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> Kids don't learn to deal with setbacks anymore. So the real world overwhelms them. It doesn't sound like you interact with many "kids" these days. As someone

> Kids don't learn to deal with setbacks anymore. So the real world overwhelms them. It doesn't sound like you interact with many "kids" these days. As someone surrounded mostly by them, I can assure you none of this is true. Sad to see this upvoted so highly and especially sad to see people pointing out this is a long brought up conservative talking point with no evidence downvoted. I thought we got over this myth 10 years ago. Yet people still want to yell at Mr. Rodgers for caring about child psychology and being on the forefront of mental health in a real way... Perhaps one should look to the external world these people are coming into for answers. Climate change, the economy, and the political climate with hateful policies against many people over the world in many countries. Not to mention that mental health being destigmatized raises statistical reporting rates as people are simply more open about it. But yeah, let's blame bad parenting that people first accused millennials of when no millennials are even left in the post high school college population.

ThrowawayR2 7y ago
> Climate change, the economy, and the political climate with hateful policies against many people over the world in many countries... Because none of that stuff existed in the '50s, '60s, and '70s? /s Just substitute "nuclear war for "climate change".
- 205guy 7y ago
  I agree with those saying climate change is a huge stressor for young generations. I had the same argument with a friend about fear of nuclear war into the 80's, but she convinced me it wasn't the same. They are both existential fears, but nuclear war was something that only the military could make happen, and as long as it didn't happen, life could go on as usual (well not really, we know now). Whereas climate change is happening slowly but surely all around and everyone will have to change their behavior to avoid it. My wife and I cannot talk about climate change around our kids because they understand how scary it is and we see their fear about the consequences.
  - khyryk 7y ago
    I think this, in some way, can be interpreted in a way favorable to the original parent's comment. Kids being stressed by climate change to the point that their feelings overwhelm all of their coping mechanisms is not an effective strategy for actually fixing the root cause. Ideally, kids would develop, by trial and error, effective strategies for identifying solvable problems and dealing with them, and not being extremely negatively affected by (directly) unsolvable problems. It would be beneficial for society if people heard about climate change and thought, "Okay, that won't be good, so what are some things I can do in the short term and in the long term to make a positive impact?" The great thing about such an approach is that it's omni-applicable, such as when one's car breaks down on a long drive, etc. Parents who constantly hover around their kids presumably interfere with this vital process, perhaps because these important lessons can only be discovered, not forcibly taught.
    - lozenge 7y ago
      To me this is akin to saying that kids under slavery need to learn coping strategies. Yes, it could help, but there is no reason to think it would counteract the inherent effect of their environment - and it lays the blame in entirely the wrong place.
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Nuclear war has a chance of not happening, so I don’t see how it can be substituted for climate change.
- imtringued 7y ago
  If climate change is like nuclear war then we are sending nukes out every day.
raxxorrax 7y ago
I think this is true and very valid criticism against these point "ancient civilizations" had allegedly figuered out, but I do believe that the strive to more safety/control is indeed making people crazy. Not a bit excentric, but batshit accute insane crazy. There is no rational evaluation of real dangers and this irrationality is one, if not the most prominent, driving factors for policy. Hell, people are scared because of tweets and mass surveillance is implemented with justifications an occult voodoo mom would get a red face for. What do you expect to get from police checks in front of schools? And people wonder about school shooters? Seriously?
newsgremlin 7y ago
It's the same arguement used for smacking a child. "I was smacked and I turned alright...except for my short temper and using that anger to discipline my child the same way my parents did, who could never be wrong, obviously."

ThrowawayR2 7y ago

> Climate change, the economy, and the political climate with hateful policies against many people over the world in many countries... Because none of that stuff existed in the '50s, '60s, and '70s? /s Just substitute "nuclear war for "climate change".

205guy 7y ago
I agree with those saying climate change is a huge stressor for young generations. I had the same argument with a friend about fear of nuclear war into the 80's, but she convinced me it wasn't the same. They are both existential fears, but nuclear war was something that only the military could make happen, and as long as it didn't happen, life could go on as usual (well not really, we know now). Whereas climate change is happening slowly but surely all around and everyone will have to change their behavior to avoid it. My wife and I cannot talk about climate change around our kids because they understand how scary it is and we see their fear about the consequences.
- khyryk 7y ago
  I think this, in some way, can be interpreted in a way favorable to the original parent's comment. Kids being stressed by climate change to the point that their feelings overwhelm all of their coping mechanisms is not an effective strategy for actually fixing the root cause. Ideally, kids would develop, by trial and error, effective strategies for identifying solvable problems and dealing with them, and not being extremely negatively affected by (directly) unsolvable problems. It would be beneficial for society if people heard about climate change and thought, "Okay, that won't be good, so what are some things I can do in the short term and in the long term to make a positive impact?" The great thing about such an approach is that it's omni-applicable, such as when one's car breaks down on a long drive, etc. Parents who constantly hover around their kids presumably interfere with this vital process, perhaps because these important lessons can only be discovered, not forcibly taught.
  - lozenge 7y ago
    To me this is akin to saying that kids under slavery need to learn coping strategies. Yes, it could help, but there is no reason to think it would counteract the inherent effect of their environment - and it lays the blame in entirely the wrong place.
lotsofpulp 7y ago
Nuclear war has a chance of not happening, so I don’t see how it can be substituted for climate change.
imtringued 7y ago
If climate change is like nuclear war then we are sending nukes out every day.

raxxorrax 7y ago

I think this is true and very valid criticism against these point "ancient civilizations" had allegedly figuered out, but I do believe that the strive to more safety/control is indeed making people crazy. Not a bit excentric, but batshit accute insane crazy. There is no rational evaluation of real dangers and this irrationality is one, if not the most prominent, driving factors for policy. Hell, people are scared because of tweets and mass surveillance is implemented with justifications an occult voodoo mom would get a red face for. What do you expect to get from police checks in front of schools? And people wonder about school shooters? Seriously?

newsgremlin 7y ago

It's the same arguement used for smacking a child. "I was smacked and I turned alright...except for my short temper and using that anger to discipline my child the same way my parents did, who could never be wrong, obviously."