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Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board
- pbreit 7y agoThat's...weird. Of all the boards Cook could serve on, or not on, he chooses to join a random Chinese business school? It's hard not to think there's a quid pro quo going on because it seems completely unnecessary otherwise. Would be great to see Apple make further progress on manufacturing elsewhere.
- alephnerd 7y ago> Tim Cook will work closely with Chinese government officials to promote Tsinghua University's economics and management school Tsinghua is not a random Chinese school - it’s China’s Harvard.
- chronic829 7y ago> Tsinghua is not a random Chinese school - it’s China’s Harvard. But it's still not Harvard. The question is, "Why not Harvard? Or any other top school in the US?"
- devy 7y ago> The question is, "Why not Harvard? Or any other top school in the US?" Because Hardvard or "any other top school in the US?" didn't invite Tim Cook to be the on their board?
- toasterlovin 7y agoBecause China is important. And, unlike the Arab oil producers, China actually has the human capital to create a university that competes with Harvard for prestige. Get used to stuff like this. Tim Cook is about 10 steps ahead of everybody who gives him a hard time for how Apple deals with China.
- wolco 7y agoWhy now? Are they using Tim Cook or is he a visionary?
- toasterlovin 7y agoIt's mutually beneficial. The university gains the prestige of having the CEO of one of the world's largest companies on their board. And it allows Tim Cook to be on the board of one of China's most prestigious university. See my other replies down thread for why doing this in China specifically is important.
- weberc2 7y agoCan you elaborate on the importance and how that factors into Apple’s strategy? Saying that China is important and Tim Cook is Very Smart doesn’t make for a very enlightening comment nor a suitable rebuttal. If you’re onto something, I’d like to know what! :)
- sremani 7y agoCost of doing business. Hedging a no deal scenario.
- toasterlovin 7y agoChina is already Apple's second largest market. Right now China's GDP per capita is about $9,600. South Korea has a GDP per capita of about $31k and Japan has a GDP per capita of about $39k. Assuming that China reaches those levels at some point in the not too distant future (which seems likely given cultural and genetic similarities), China will be Apple's largest market. And they will be where Apple manufactures most of its products. At that point, China will be as important to Apple as the U.S., possibly more so. This is the long game that Tim Cook is playing.
- puranjay 7y agoTim Cook is 10 steps behind if you look at the rest of the board members list. Elon Musk, Zuckerberg, Nadella, all have already found a spot on the board.
- OnlineGladiator 7y ago> Anything that's the "something" of the "something" isn't really the "anything" of "anything". -Lisa Simpson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5vN2XReWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5vN2XReWs
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- arthurcolle 7y agoTechnically that could still be random ;)
- rjzzleep 7y agoArguably serving on the board of a very powerful education institution can have way more positive influence on future generations than trade wars and sanctions. Now whether it will, that's a different story. A lot of countries rewrite their own history first in school and then elsewhere. It's hard to deny the influence Harvard has on US foreign and internal policy. You don't even need to influence many people to have lasting change on the world in the right education institutions. A handful is enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_schools_attended_by_United_States_Supreme_Court_Justices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_schools_attended_b...
- doctorpangloss 7y agoWhen has that ever happened in history?
- dbcooper 7y agoIt's their MIT. Peking University is their Harvard.
- olnluis 7y agoChecking both of these universities' websites, I see that they have social networks listed on their footers. Tsinghua's Facebook and Instagram accounts have been inactive for 2 years, but Peking's are active, both with posts from today. I find this interesting given the Chinese censorship of these sites. Sure, a VPN would work, but I would be pretty amused if Chinese educational institutions are actually bypassing the censors.
- teekno 7y agoWith high probability, the links on the website are outdated. I'm an international student at Tsinghua, and a lot our lot of English web presence is stale. Both of the official instagram [1] and facebook [2] accounts have posts from within the last 24 hours. On-campus IPV6 gets you a connection to most "banned" sites. Imagine trying to do research without google scholar? Aside from "sensitive" times (anniversary of tiananmen, 70th anniversary, etc.), it's relatively easy to hop the GFW from campus. [1] https://www.instagram.com/tsinghua_uni/ https://www.instagram.com/tsinghua_uni/ [2] https://www.facebook.com/pg/Tsinghua/posts/?ref=page_internal https://www.facebook.com/pg/Tsinghua/posts/?ref=page_interna...
- baybal2 7y agoSo the rumour of Qinghua uni shipping a VPN from under the counter is true then?
- teekno 7y ago¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The Schwarzman building has unrestricted internet without needing to jump through any hoops--just connect to the wifi and you're good to go. I don't _know_ that the uni is shipping a vpn, but...
