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I'm centrally located in Berlin, and have an unmetered 400/12mpbs cable connection for 40Eur/m. I can't say that I'm impressed, but having just lived in Canada

I'm centrally located in Berlin, and have an unmetered 400/12mpbs cable connection for 40Eur/m. I can't say that I'm impressed, but having just lived in Canada which is _far_ worse I'm happy about it not being quite as bad. However, 10 years ago in Sweden I had an unmetered 1000/1000mbps fiber connection for 4Eur/m. I feel like I'm doomed to forever have a shittier connection.

zepearl 7y ago
4Eur/m is really really cheap... . I do have FTTH (Switzerland, outskirts of Zurich) with unmetered 1Gb/s upload & download but I pay 54 CHF/month (cable installed by Swisscom but I'm using another Internet provider). My parents live in the south of Switzerland, in the middle of nowhere, and for unknown reason one day the local gas & electricity company showed up and installed there as well FTTH (I'll never thank them enough as before the copper cable often did not work at all) and if I remember correctly they're paying ~60 CHF/month for symmetric 1Gb/s (sunrise.ch). In general I think that in Switzerland we're currently all ok with having to pay ~60 CHF/month for such a speed.
- tribaal 7y ago
  That's only in big cities and some random gemindes though (your parents are lucky). I get my internet over 4g here because land lines are 10/1 mbps. Still, 4g is 80/15 or so, so it's viable for now (sunrise too)
danieldk 7y ago
I'm centrally located in Berlin, and have an unmetered 400/12mpbs cable connection for 40Eur/m. We lived near Tübingen and internet was pretty terrible. The options were 50MBit downstream (not guaranteed) VDSL or cable internet. With cable internet we had 200/20MBit, downstream was as promised, but upstream was often actually around 2MBit. Then there were regular service interruptions throughout the region. At some point, internet would be down for a few hours at least one Saturday/Sunday per month or so. (Maybe during the week as wel, but I was at work.) We moved to The Netherlands a year ago, we have synchronous fiber of up to 500/500 (we currently use 200/200, and fiber is not available everywhere). It hasn't been down a single time over the last year.
dghughes 7y ago
I'm in Canada and my plan is 20Mbps down/1Mbps up for $193/month but with TV, no cap since I am grandfathered in. Then I see my ISP has 100Mbps (up is ?) for $85 and a cap of 1TB. I guess I should look at my ISP website more often.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  Most of my friends are moving toward pirate TV boxes. I'm thinking about it for my mom: the cableco's STB shows every channel in the guide, whether you get it or not. And you only realize it when you try to go to the channel. They have updated the box to show more ads in the guide though... Argh.
  - dghughes 7y ago
    Only one ISP/cable TV company has local hockey on the Community Access channel no other ISP/Cable has it. Dad would never go to any other company since he likes local hockey. Mom isn't much for TV just the local news and a few British comedies but only TV not streaming or DVD. Streaming video is not the same experience as TV. My parents would never sit down and binge watch or even watch a video on Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. It's just not how they see TV. They wouldn't even have watched a VHS or DVD it's just not how they see TV. To them it's more like radio it's read only, you sit you watch, no control other than on or off.
mister_hn 7y ago
located in Berlin, I have only fiber and the only ISP is Deutsche Telekom, offering a 50Mbps connection for 40€/month. The 500Mbps is at 99€/month
sneak 7y ago
In Kreuzberg, in central Berlin, many places don’t have fiber or cable available, and can only get 14mbps down ADSL2+. I lived that way for a decade. It was terrible.

zepearl 7y ago

4Eur/m is really really cheap... . I do have FTTH (Switzerland, outskirts of Zurich) with unmetered 1Gb/s upload & download but I pay 54 CHF/month (cable installed by Swisscom but I'm using another Internet provider). My parents live in the south of Switzerland, in the middle of nowhere, and for unknown reason one day the local gas & electricity company showed up and installed there as well FTTH (I'll never thank them enough as before the copper cable often did not work at all) and if I remember correctly they're paying ~60 CHF/month for symmetric 1Gb/s (sunrise.ch). In general I think that in Switzerland we're currently all ok with having to pay ~60 CHF/month for such a speed.

tribaal 7y ago
That's only in big cities and some random gemindes though (your parents are lucky). I get my internet over 4g here because land lines are 10/1 mbps. Still, 4g is 80/15 or so, so it's viable for now (sunrise too)

danieldk 7y ago

I'm centrally located in Berlin, and have an unmetered 400/12mpbs cable connection for 40Eur/m. We lived near Tübingen and internet was pretty terrible. The options were 50MBit downstream (not guaranteed) VDSL or cable internet. With cable internet we had 200/20MBit, downstream was as promised, but upstream was often actually around 2MBit. Then there were regular service interruptions throughout the region. At some point, internet would be down for a few hours at least one Saturday/Sunday per month or so. (Maybe during the week as wel, but I was at work.) We moved to The Netherlands a year ago, we have synchronous fiber of up to 500/500 (we currently use 200/200, and fiber is not available everywhere). It hasn't been down a single time over the last year.

dghughes 7y ago

I'm in Canada and my plan is 20Mbps down/1Mbps up for $193/month but with TV, no cap since I am grandfathered in. Then I see my ISP has 100Mbps (up is ?) for $85 and a cap of 1TB. I guess I should look at my ISP website more often.

Scoundreller 7y ago
Most of my friends are moving toward pirate TV boxes. I'm thinking about it for my mom: the cableco's STB shows every channel in the guide, whether you get it or not. And you only realize it when you try to go to the channel. They have updated the box to show more ads in the guide though... Argh.
- dghughes 7y ago
  Only one ISP/cable TV company has local hockey on the Community Access channel no other ISP/Cable has it. Dad would never go to any other company since he likes local hockey. Mom isn't much for TV just the local news and a few British comedies but only TV not streaming or DVD. Streaming video is not the same experience as TV. My parents would never sit down and binge watch or even watch a video on Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. It's just not how they see TV. They wouldn't even have watched a VHS or DVD it's just not how they see TV. To them it's more like radio it's read only, you sit you watch, no control other than on or off.

mister_hn 7y ago

located in Berlin, I have only fiber and the only ISP is Deutsche Telekom, offering a 50Mbps connection for 40€/month. The 500Mbps is at 99€/month

sneak 7y ago

In Kreuzberg, in central Berlin, many places don’t have fiber or cable available, and can only get 14mbps down ADSL2+. I lived that way for a decade. It was terrible.