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IPhone 3G is finally official
- noodle 18y ago$199 price tag, too on the 8s. not too bad, though i would've liked a dip in the monthly cost to boot.
- pchristensen 18y ago$199 without a carrier subsidy? That's the straight retail price? Wow!
- emmett 18y ago"Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately."
- noodle 18y agofor a unlimited-data-only package: old iphone: $399 + $20/mo * 24 mo = 880 TCO new iphone: $199 + $30/mo * 24 mo = 920 TCO new iphone "business" user: $199 + $45/mo * 24 mo = 1280 TCO RUH ROH
- hugh 18y agoIs a data-only package really only $20 a month? If so I'd be tempted to get an iPhone with a data-only plan and stick with my cheap prepaid for voice.
- noodle 18y agoiirc, yeah. i'm unsure if you can get it separately, as i've never tried to, but i think its a good point of comparison.
- alaskamiller 18y agoYou can't order data plan by itself.
- LPTS 18y agoWrong. Tell them you are deaf and can't use voice minutes (because you are friggin deaf) and they'll sell you a stand alone data plan.
- alaskamiller 18y agoLOL. You're a quick one. Good luck with that.
- wallflower 18y agohttp://www.wireless.att.com/about/disability-resources/text-accessibility-plan-for-iphone.jsp http://www.wireless.att.com/about/disability-resources/text-... "Customers will need to qualify for this plan by completing the disability certification forms." Visual Voice mail: "The visual voice mail interface allows a user to see who called without having to navigate a phone tree. This means a deaf or hard of hearing user wouldn't have to use a relay or other type of service to see who called and subsequently call them back." http://www.i711.com/my711.php?tab=2&article=245 http://www.i711.com/my711.php?tab=2&article=245
- snewe 18y agoThe more accurate comparison is the present-value of the series of cash flows. Assuming a 5% annual risk-free rate (that's actually high), the old iPhone is still cheaper: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBCygk5WFZ3xS06GS2OSfIg&output=html http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBCygk5WFZ3xS06GS2OSf...
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- jshen 18y agoNo 32GB version? I'm also curious what this means for the touch, both in terms of price and features.
- Readmore 18y agoI would suppose that the Touch will stay at it's current price but get a size increase right after that "Buy a Mac get an iPod" deal runs out.
- alaskamiller 18y agoBetter links: http://www.iphone.com http://www.iphone.com http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2NTQ http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iph...
- alaskamiller 18y agoFound out that AT&T has killed their revenue sharing plan and will be increasing the data plan from $20 to $30. The base iPhone plan will now be 70 bucks instead of 60. $10 increase * 24 months = $240 $399 old price - $199 new price = $200 Nice, save money upfront to pay 40 bucks more overall. I would have preferred expensive equipment cost and cheaper monthly costs.
- bkbleikamp 18y agoUnfortunately most people won't realize what's happening and will think "Price reduction!"
- zhyder 18y agoI wish there was a way for me to downvote something to show my displeasure :(. (I upvoted your post of course.)
- alaskamiller 18y agoIt's not proper etiquette to downvote or upvote because you're displeased. That's not what the moderation system is meant for.
- mattmaroon 18y agoMost customers would definitely prefer cheaper upfront cost and more in the long run. It's a consumer credit economy.
- ivankirigin 18y agoAmortizing the benefit fits better with periodic payments. It's easy to imagine getting $10 of increased benefit monthly if a site loads 3X as fast, with more accurate GPS. I don't like the lock-in though.
- brandonkm 18y agoI would really have liked to have seen a micro-sd slot somewhere. I may be picking one of these up, need to hear more reviews first.
- jotto 18y agostock price is down 4% at the moment. been quite volatile today though http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=aapl http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=aapl
- henning 18y agoit's been dragged down by bad news from other firms afaik.
- jws 18y agoApple's funny that way. Keynotes revealing new products and quarterly meetings announcing record breaking quarters usually drive their stock down. There was a time around 2000 that is was like clockwork. Now it isn't quite so reliable, but still a good bet.
- mrtron 18y agoApples stock price is ridiculous, and great news does seem to almost always drive the price down, especially if it is expected. It is one of the strongest companies with the riskiest stocks (and counter-intuitive swings) that I have followed.
- comatose_kid 18y agoThat's because the market already priced in the 3G announcement - I doubt that the price would have stayed up there unless there was a real surprise today.
- johns 18y agoThat new price means you won't be able to sell your existing one for very much.
- icey 18y agoI got very lucky. A bunch of us in our office (seven of us in total) all sold our iPhones for $350 each over the past 2 weeks... I'm definitely glad we did, because it just became impossible to sell the old ones for even a third of that.
- jonknee 18y agoAn office full of shysters. You should start selling the ice from the freezer to eskimos. Congrats on the sales though, that's pretty bad ass.
- icey 18y agoWell, every phone we sold went to someone on T-Mobile who wanted an iPhone. Since we had no problem jailbreaking & unlocking the phones, I suppose that added to the value.
- JimEngland 18y ago$199 for the 8GB phone itself, and then plans start at $70 per month including unlimited data and basic voice (450 minutes). Its very tempting, but I've read that many people are disappointed with the features. Everything seems great to me, any complaints here?
