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You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scores.php https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-re

by cbsks 7y ago

You can view your reCaptcha V3 score here: https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scores.php https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scor... I get .7 on my iPhone, I’m guessing that my liberal use of Firefox containers and the cookie auto-delete extension on my desktop will give me a much lower score and cause me to have to jump through extra hoops at websites that implement it, just like the reCaptcha V2 does. Edit: I also got 0.7 on Firefox with strict content blocking (which is supposed to block fingerprinters), uBlock Origin, and Cookie AutoDelete. I get 0.9 from a container which is logged into Google.

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ixwt 7y ago
I get a 0.7 on my computer on Firefox. If I use the same website in Chrome (which is signed into a Google account) I get a 0.9. I guess it's a [0,1] scale?
- benologist 7y ago
  I'm guessing their a-listers came up with something like this: // TODO: add impressive-looking math if (signedin && trackedEverywhere) { return 0.9 } else { return 0.7 } I think we give Google way too much credit for their talent. This is the same company that didn't feel like finishing their website for two decades and subsequently stole $75 million from their users even when Google knew [1]. The same company that somehow still doesn't reconcile amounts owed and just keeps the money when they randomly-ban users and hide behind fake support emails, but they did feel like paying $11 million to keep that away from scrutiny [2]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-emails-adtrader-lawsuit-refund-ad-click-fraud-2019-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-emails-adtrader-lawsu... [2] https://www.searchenginejournal.com/adsense-lawsuit/248135/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/adsense-lawsuit/248135/
  - Twirrim 7y ago
    If I sign out of my google account in Chrome it drops from 0.9 to 0.7. I could have sworn I'd never signed in to Chrome using my google account, but I guess I must have mistakenly signed in to gmail or something. I use FF as my main browser, only ever drop back to Chrome sporadically, or when I really want tabs to be completely isolated (there are some annoyingly CPU/power intensive stuff I do from time to time, and I can just renice Chrome while I get on with other stuff.)
    - lostmyoldone 7y ago
      I believe that's a "feature" they added a while back, auto-signing you into chrome as soon as you was logged into gmail.
    - oil25 7y ago
      > I could have sworn I'd never signed in to Chrome using my google account, but I guess I must have mistakenly signed in to gmail or something. Chrome 69 tricked users into signing into the browser, myself included - https://lifehacker.com/how-to-disable-chromes-automatic-sign-ins-in-version-70-1829819727 https://lifehacker.com/how-to-disable-chromes-automatic-sign... That was the last straw to uninstall Chrome from all my devices and I've been a happy Firefox user ever since. Well, except now reCAPTCHA hardly ever works.
  - asark 7y ago
    Google consistently gives me the impression of a company that (I suppose) has tons of smart people in it, but has badly broken management & incentive structures leading them to constantly do bafflingly stupid stuff at both large and small scales, even by the standards of a bigcorp, to the point that they survive only because they've got one hell of a golden goose.
  - stirfrykitty 7y ago
    Good info. Thank you. And in keeping with recent revelations on Google's manipulation of search results, I think they have really gone beyond the pale. I un-archived my old iPhone two days ago and went back to iOS after the James O'Keefe/Project Veritas revelations. I now cannot, in good conscience, use anything Google. I always knew about the tracking and all that because, after all, they are an ad company. I'm now in the process of moving all of my domains over to Fastmail, which I've used since 2002. I'm using Qwant, Startpage, and DDG for search. FF for browser with many about:config tweaks and several add-ons.
- owaislone 7y ago
  I get 0.9 on Firefox which is my main browser and 0.7 on Chrome which I use only for hangouts.
fybe 7y ago
Interesting. I get a 0.7 on Chrome with no account logged in and uBlock Origin installed. Same browser, same plugin but incognito it's 0.1. Papa google needs my data to trust me. Makes complete sense but still interesting that you can affect your score by giving in.
sleavey 7y ago
I get 0.1 continuously, possibly because I have resist fingerprinting enabled in Firefox. I'm not changing anything to compensate that score; it shows I must be doing something right. If I encounter a reCAPTCHA I will continue to (usually) just leave the site it's on.
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  Same, the way to look at a low score is "I'm getting privacy right".
del82 7y ago
Oscillates between 0.1 and 0.7 for me, and I'm changing nothing on my end (just hitting "Try again"). Does it have to do with refresh speed, I wonder? Privacy Badger and ABP on my work (less-locked-down) Mac.
- SquareWheel 7y ago
  Hitting the same URL over and over again is bot-like behaviour. When working with reCaptcha on forms I usually start getting hit after 4-5 test submissions.
danShumway 7y ago
With Firefox fingerprint resisting turned on and with Ublock Origin/UMatrix, I get a score of 0.1. And I'm not even on a VPN; I'm sure on my home network I'd have an even lower score. To me, it feels like Google's entire strategy behind reCaptcha is to make it harder to protect your privacy. We've basically given up on the idea that there are tasks only humans can do, and to me V3 feels like Google openly saying, "You know how we can prove you're not a robot? Because we literally know exactly who you are." I don't even know if it should be called a captcha -- it feels like it's just identity verification. I don't think this is an acceptable tradeoff. I know that when reCaptcha shows up on HN there's often a crowd that says, "but how else can we block bots?" I'm gonna draw a personal line in the sand and say that I think protecting privacy is more important than stopping bots. If your website can't stop bots without violating my privacy, then I'm starting to feel like I might be on the bots' side.
- nothis 7y ago
  I’m just waiting for the AI-generates fake people and whatever way they will come up to monetize that!
- fasicle 7y ago
  Not sure how much Ublock Origin makes a difference. I have a score of 0.9 with it turned on.
  - asdff 7y ago
    I think this score is fishy. Ran the test three times and got three different scores.
    - ravenstine 7y ago
      I get the exact same score no matter what browser I use, despite uBlock Origin & Privacy Badger & Decentraleyes, even in private mode and with a VPN connection from a country I normally don't use. Hmmmmm...
    - megous 7y ago
sdegutis 7y ago
It didn't load for me and I couldn't figure out why. Then I remembered that I put this in my /etc/hosts a few weeks ago and forgot about it. 127.0.0.1 google.com 127.0.0.1 www.google.com [Edit] So if nothing shows up for you on that page, check for that. Also I just generally recommend it. Google has some unethical practices and duckduckgo.com is pretty good.
- ordu 7y ago
  I got "reCAPTCHA script loading". You need not to use hosts to block it, uMatrix could do it by itself.
TheArcane 7y ago
I use the same extensions on desktop and get 0.3 on my android Firefox
superasn 7y ago
I too got 0.1 even though I'm not on a VPN, and have a stock FF installation with just uBlock addon. I think my ISP may have some part in it but still 0.1 score is 100% bot right? I'm also logged into google and fb which also doesn't affect my score. Only shows how broken their algorithm is :( edit: just tried it with chrome and my score jumped to 0.9! So definitely not my ISP. It's just my browser that Recaptcha doesn't like. If you put two and two together that's really evil shit, even for Google!
Loulybob 7y ago
Using chrome on my phone I get 0.9, but if I switch to Firefox I get 0.1. This is essentially going to let Google gatekeep the web if you aren't using their services.
- Fogest 7y ago
  Really? I don't think so. I get a 0.9 on Google Chrome, and a 0.7 on Firefox. I heavily use Chrome and I have not used Firefox apart from maybe testing some local websites. Despite this I still got 0.7 on there. I expected lower since I don't use the browser.
  - