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HK allows dual citizenship and there are around 300,000 Canadians living in HK right now[1]. Not sure about other nationalities. And I think HK passport can go

HK allows dual citizenship and there are around 300,000 Canadians living in HK right now[1]. Not sure about other nationalities. And I think HK passport can go to many countries visa free or visa on arrival[2]. So in a sense many protesters do have a plan b if needed. 1. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/unrest-in-hong-kong-fuels-speculation-of-spike-in-re-return-migration-to-canada https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/unrest-in-hong-kong-fue... 2. https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/service/travel_document/visa_free_access.html https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/service/travel_document/visa_fre...

adventured 7y ago
There are ~85,000 Americans living in HK.
seanmcdirmid 7y ago
The protesters are more working class than the richer HKers with multiple passports. Sure, they can leave, but it is much harder for them to establish themselves in a new country. They can buy a plane ticket, but then what?
- theseadroid 7y ago
  I'm not saying it's easy, but it's better than not having the option right? Many HKers have done this during the 90s when HK became part of China.
  - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
    The richer ones did as a hedge, the poorer ones not really. There were more than a few economic immigrants from HK in the 60s, 70s and even 80s, but the jobs they could get were the ones we typically associate with economic immigrants (think Bruce Lee washing dishes at a restaurant, and the old China town feel). I’m not sure if that is very viable today.
- chaostheory 7y ago
  They can do what the Chinese have done since the 19th century: move and adapt. It's what my family did. Easier said than done, but I feel it's pretty ingrained now when you can even find Chinese families in places like Africa.
  - throwaway2048 7y ago
    It was much easier to move somewhere in the 19th century if you had the money. Its essentially impossible to move to another 1st world country without years (or decades) of process + usually a highly valued university degree these days
    - chaostheory 7y ago
      Doesn't matter. imo Chinese people can still adapt. It's part of the culture. My family came to the US as illegal aliens with no money and poor education (their degrees weren't of much use). We still made it work. I know it's anecdotal, but there are a lot of anecdotes throughout Asia, Europe, the Americas, Africa, and even in the Middle East (it was surreal when I met a Chinese guy from Saudi Arabia who was looking for a potential 7th wife). EDIT: it wasn't easy immigrating the US in the 19th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment_in_the_...
      - FabHK 7y ago
        Don't understand why GP is downvoted. Of course Chinese people (like many others) can adapt, but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? For most people, asylum is hardly an option (though Germany has granted asylum to several leaders of the HK protests). If you don't go via asylum, you have to go via normal immigration routes, and they are normally either investment or skills based these days - you need lots of money or excellent education. You cannot just go and live in any country you want anymore (for most people).
        chaostheory 7y ago
tmeprieodj 7y ago
Most people in Hong Kong that are protesting don’t have a second passport. That’s why they are fighting. As for those with passports, most are still dormant even though they do support the protest.

adventured 7y ago

There are ~85,000 Americans living in HK.

seanmcdirmid 7y ago

The protesters are more working class than the richer HKers with multiple passports. Sure, they can leave, but it is much harder for them to establish themselves in a new country. They can buy a plane ticket, but then what?

theseadroid 7y ago
I'm not saying it's easy, but it's better than not having the option right? Many HKers have done this during the 90s when HK became part of China.
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  The richer ones did as a hedge, the poorer ones not really. There were more than a few economic immigrants from HK in the 60s, 70s and even 80s, but the jobs they could get were the ones we typically associate with economic immigrants (think Bruce Lee washing dishes at a restaurant, and the old China town feel). I’m not sure if that is very viable today.
chaostheory 7y ago
They can do what the Chinese have done since the 19th century: move and adapt. It's what my family did. Easier said than done, but I feel it's pretty ingrained now when you can even find Chinese families in places like Africa.
- throwaway2048 7y ago
  It was much easier to move somewhere in the 19th century if you had the money. Its essentially impossible to move to another 1st world country without years (or decades) of process + usually a highly valued university degree these days
  - chaostheory 7y ago
    Doesn't matter. imo Chinese people can still adapt. It's part of the culture. My family came to the US as illegal aliens with no money and poor education (their degrees weren't of much use). We still made it work. I know it's anecdotal, but there are a lot of anecdotes throughout Asia, Europe, the Americas, Africa, and even in the Middle East (it was surreal when I met a Chinese guy from Saudi Arabia who was looking for a potential 7th wife). EDIT: it wasn't easy immigrating the US in the 19th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment_in_the_...
    - FabHK 7y ago
      Don't understand why GP is downvoted. Of course Chinese people (like many others) can adapt, but how are you going into a country and stay there legally? For most people, asylum is hardly an option (though Germany has granted asylum to several leaders of the HK protests). If you don't go via asylum, you have to go via normal immigration routes, and they are normally either investment or skills based these days - you need lots of money or excellent education. You cannot just go and live in any country you want anymore (for most people).
      - chaostheory 7y ago

tmeprieodj 7y ago

Most people in Hong Kong that are protesting don’t have a second passport. That’s why they are fighting. As for those with passports, most are still dormant even though they do support the protest.