- baybal2 7y ago> Tsinghua is not a random Chinese school - it’s China’s Harvard. Qinghua is more of an alternative central party school than Harvard. The amount of kids of all kinds of influential people there is over the top
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoPKU also. I think the cool kids mostly prefer PKU over more utilitarian Qinghua. I never really like the latter’s campus, way more sprawling and nowhere as nice as PKU across the street, but I’m biased.
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- willis936 7y ago>It's hard not to think there's a quid pro quo going on "The day before the advisory board meeting, Cook met with Xiao Ya-qing (肖亞慶), director of China’s State Administration for Market Regulation in Beijing. According to the bureau’s official website, "The two sides have conducted in-depth exchanges on expanding investment and business development in China, protecting consumer rights and fulfilling corporate social responsibility."
- netsharc 7y agoHaving recently watched how the Soviet Communist party worked in HBO's Chernobyl (one official showing the scientist the "Hero of the Soviet Union" award that he'll get if he testifies the way the party wants in Vienna), this stinks to me. But oh well, they didn't make him CEO of Apple to save the world (Hongkong specifically), they made him CEO so he cam maximize profits. Fuck Apple...
- droithomme 7y agoHow wonderful for Tim!
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- kylecazar 7y agoIt's hard to say whether to admire the disregard for potentially bad optics or not. Very tense times.
- alfiedotwtf 7y agoEh wat?
- gigatexal 7y agoI’m as diehard an Apple fanboy as they come but I might be in the market for a new ecosystem...
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- ReptileMan 7y agoWell the market has great abundance of laptops and mobile phones made in China. Make your choice :)
- bigpumpkin 7y agoA selection of other members of this university board: http://www.sem.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/aboutsem/advMem.html http://www.sem.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/aboutsem/advMem.html Henry M. Paulson, Jr. Chairman, Paulson Institute Former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Former Chairman and CEO, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. Mary T. Barra Chairman and CEO, General Motors Company Lloyd C. Blankfein Chairman of the Board, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. Carlos Brito CEO, Anheuser-Busch InBev Michael L. Corbat CEO, Citigroup Inc. Michael Dell Chairman and CEO, Dell Technologies Jamie Dimon Chairman and CEO, JPMorgan Chase & Co. Laurence D. Fink Chairman and CEO, BlackRock, Inc. Doug McMillon President and CEO, Walmart Inc. Elon Musk CEO, Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) CEO, Tesla, Inc. Satya Nadella CEO, Microsoft Brian L. Roberts Chairman and CEO, Comcast Corporation Ginni Rometty Chairman, President and CEO, IBM David M. Rubenstein Co-Founder and Co-Executive Chairman, The Carlyle Group David C. Schmittlein John C Head III Dean, MIT Sloan School of Management Stephen A. Schwarzman Chairman, CEO and Co-Founder, Blackstone Mark Zuckerberg Founder and CEO, Facebook
- socalnate1 7y agoThis is the only post that matters here. Thanks for providing the proper context to this (non) news.
- ridaj 7y agoYes. The fact that this is considered newsy enough to make it to the front page tells us more about the fever pitch China paranoia in these parts than about the actual news itself.
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- tanilama 7y agoThis news is from a highly opinionated Taiwan website. They had a narrative to push with anything they write.
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- campfireveteran 7y agoT R A I T O R. And, just like the NBA, Blizzard, Elon Musk and Hollywood, condoning random executions for organ harvesting and imposing China's totalitarian will and values on the rest of the world with their actions. If we don't resist now, the Western world will become even more Orwellian/Kafkaesque.
