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Dating Denial of Service attack
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- riobard 16y agoThis is exactly the opposite of DDoS attacks: the real hot women are way too overloaded. The guy just did load balancing by offloading 60+% traffic to more fake backends. [edit]: maybe should be titled “Solve Dating Denial of Service attacks”.
- ambirex 16y agoI saw this earlier today and thought, while it was a less than honorable thing to do, it was a pretty clever bit of social engineering.
- patio11 16y agoDo you mean the narrative itself or the use of it? ("Haha, jocks, I got the girl because I know computers. Ain't that grand, fellow computer nerds.")
- pmorici 16y agoI didn't read it like that at all. In fact there really weren't any computer skills involved. It seems just good old fashioned ingenuity and elbow grease. As a commenter further down notes he knew a guy that employed a similar strategy with newspaper personal ads to get people to come to his bands gigs.
- rflrob 16y agoAs they say, all's fair in love and war. I've been thinking about what part of it, exactly, is dishonorable, and I'm really not sure.
- blub 16y agoI think it's the part where he is hiding the truth about how he seduced her. Or it could be the part where him and his friends lied and led on a bunch of people online. Or is it ok if those other people were jocks? What if they weren't jocks? What if it was you and you couldn't get a date because of them?
- vessenes 16y agoI redirected reddit.com to news.ycombinator.com, so I haven't read the article. I did however, just spend some time talking with my attractive single sister-in-law about dirty guy tricks in the dating scene. She's pretty broad-minded, so I don't think she represents every woman, but I liked her attitude. She said something like: "Girls stuff their bras, and play all sorts of mind-games to get guys to like them. I would consider social engineering fair turnabout, man! The guys are way behind in this area!"
- JonnieCache 16y ago>"Girls stuff their bras, and play all sorts of mind-games to get guys to like them. I would consider social engineering fair turnabout, man! The guys are way behind in this area!" This is only that start of it. If you think date-engineering is something typically done by creepy men, you may want to reconsider.
- juiceandjuice 16y ago5 upvotes and nobody has asked for her number yet. So, how can I get her number?
- DarrenLehane 16y agoA visionary, to say the least.
- iamdave 16y agoAnyone else slightly reminded of that scene from A Beautiful Mind reading this?
- pmorici 16y agoIt's been a long time since I've seen that movie, which scene exactly?
- danilocampos 16y agoJohn Nash and some guys see a blonde at a bar, which inspires his theory of governing dynamics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jrNoNNtrE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jrNoNNtrE It's a great scene.
- ajslater 16y agohttp://xkcd.com/182/ http://xkcd.com/182/
- danilocampos 16y agoHeh, quite. I console myself with the thought that good storytelling owes has no obligation to reality.
- zach 16y agoThis scenario will itself soon become a scene in another movie or TV show, mark my words. Stuff like this is gold for screenwriters.
- rhizome 16y agoIt sounds more like Elijah Wood's character in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."
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- bobf 16y agoThis seems like a great answer in response to the YC application's "hack" question.
- Timothee 16y agoTo be honest, for the past few years, every time I have read about something like that, I have thought about that question.
- pharrington 16y agoSurvival of the fittest in 2011.
- DevX101 16y agoThere was another pretty interesting post a while back along similar lines. The guy set up a fake profile with a very attractive guy, a great job, and an exciting persona. Basically every woman's dream guy. He then used this fake profile to message the girls he was interested in. Pretty much every woman opened up their souls, dreams, and wishes to this fake Cassanova. He then uses this inside information to make his real self more interesting and the conversation more engaging when he messages them and goes on dates.
- brandnewlow 16y agoIt's the dating hack of the year! http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/empim/myownwingman_learned_i_got_dumped_by_someone_for/ http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/empim/myownwingma...
- blub 16y agoI don't see how what amounts to lying can be considered a clever solution. By these standards, the biggest liars are the best hackers. This is the problem that I have with both of these pseudo-hacks. Both persons are liars and cheaters, which is socially not accepted, except when dating apparently...
- dalore 16y agoIt's not lying, it's called social engineering.
- blub 16y agoSocial engineering is a euphemism for lying or hiding the truth. It is at its core based on manipulation and as any tool it can be used for good of for bad. Using it to get sex is not what I consider "greater good". I suppose calling it engineering does make one feel better though... it almost sounds like something positive.
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- shadowmatter 16y agoThis is similar to the Sybil attack in peer-to-peer networking. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack: "A Sybil attack is one in which an attacker subverts the reputation system of a peer-to-peer network by creating a large number of pseudonymous entities, using them to gain a disproportionately large influence."
- gridspy 16y agoOnly when the fake female accounts upvote his real account in some way.
- eneveu 16y agoHe should use his female accounts to message his real account, and only "reply" to a few of those. OkCupid would then inform other girls that he "replies very selectively" when they message him, and would thus see him as hard to get!
