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Ask HN: What does mid level product manager comp look like in SF?
I'm interviewing with a non-FAANG that gave me a range of $250-$350k per year in SF for a product manager role. Is that average or low? This is with 5+ years of tech experience
- la6470 7y agoWat??? !!! ^^^ is that base salary or total compensation with stocks??
- exogeny 7y agoThat seems crazy high to me, personally.
- zzzcarrot 7y agoYeh but its specific to bay area. For bay area with the crazy taxes and living cost it's not as much as you'd think.
- imustbeevil 7y ago300K - (130K taxes) - (70K rent) - (10K food) - (40K w/e other expenses/spending) = still saving 50K/yr. Maybe that isn't as much as I'd think, but that sure looks like putting the 25th percentile's entire salary in the bank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States#Top_percentiles_of_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States...
- RickS 7y agoThat's at least a bit north of average, IME. PM friends of mine are in the 150-180 range for base pay. Can't speak to equity comp.
- zzzcarrot 7y agoThats total all in so including Base + RSU vesting per year + Bonus
- derangedHorse 7y agoI know it wasn’t one of your options, but I would say high (just going off what some of my PM friends make so I could be wrong).
- zzzcarrot 7y agoThats total all in so including Base + RSU vesting per year + Bonus. Is that what your all in make?
- FreakLegion 7y agoFor your YOE the low end of the range is somewhere between low and average, and the high end is high. Specific business and technology results should drive the negotiation though, not YOE. If YOE is your lever, I'd expect you to land in the bottom third. My sense of low and high here is relative to other offers, not compensation generally (i.e. what you'd find on levels.fyi). Plenty of people with roughly the same YOE make a lot more thanks to RSU appreciation.
- dalyons 7y agoI would agree, quite high, based on my PM friends too
- zzzcarrot 7y agoEven all in? That's not base
- pkaye 7y agoWhat is the base salary?
- zzzcarrot 7y agoNot sure as I don't have an offer. Thats total all in so including Base + RSU vesting per year + Bonus
- algaeontoast 7y agoDamn, I'm switching to product mgmt as soon as I can!
- zzzcarrot 7y agoThat's all in, not base lol so a lot of it is stock
- quantisan 7y agoTry this https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Facebook,Microsoft&track=Product%20Manager https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Facebook,Microsoft&tr... You can add location and experience filters.
- mceachen 7y agoJust FYI, unless the company is eminently filing for an IPO, or is already public, I would not include RSU as a liquid benefit. It is (unfortunately) likely that the stock will be worth something approximating zero in a couple years, rather than maintaining or increasing from the current funding valuation. You should also consider burn rate, current runway, and health of competition.
- zzzcarrot 7y agopublic company
- ultrasaurus 7y agoIt's on the higher end for 5 years, but it depends on a lot of factors -- if you're really concerned it's low, get multiple offers.