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Been using vscode for a long time now and just love using it! It feels more stable and smooth for me than using the phpstorm ide.
by kevinvdburgt 7y ago
Been using vscode for a long time now and just love using it! It feels more stable and smooth for me than using the phpstorm ide.
- duiker101 7y agoReally? Guess I'll have to give it a try. I am a hardcore IntellJ fan but it's good to see what's out there.
- charrondev 7y agoMy experience has been the following: VSCode is far and away the best IDE for typescript. Nothing comes close. PHPStorm is far better than VSCode for PHP. It is far better at handling imports, it’s debugging is more flexible and makes running individual tests much easier (and debugging them). It has code generation for boilerplate like constructors, getters, and setters. As another commenter mentioned it handles references in doc blocks far better as well. I can do some PHP programming in VSCode, but am far productive in PHPStorm. It’s the other way around for Typescript though so I run them both all day and have the keyboard shortcuts configured similarly.
- modzu 7y ago+1 phpstorm is a work of art
- steve_adams_86 7y ago> makes running individual tests much easier (and debugging them) This sort of polish is incredible. I love having it in RubyMine. If I had way more time I'd try to build a VS Code extension to make this work, but I really don't have the time. Little things like this make an IDE worth paying for.
- IloveHN84 7y agoWell IntelliJ Community Edition has so much limitations, like Enterprise part is only available in Ultimate.
- duiker101 7y agoWith the amount of value that I get out of IntellJ Ultimate considering I use it for every language I use (Java/PHP/Go/JS literally whatever) I am VERY happy to throw them $89/year (you get discounts for consecutive years, first year would be $149). That really feels like nothing and it's definitely well deserved.
- vishalh 7y agoIt's $499 a year and comes down to $299 after two years, much more expensive now - https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearly https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearl... For some use cases the language specific IDEs can be better and getting access to all of them is quite pricey.
- duiker101 7y agoThat's for organizations. I am talking IntelliJ Ultimate (no Resharper included) for individuals.
- reaperducer 7y agoI am VERY happy to throw them $89/year Is that $89/year so you can get updates each year, or does it stop working if you stop paying? I won't rent software ("SaaS").
- duiker101 7y agoUpdates. When you pay, you get a perpetual fallback license to that version https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
- vishalh 7y agoIf you pay for 1 year you get to keep the minor version from the start of the year. Eg. if you start a 1 year subscription now you will get to keep version 2019.1
- nolok 7y agoKnow what you want. PHPStorm is an IDE. It can be used as a simple editor but compared to the other it sucks at it, very clunky. VS Code is an editor. It can be used as an almost IDE with refactoring and stuff but compared to the other it sucks at it, very clunky. I use both, for PHP and for Go, and they're very different beasts who both have their uses. It's weird to me that one could consider them in competition or having to "chose one" between them, unless you don't really know what kind of tool you want to work with.
- IAmEveryone 7y agoI know you've seen others use this line, and how smart they appeared doing so... But for VSCode, the distinction just isn't there anymore. It has integrated debugging, refactoring, indexing, and all sorts of other language-specific features.
- nolok 7y agoYes, and if you use VS Code for those features it's terribly far behind the competition. Even its auto completion for PHP (a very nicely supported language) is nowhere near as complete and reliable as the one from PHPStorm. As for refactoring, well, it's not even in the same league.
- cptn_brittish 7y agoSo does Emacs. Emacs also has multiple webrowsers and email clients out of the box. Those features do not make Emacs not a text editor though.
- jayflux 7y agoWe need to retire the IDE/Text Editor distinction. It really serves no purpose now other than to cause pointless debates or make people feel a bit more elite. The line is too blurred between the 2 and it doesn’t really matter anyway. Nearly all text editors these days are just modular IDEs, people add on the bits they want and do their work in them. May as-well just use IDE to describe all of them.
- wolco 7y agosublime is so much faster than both.
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- conradfr 7y agoSublime just doesn't do what PhpStorm (and others Jetbrain's IDE) does. And yes I sometimes wish it would be faster, but not enough to use something else with a quarter of the functionalities.
- wolco 7y agoWhat does phpStorm give you that sublime doesn't? Refactoring tools are nice and deployments configuration are nice but the tradeoff just loading the app in terms of speed can feel like minutes.
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