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Man, the comments here are depressing. So much cynicism in one place. Workers protests have been successful in the past (guess why you work 8h a day and have 2

Man, the comments here are depressing. So much cynicism in one place. Workers protests have been successful in the past (guess why you work 8h a day and have 2-day weekends?). I don't see why you criticise the employees that try to make their company better. They don't need to and don't have to threaten they'll quit, they don't have to leave for non-profits. They can protest from within the company and try to make it better. Quitting is not the only way company can feel there's a problem. Lower morale of the team, fewer new ideas and initiatives coming from employees - these are visible things, and can make a change. How big a change? How successful change? I don't know, but I support the fact that people are trying. Even if they still get their salaries and still work at Google.

gimmeThaBeet 7y ago
Call me cynical every day of the week and twice on sundays, I'm critical because at this point, a letter doesn't feel like they are taking much ownership of the issue. People wanted those benefits for themselves, and there's little question of trying to reap benefits for one's self and then push the potential downsides elsewhere. I realize climate change is a broad societal issue that does indeed heavily involve externalizing costs to society, but I think it's difficult to dispute that the ideal scenario would have no impact on them, and when it comes to Google's business and other employees, the outcomes probably slant negative. Are there employees who don't mind working with energy companies? Are there people who explicitly don't want to limit Google's customer base? Do they make Google worse? Should we be critical of them?
rapsey 7y ago
> I don't see why you criticise the employees that try to make their company better. “better” is an entirely relative term.
- raxxorrax 7y ago
  Closer to perfection nonetheless.
  - dgudkov 7y ago
    What's the perfection then? What's the ultimate ethic company would be like?
nabla9 7y ago
The title says "protesting" but that's not what is happening. Group of workers they made a request and wrote a letter asking for release a company-wide climate plan that commits to cutting carbon emissions entirely. The most depressing thing is that people don't read the articles posted.
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
> guess why you work 8h a day and have 2-day weekends? Isn't this more work than was typical at most points in history?

gimmeThaBeet 7y ago

Call me cynical every day of the week and twice on sundays, I'm critical because at this point, a letter doesn't feel like they are taking much ownership of the issue. People wanted those benefits for themselves, and there's little question of trying to reap benefits for one's self and then push the potential downsides elsewhere. I realize climate change is a broad societal issue that does indeed heavily involve externalizing costs to society, but I think it's difficult to dispute that the ideal scenario would have no impact on them, and when it comes to Google's business and other employees, the outcomes probably slant negative. Are there employees who don't mind working with energy companies? Are there people who explicitly don't want to limit Google's customer base? Do they make Google worse? Should we be critical of them?

rapsey 7y ago

> I don't see why you criticise the employees that try to make their company better. “better” is an entirely relative term.

raxxorrax 7y ago
Closer to perfection nonetheless.
- dgudkov 7y ago
  What's the perfection then? What's the ultimate ethic company would be like?

nabla9 7y ago

The title says "protesting" but that's not what is happening. Group of workers they made a request and wrote a letter asking for release a company-wide climate plan that commits to cutting carbon emissions entirely. The most depressing thing is that people don't read the articles posted.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

> guess why you work 8h a day and have 2-day weekends? Isn't this more work than was typical at most points in history?