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Problem is that only people or companies with deep pockets can violate the law that way. If you don’t have money for lawyers you have to pay the tickets. That’

Problem is that only people or companies with deep pockets can violate the law that way. If you don’t have money for lawyers you have to pay the tickets. That’s how end up with a two class society where some people are above the law.

Consultant32452 7y ago
I don't know what it's like in NY, but in my state you can take a driver safety course and cut your fees down considerably.
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  If taking such a driver safety course actually meant that people didn't park illegally, then it'd be a huge success, and would be well worth it. But the not parking illegally part itself would be by far the greatest reduction in fines.
- nradov 7y ago
  That's for moving violations, not parking tickets.
- masonic 7y ago
  For non-moving violations?
Spooky23 7y ago
Oh no, there are plenty of loopholes. It’s actually easier for a shady operator to operate than a legit one, deep pockets or not! Parking tickets are tagged to a car, not the owner. So when you don’t pay in NY, your registration is suspended. Guess what? Bad operators don’t register in NY! (Rental/Lease fleets are registered in Arizona and Indiana, who are “business friendly” for this reason.) Legit companies get a type of permit that can be suspended. But your shady contract delivery people flaunt these rules and disappear/reincorporate if they get caught. That’s why the Amazons of the world are moving away from UPS/USPS/Fedex. The contract people are the bottom rung of society and agree (out of ignorance) to take on liability that an actual business would price into their rates. (This includes stuff like making sure the brakes work on the truck or that the driver is licensed, not just parking tickets)
- imtringued 7y ago
  Some truck companies make their employees pay for the truck lease. If workers can't finish enough deliveries then not only do they not get paid, they actually make a net loss. This means there is no lower bound for wages, if you exploit your workers diligently then you can get them to pay you for the privilege of working for you because they believe they will eventually receive ownership of the truck when the lease ends but they usually get fired before that happens. This has implications for the automation debate. Robots require electricity and need to be manufactured in the first place. This means you can't actually "exploit" robots the same way you can exploit workers who receive government support or support from relatives.
- icebraining 7y ago
  Why doesn't NY just impound the cars that haven't paid?

Consultant32452 7y ago

I don't know what it's like in NY, but in my state you can take a driver safety course and cut your fees down considerably.

CydeWeys 7y ago
If taking such a driver safety course actually meant that people didn't park illegally, then it'd be a huge success, and would be well worth it. But the not parking illegally part itself would be by far the greatest reduction in fines.
nradov 7y ago
That's for moving violations, not parking tickets.
masonic 7y ago
For non-moving violations?

Spooky23 7y ago

Oh no, there are plenty of loopholes. It’s actually easier for a shady operator to operate than a legit one, deep pockets or not! Parking tickets are tagged to a car, not the owner. So when you don’t pay in NY, your registration is suspended. Guess what? Bad operators don’t register in NY! (Rental/Lease fleets are registered in Arizona and Indiana, who are “business friendly” for this reason.) Legit companies get a type of permit that can be suspended. But your shady contract delivery people flaunt these rules and disappear/reincorporate if they get caught. That’s why the Amazons of the world are moving away from UPS/USPS/Fedex. The contract people are the bottom rung of society and agree (out of ignorance) to take on liability that an actual business would price into their rates. (This includes stuff like making sure the brakes work on the truck or that the driver is licensed, not just parking tickets)

imtringued 7y ago
Some truck companies make their employees pay for the truck lease. If workers can't finish enough deliveries then not only do they not get paid, they actually make a net loss. This means there is no lower bound for wages, if you exploit your workers diligently then you can get them to pay you for the privilege of working for you because they believe they will eventually receive ownership of the truck when the lease ends but they usually get fired before that happens. This has implications for the automation debate. Robots require electricity and need to be manufactured in the first place. This means you can't actually "exploit" robots the same way you can exploit workers who receive government support or support from relatives.
icebraining 7y ago
Why doesn't NY just impound the cars that haven't paid?