- devy 7y agoFor the record, School of Economics and Management (SEM) of Tsinghua University has always been having high caliber business leaders, Nobel Laureate, central bank governor and government officials on their board.[1] e.g. In fact, I doubt any school has a better advisory board than that of SEM of Tsinghua's, anywhere in the world. Even Hardvard / MIT / Yale's school dean/provost are on Tsinghua's board. If as an CEO, you aren't invited to the board and you want to be global, you are doing it wrong. Here is a partial list: - Lord Browne of Madingley, Chairman of Huawei UK - Henry M. Paulson, Jr., Former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, Former Chairman and CEO, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. - H. Lee Scott, Jr., Former President and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. - WANG Qishan, Vice-President, People’s Republic of China - Jim Breyer, Founder and CEO, Breyer Capital - Mary T. Barra, Chairman and CEO, General Motors Company - Lloyd C. Blankfein, Chairman of the Board, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. - Carlos Brito, CEO, Anheuser-Busch InBev - CHEN Jining, Mayor, Beijing Municipal Government - Elon Musk - Mark Zuckerberg - Michael L. Corbat, CEO, Citigroup Inc. - Michael Dell, Chairman and CEO, Dell Technologies - Laurence D. Fink, Chairman and CEO, BlackRock, Inc. - Geoffrey Garrett, Dean, The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania - Nobuyuki Idei, Former Chairman and Group CEO, Sony Corporation - Muhtar Kent, Chairman, The Coca-Cola Company - Henry R. Kravis, Co-Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer, KKR - Harald Krüger, Chairman of the Board of Management, BMW AG - Ramon Laguarta, CEO, PepsiCo - LIU He, yes the chief U.S.-Sino trade deal negotiator, Vice-Premier, State Council, People’s Republic of China - Jack Ma, Executive Chairman, Alibaba Group - Pony Ma, Core Founder, Chairman of the Board and CEO, Tencent - Doug McMillon, President and CEO, Walmart Inc. - Satya Nadella, CEO, Microsoft - Nitin Nohria, George F. Baker Professor of Administration Dean, Harvard Business School - Richard C. Levin Senior Adviser and Former CEO, Coursera President Emeritus, Yale University - Brian L. Roberts Chairman and CEO, Comcast Corporation - Ginni Rometty Chairman, President and CEO, IBM - David M. Rubenstein Co-Founder and Co-Executive Chairman, The Carlyle Group - David C. Schmittlein John C Head III Dean, MIT Sloan School of Management - Stephen A. Schwarzman Chairman, CEO and Co-Founder, Blackstone - Risto Siilasmaa, Chairman, Nokia Corporation Chairman and Founder, F-Secure Corporation - Kevin Sneader Global Managing Partner, McKinsey & Company - Masayoshi Son, Chairman and CEO, SoftBank Group Corp. - A. Michael Spence, Professor, Stern School of Business, New York University, 2001 Nobel Laureate in Economics - YI Gang, Governor, People’s Bank of China [1]: http://www.sem.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/aboutsem/advMem.html http://www.sem.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/aboutsem/advMem.html
- nafizh 7y agoGenuinely wondering, how many more Uighur Muslims have to die before associating with the Chinese Govt. becomes bad optics? I understand this is a Chinese university but we all know all entities in China serve the agenda of the Chinese Govt.
- thelittleone 7y ago> how many more Uighur Muslims Sadly it will take a LOT more. Public outrage has an increasingly high tipping point and a very short lifespan. Governments, Corporations, PR agencies all know this. Is the average person on the street even aware of the plight of the Uighur Muslims? Contrast that with the recent forest fires in Brazil.
- goatinaboat 7y agomany more Uighur Muslims have to die Consider that Western companies make a huge fuss about “diversity” over here but not one single one of them has ever hired an Uighur in China.
- ReptileMan 7y agoBetween 0 and infinity. As long as the people are just making noise on twitter they will be ignored. Problems require real struggle and sacrifice. So far nobody in the west is punishing those corporations by boycotts. Nobody is throwing all their made in China stuff on the street. Nobody is making million people marches on the Chinese embassies. Why should they change? Uighur Muslims are the latest cause celebre to feel good about how virtuous we are, not really solve their problems.
- thuideres 7y agoYou can call this a whataboutism, but if a million dead Iraqis hasn’t hurt the US reputation, then I doubt China is going to suffer too much of a hit to theirs. Especially since they are mainly locked up in internment camps, which many countries have, so they can’t push too hard without looking hypocritical.
- freeopinion 7y agoWhat do you call a publicly traded company that manufactures exclusively in China and expects more than 50% of their revenue to come from China within a short timeframe? Aren't they a Chinese company? I've long questioned if Toyota is really a Japanese company, but at least they have significant manufacturing in Japan. If Apple isn't already a Chinese company, they will be within a few short years. I personally don't have anything against buying non-USA products, so I don't mean this as a condemnation of Toyota or Apple. Just an observation. I consider the local Chinese restaurant to be an American business. I consider Apple to be a Chinese business.
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- sesuximo 7y agothe Chinese govt agrees
- paulcarroty 7y agoCool, why not? HK protesters aren't important, better get money&profits from Chinese university.
- tasogare 7y agoTsinghua University has an interesting history. When the republican party lost the civil war against the communists, some scholars (including the university president) left and recreated the university in Taiwan. That's why there is today the Tsinghua University [1] in China, and the National Tsing Hua University [2] in Taiwan, with really similar logo. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsinghua_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsinghua_University [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Tsing_Hua_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Tsing_Hua_University