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a standard supported by nothing, that reminds me of xhtml2...
by pmlnr 7y ago
a standard supported by nothing, that reminds me of xhtml2...
- imtringued 7y agoIt is very condescending to label Intel, AMD and pretty much every other GPU vendor other than Nvidia as nothing.
- chrisseaton 7y agoIf Nvidia don't support it, then it's just a standard, not the standard.
- darkpuma 7y agoMeanwhile X is still on death watch and Nvidia will be brought into the fold or be forced to stop pretending they support the linux desktop.
- michaelmrose 7y agoWherein "death watch" is expected to work without difficulty for the next decade or longer. They aren't pretending they support Linux, BSD, Solaris, Mac, Windows for a decade after each card is released. While this was true ATI/amd were shipping garbage that barely worked for a few years. This has only changed in recent years. We are a few years having one dedicated gpu maker in the fold and are already talking about using your massive 2% marketshare to strong arm the other. You could afford to be more humble and less entitled.
- darkpuma 7y agoIt really doesn't matter to me if Nvidia drops out of the linux desktop market or not. I've never owned their hardware and never will, so it makes not an iota of difference to me. I'm just observing that Redhat is the trendsetter and if they say X is legacy, that makes it so. Unless Nvidia or Nvidia customers decide to pick up where Redhat is leaving off and pay for developers to work on X, but I sincerely doubt that's going to happen. Unless Nvidia decides to support the new system, they can't plausibly claim to support the linux desktop. I just hope whatever happens will result in less online whining from linux-using Nvidia customers.
- michaelmrose 7y agoI think having a substantial chunk of potential machines no longer work would be a meaningful difference to the overall actual and potential user base regardless of how you feel personally. I think we should therefore act in everyone's interests.
- darkpuma 7y agoWho's going to put up the money? Not Redhat, they don't want to pay for it anymore. Will the nvidia users? Will they be willing to pay for their card twice? Will Nvidia pay for the continued development of X, when they already seem to loath spending money on linux? If nobody picks up the slack, the paths ahead seems pretty clear. Either Nvidia produces a proper driver, or their support for the Linux desktop can be classified as legacy at best. Feeling upset about this situation doesn't change the nature of it.
- krageon 7y agoThis is exactly the kind of reasoning that has always stood in the way of real people using Linux. It makes me sad that we've come a really long way towards taking that mindset out of the OS and we seem to be moving back to it again.
- JetSpiegel 7y agoNVidia doesn't care, why should the rest of the community subsidize their development costs? The solution has been presented, and they reject it.
- krageon 7y agoThe point I was trying to make is that your end users are fundamentally the ones suffering. You are not suffering, because you avoid the problem by throwing money at it. Nvidia is not suffering, because you as a community don't matter to their wallet. The only people who suffer are the people we write software for. Maybe that doesn't matter to you, because you write software only for people like you. That's fair. It matters to me though.
- Keyframe 7y agoDiscrete GPU market share is 80%+ Nvidia, last time I checked.
- ekc 7y agoDiscrete GPUs are a write-off of a minority of the total market, last I checked.
- alextooter 7y agoIt is true,intel and AMD's GPU can consider as nothing.