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Why would they need to walk 40 minutes? In countries with good public school systems, all of the public schools are equally acceptable so you just send them to

Why would they need to walk 40 minutes? In countries with good public school systems, all of the public schools are equally acceptable so you just send them to the nearest one which is generally less than a mile walk away.

wozniacki 7y ago
I think you're living in a make-believe world of homogeneity. There are vast differences between the quality of schooling - both public or private - even within global metropolises like NYC, London, Paris & Tokyo. Its downright laughable to assume otherwise.
- piotr1212 7y ago
  Probably depends on the country. Here in the Netherlands the difference of quality is really small between public elementary schools. Private schools are practically non-existent.
- oefrha 7y ago
  Middle and high school do matter, but I don’t think primary/elementary/grade school — whatever you call it — makes much of a difference. I attended the average neighborhood primary school back in my day, and went on to the most competitive middle school, high school, and university.
  - wozniacki 7y ago
    Are you really implying a school in Croydon, a large town in south London is going to be functionally and qualitatively equivalent to say a school in Golders Green, an area in the London Borough of Barnet? [1][2] Equivalent in all the areas one might measure the attractiveness and potential of a school? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golders_Green https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golders_Green edit:typo
    - oefrha 7y ago
      I know nothing about schooling in England, but I would imagine the parents’ education as well as socioeconomic status plays a much greater role than elementary schooling, as is the case everywhere else.
    - ginko 7y ago
      The UK is a pretty poor example since it's a very elitist country.
    - ddalex 7y ago
      I live in London, and I don't get your point. There are OFSTED Outstanding-rated schools both in Croydon and Golders Green.
    - DanBC 7y ago
      You've linked to the wrong wikipedia article, and used the word "town", which leads me to think you don't understand London much. Is there any reason you linked to wikipedia articles about a part of London with a large Jewish population vs a part of London with a large ethnic minority population? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Croydon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Croydon
      - wozniacki 7y ago
        I just realized that. Yes the one you linked is the one I meant to use in my example. I meant to pick a town/neighborhood with rich inhabitants (per capita) and a town/neighborhood with not so well off inhabitants.
- krageon 7y ago
  Outside of primary schools with a very strict religious background they are really all the same. You don't look at those with exit metrics and average scores on national tests the way you do with schooling after it.
briandear 7y ago
I lived in France in the south in a small town. The school was a 5 mile drive away. The grocery store was 2 miles away. My young kid went to one school, the older one to another and they were in opposite sides of the commune. In the south of France, everyone has a car. I also spent time in a small town near Bremen, Germany.. A bus game every hour. Things were far apart and yes, there, most people have cars. Suggesting “Europe” is just like Amsterdam is stereotyping and doesn’t represent reality for millions of people who don’t live in larger cities.
konart 7y ago
I live in Russia and we have different school for example. >Common >Lyceum >Gymnasium Lyceum and Gymnasium will give you better programs, teachers, resources, special subjects etc. They have fewer seats too obviously. And you don't have too many of them. Common schools why being generally the same - also usually have different education levels. So before sendingg your kid to one of them you do a research - what kind of teachers does the school has, does it have football field or pool, maybe even you'll look into what have become of it's graduates. When I was in school (1995-2005) The nearest school was... okay. It wasn't bad, but you don't really expect anything of it. Half boys older than 14 were smoking already, girls not giving two shits about studies, teachers who would just to their 9 to 17 routine. So I was attending Gymnasium 20 minutes away if you take a bus.

wozniacki 7y ago

I think you're living in a make-believe world of homogeneity. There are vast differences between the quality of schooling - both public or private - even within global metropolises like NYC, London, Paris & Tokyo. Its downright laughable to assume otherwise.

piotr1212 7y ago
Probably depends on the country. Here in the Netherlands the difference of quality is really small between public elementary schools. Private schools are practically non-existent.
oefrha 7y ago
Middle and high school do matter, but I don’t think primary/elementary/grade school — whatever you call it — makes much of a difference. I attended the average neighborhood primary school back in my day, and went on to the most competitive middle school, high school, and university.
- wozniacki 7y ago
  Are you really implying a school in Croydon, a large town in south London is going to be functionally and qualitatively equivalent to say a school in Golders Green, an area in the London Borough of Barnet? [1][2] Equivalent in all the areas one might measure the attractiveness and potential of a school? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golders_Green https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golders_Green edit:typo
  - oefrha 7y ago
    I know nothing about schooling in England, but I would imagine the parents’ education as well as socioeconomic status plays a much greater role than elementary schooling, as is the case everywhere else.
  - ginko 7y ago
    The UK is a pretty poor example since it's a very elitist country.
  - ddalex 7y ago
    I live in London, and I don't get your point. There are OFSTED Outstanding-rated schools both in Croydon and Golders Green.
  - DanBC 7y ago
    You've linked to the wrong wikipedia article, and used the word "town", which leads me to think you don't understand London much. Is there any reason you linked to wikipedia articles about a part of London with a large Jewish population vs a part of London with a large ethnic minority population? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Croydon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Croydon
    - wozniacki 7y ago
      I just realized that. Yes the one you linked is the one I meant to use in my example. I meant to pick a town/neighborhood with rich inhabitants (per capita) and a town/neighborhood with not so well off inhabitants.
krageon 7y ago
Outside of primary schools with a very strict religious background they are really all the same. You don't look at those with exit metrics and average scores on national tests the way you do with schooling after it.

briandear 7y ago

I lived in France in the south in a small town. The school was a 5 mile drive away. The grocery store was 2 miles away. My young kid went to one school, the older one to another and they were in opposite sides of the commune. In the south of France, everyone has a car. I also spent time in a small town near Bremen, Germany.. A bus game every hour. Things were far apart and yes, there, most people have cars. Suggesting “Europe” is just like Amsterdam is stereotyping and doesn’t represent reality for millions of people who don’t live in larger cities.

konart 7y ago

I live in Russia and we have different school for example. >Common >Lyceum >Gymnasium Lyceum and Gymnasium will give you better programs, teachers, resources, special subjects etc. They have fewer seats too obviously. And you don't have too many of them. Common schools why being generally the same - also usually have different education levels. So before sendingg your kid to one of them you do a research - what kind of teachers does the school has, does it have football field or pool, maybe even you'll look into what have become of it's graduates. When I was in school (1995-2005) The nearest school was... okay. It wasn't bad, but you don't really expect anything of it. Half boys older than 14 were smoking already, girls not giving two shits about studies, teachers who would just to their 9 to 17 routine. So I was attending Gymnasium 20 minutes away if you take a bus.