- inovica 18y agoI love mine. I had a Blackberry before and this (for me) is far superior. If there's an easy upgrade path to this new one then I'll upgrade. Disappointed the camera has stayed at 2mp though - I could have done with that being a higher res
- mdasen 18y agoIt's actually $60 for 450 minutes. If you think I'm nitpicking, making the same $10 mistake the other direction gets you 900 minutes for your $70. $60 - 450 minutes $80 - 900 minutes $100 - 1350 minutes Basically, for an additional $20/mo, you're getting unlimited data and 200 SMS - standard ATT rates with the only difference being that you don't get to choose data plan or no data plan. If you got a smartphone/treo/blackberry, you'd be paying more per month for data. Unlimited data for a blackberry adds $30/mo without any messaging. The cheapest PDA plan is $50/mo (but includes unlimited messaging). You just don't want to pay for data - neither do I, but this isn't Apple's fault. Data plans just add a lot to the monthly cost.
- redorb 18y agostill waiting for android phones to surface... anyone else? Then again perhaps I can get one for $200 and still wait ;)
- danielrhodes 18y agoI think Google's strategy is much better. Apple has tied itself to a device, whereas the software is really the important part. Obviously in the best of worlds, you would want to sell people the device+software like Apple is doing now. But in the long run, Google will probably benefit more because it doesn't matter what phone the Android is on. It will probably benefit users as well since you could switch between Android phones without a problem.
- streblo 18y agoHas the Android software actually been adopted by any phone providers? Until any big wireless corporations do, I'm not holding my breath.
- redorb 18y agohttp://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html shows sprint, tmobile and others... for making the phones, LG, HTC and Motorola. Note since you have to have a 2yr contract to get it for $199 I'm out; Im sick of closed, locked down mobile environments
- swombat 18y agoBenefit how? How is Google making money from Android? Apple's making money hand over fist from the iPhone. How's Google going to beat that?
- danielrhodes 18y agoIt's the same strategy that any software maker has: get your software on as many computers as possible. Obviously, after that, Google can figure out how to make money off Android...probably through ads. Given that the software is the most important piece (in my opinion), Apple has limited themselves by tethering it to one single device. In the future, that could be a serious constraint. They've done it in the past (OS X, etc.), and it hasn't worked out so well.
- watmough 18y agoI'm really impressed that proper GPS has been added. I think this will open all kinds of applications. Battery life on iPhone 1.0 is already fine for me. In practice, I dock it with my iMac about every 3 or so days and the battery never drops below half. Mainly I SMS my wife, and surf the web though. The 3G iPhone sounds even better. For me though, the biggest surprise of the keynote is that only 4000 developers are out there. I would expect this to rise as iPhone sales take off. $200 is a much better price point than $400.
- rcoder 18y ago> For me though, the biggest surprise of the keynote is that only 4000 developers are out there. You mean, only 4000 developers were approved by Apple. Over 250K downloads of the SDK and 25K developer key registrations says to me that the bar is being set pretty high to qualify as an authorized iPhone dev shop.
- menloparkbum 18y agoThe bar isn't that high. I got approved, and I'm just some dude. I think much of it had to do with how soon you got into the approval queue.
- drawkbox 18y agoThe mac hardware to develop was a big limitation on large swaths of capable programmers. Recently two things, the iPhone SDK and Unity3D engine are Mac development environment only which really hurts. Do I need to get a mac just to develop for mac? I knew this was coming.
- tortilla 18y ago$30 a month for the 3G data plan ($20 for the iPhone 2G) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/199-iphone-sure-with-a-2-year-contract/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/199-iphone-sure-with-a-...
- tortilla 18y agoHere's another cost to consider: The SMS messages are not bundled anymore, and you pay for what you want. Again, the prices are based on what you buy. http://gigaom.com/2008/06/09/att-mobility-ceo-new-3g-iphone-game-changer/ http://gigaom.com/2008/06/09/att-mobility-ceo-new-3g-iphone-... (towards the bottom of the interview) I think the lowest SMS plan is an additional $5/month for 200 messages.
- yan 18y agoAnyone in the know about SMS plans with the new contract? Is it still 200 msgs included or did that change? I am very tempted to `upgrade' my Blackberry Curve, but I text a lot. The $10 increase in price doesn't bother me so much after the DoD discount.
- martythemaniak 18y agoI wonder what the terms will be like here in Canada. Since Rogers is providing it, I am sure the terms will be absolutely abysmal compared to ATT. My predictions: - phone will be more expensive - you will not get unlimited data - you'll need a 3 year contract - you will once again feel ripped off by the horrible wireless industry here in Canada.
- nradov 18y agoIt's a shame about the lack of Java support. I know Java gets a lot of criticism here, but it's still the only way to build cross-platform applications for mobile devices. (I know you can build web apps and access them through the browser, but for certain use cases those just aren't adequate.)
- listic 18y agoBut no plans for launch in Russia yet. I just keep wondering why. It's been almost a year since launch, and there's version 2 coming but there are ABSOLUTELY ZERO plans to launch iPhone in Russia. You know, we have cell phones here too, and many of them, actually! (here: 140 million http://www.mnweekly.ru/business/20070809/55266704.html http://www.mnweekly.ru/business/20070809/55266704.html)