- ck2 16y agoGuys, if you do this, just remember that when they use their best friend to hit on you to see if you'll cheat, and how upset that makes you when you find out. Turn-about is fair play if you aren't going to be straight-up about things.
- joe_the_user 16y agoUh, If that happened to you, it's one woman who did it, not "they".
- endtime 16y agoIt's a pretty common stereotype - I don't know if I've ever seen it happen IRL but I've seen it happen a lot in movies/TV. I think ck can be forgiven the generalization.
- brown9-2 16y agoWe accept fact-less generalizations and stereotypes around here now?
- endtime 16y agoSo long as they're presented and taken as such, I don't see why not. ck2 never said "Every woman does X" or "Your girlfriend will surely do X". I guess I took the "when" as a colloquial "if" - if your reading was more literal then I suppose I can see why you're upset.
- JonnieCache 16y agoIf anything, seeing something regularly on TV but not in RL is evidence against it's RL prevalence. The people who write TV generally do not lead statistically typical lives, although they often seem to think that they do. See: Sex and the City.
- ck2 16y agolol, couldn't happen to me but maybe I said that badly. I've seen guys complain about that type of behavior and I am just saying no-one should be playing these kinds of games if you want honesty from a relationship. Now that I think about it, maybe relationships aren't the goal of this kind of behavior in the first place, so maybe this whole thread is a really bad idea for HN.
- keiferski 16y agoSo they created fake accounts and pretended to be attractive women, just to get with a random girl? If that's not the definition of creepy, I don't know what is. The fact that he doesn't want the girl to find out should make this obvious -- any woman who found out you were doing this would be put off immediately, as they should be. Instead of spending so much time with some weird scheme in an attempt to put down the "hunks," how about just becoming a more attractive and more interesting person on your own? Newsflash, guys: women are attracted to confidence and a sense of self-worth, among other things, not complex mechanisms to distract the other guys. There are two ways to be the biggest building. One is to tear down the other buildings. Or two, just build the biggest building. - Gary V Sorry, but this is just really strange, and the lack of ANY negative feedback on here or Reddit is even more disconcerting.
- rue 16y agoUnderstanding people is hard sometimes. If you yourself have managed to improve yourself in some way, it's particularly hard to understand why someone else couldn't do it too.
- joe_the_user 16y agoSo you've done this online? It worked well for you? So you know the three sentence opener that is going to compensate for a less than attractive picture? Let's hear it. Or is your answer just a stand-in to let you morally condemn these others? In person, one can project confidence, intelligence, humor etc. Online, being unique is bit harder, not just because someone can copy your words but also because you get to use far fewer of them before a decision is made. I'm not condemning or condoning the original post. But it's telling that a lot of condemnations for "gaming the dating system" that I hear are prefaced by "it's easy, just become more confident/relax/be yourself". Supply-and-demand says that the common measure of "success" in dating aren't inherently easy. They might not be desirable either but that's a different story. I think online dating with photo does create a real quandary because it gives one very little time and thus makes the likely winners more based on immediate visual factors.
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- vaksel 16y agoi don't see how this would work since most guys use the shotgun approach, so none of the women would stop receiving messages. + most women get something like 200 messages a week..so even if the numbers went down, they'd still have plenty of messages. Granted it might work somewhere in the middle of Montana with 20,000 people within 200 miles.
- trustfundbaby 16y agoGuys will email the most attractive chicks first then work their way down the ladder (so to speak) ... if any of the chicks at the top of the ladder respond to them, thats where their attention is going to be until the figure out something is up or otherwise lose interest ... With 50 impossibly (fake) hot chicks on the radar and only 30 real ones who probably fall below the 50 on the scale, that would give our boys more than enough time to seal the deal
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- Strunk 16y agoHaha! This is f-king awesome! :)
- skbohra123 16y agoReddit posts are generally useless talks. Cross posting from reddit, solves anything ? This looks out of scope to me.
- skbohra123 16y agowould you please mind, explaining for the down vote?
- khafra 16y agoI did not vote, but I understand: You commented solely to complain about the main post. Your comment added no more information than a flag would have. Your comment was completely generic. It made no specific argument against the link except to disparage reddit. The stereotypical HN reader prides himself on being the type of person who'd appreciate clever, insightful material even from /b/, let alone from reddit. Also, I realize English is not your first language, but it's the lingua franca of this site; and your English was distractingly poor.
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- noodle 16y agoi think that the fact that (1) they perceived this was necessary and (2) this worked, shows that online dating needs a better way of doing things.
- dantkz 16y agoSomehow reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbJHkwHZCCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbJHkwHZCCM Will this approach work on the job offers websites?
- wallflower 16y agoHighly recommend the Catfish Movie if you have not seen it. A variant of the same technique is employed. http://www.iamrogue.com/catfish http://www.iamrogue.com/catfish
- klbarry 16y agoIt seems to me the woman would only be impressed by his resourcefulness, and flattered, if he told her how he got her in a joking way over dinner. I, personally, would be impressed if a woman did it.