we could get together to discuss the latest papers which we called "Morning Coffee" (or also Astro Coffee). These discussions were pretty fruitful and regularly would inspire new papers.
After writing a new paper based on one of these discussions one of the professors decided to commemorate the contribution of Morning Coffee to the paper and added "M. Coffee" as an author. At some point word got out that M. Coffee was not a real person. From what I understand the journal got very upset. Nevertheless, the original author list still stands:
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001ApJ...556L..59P/abstract https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001ApJ...556L..59P/abstra...
- gimmeThaBeet 7y agoTo be fair, being ground up and having boiling water poured on you isn't completely unlike grad school.
- wallace_f 7y agoHaving worked on farms, with mechanics, and with grad students, I tend to believe grad students exaggerate their misery. While not always true, most grad students I know tend to have relatively good careers, which they are comparing grad school to. They also tend to be, relatively speaking, born into good fortune with finances and healthy families. This is not universally true, of course, but more often the case than with my coworkers in aforementiones manual labor jobs.
- whorleater 7y agoEvery friend I have with a job that involves picking up something heavier than a laptop more than twice a week eventually finds a way to slip something like this into conversation: “Bro, you don’t work hard. I just worked a 4700-hour week digging a tunnel under Mordor with a screwdriver.” They have a point. Mordor sucks, and it’s certainly more physically taxing to dig a tunnel than poke at a keyboard unless you’re an ant. But, for the sake of the argument, can we agree that stress and insanity are bad things? Awesome. Welcome to ~~programming~~ grad school. from the classic "Programming Sucks" article.
- wallace_f 7y agoMy programming job was really hard, and a lot harder than grad school in econ. I personally think domain matters a lot.
- EthanHeilman 7y agoThis is true. I think a lot of complaining about grad school comes from four areas: 1. As you point out people who become grad students are often fortunate people. They already have a college degree. They are able to do well enough at school to be accepted into a graduate program. This usually means that they could be getting paid 2-15X more while doing far less work at an industry job. So in comparison grad school is miserable. 2. Unlike a top high-skill job grad school is a uncertain career track. You can find out that you spent between 3-12 years of our life with very little to show for it researching something it turns out no one, including you, cares about. The uncertainty gets to some people. 3. PhD programs can place an enormous amount of pressure on the student to be independent, have new ideas and execute those ideas well. This can be a frightening experience. 4. In some fields very strange workloads placed on the student. For instance in some labs students run experiments that require performing a task every 40 minutes for 36-72 hours straight. If the task is not performed perfectly weeks of work is lost. The experiment might involve dangerous chemicals. This is like being a long haul trucker or sound engineer.
- tasogare 7y agoAlso 2': you come in grad school to work on thing A, sub-thing B with method/tool C and your advisor makes you work on thing X, sub-thing Y with tool Z. Working on something you don't really care is way harder and a bit soul crushing. 3': you can be in a situation were you are micro-managed and required to do tasks for your advisors slightly or not even related to your subject. In my lab we have two weekly meetings, and during the Friday on everyone need to report. I feel spending more time doing powerpoint than research.
- lkschubert8 7y agoTo your point about 2 I would say that the latter half probably applies to the majority of the working population.
- esotericn 7y agoWhich probably means that they're not exaggerating their misery. The human experience is relative. If you're stronger than you were before you feel strong. If you're poorer than you were before you feel poor. Manual labour jobs have about as much bearing on how a graduate student feels about their day to day as does a gazelle being eaten by a lion.
- pbhjpbhj 7y agoI'm not sure about your conclusion. If you've never been eaten by a lion (!) then getting a scratch from a bramble seems like hardship.
- Ntrails 7y agoThe reality is that my frame of reference for discomfort and yours are different. Hunger is a great example. Plenty of people around the world subsist with hunger as a common companion. Others maintain it's _impossible_ to do anything useful whilst hungry. > Take yourself for instance; yesterday you were better off than you are off today but it took today for you to realize it. But today has arrived and it's too late.
- SkyBelow 7y agoCoffee, M. has published 7 different papers. https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/search/q=author%3A%22Coffee%2C%20M.%22&sort=date%20desc%2C%20bibcode%20desc&p_=0 https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/search/q=author%3A%22Coffee%2C...
- skissane 7y agoMost of the M. Coffee papers are actually by two real medical researchers with that surname, one called Megan and the other called Michelle.
- SkyBelow 7y agoI was wondering what happens when someone has the same surname and same first initial. I was hoping it has some way of telling them apart, but it seems I was hoping for too much.
- nemoniac 7y agoIf you're in Astronomy, you may be amused to read that there is some intriguing history on virtual authors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpher%E2%80%93Bethe%E2%80%93Gamow_paper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpher%E2%80%93Bethe%E2%80%93G...
- pmiller2 7y agoDon’t forget Alan Smithee, a pseudonym used when a director wants to disclaim credit for a film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Smithee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Smithee Doron Zeilberger, a mathematician, coauthors papers with his computer, which he refers to by the name Shalosh Ekhad: http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/ekhad.html http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/ekhad.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doron_Zeilberger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doron_Zeilberger
- bonzini 7y agoYou may appreciate the story of Dr. Bestiale and the 14 updates to the story. https://www.parolacce.org/2014/10/05/the-true-story-of-stronzo-bestiale/ https://www.parolacce.org/2014/10/05/the-true-story-of-stron... (Regarding one of the updates, the name of the antenna also means "cool antenna" in Italian, it's very informal but not vulgar).
- roywiggins 7y agoIf it's good enough for Nicolas Bourbaki...
- buboard 7y agois coffee really the PI ?
- telotortium 7y agoF.D.C. Willard was a much more subtle version of this joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._D._C._Willard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._D._C._Willard
- CrazyCatDog 7y agoThis is awesome! Thank tut so much for sharing, I’ll be looking for that cat in East Lansing tomorrow
- atomic_rabbit 7y agoAndre Geim (Nobel and Ig Nobel laureate) named an animal co-author, H.A.M.S. ter Tisha, in a 2001 paper about diamagnetic levitation. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921452600007535 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092145260...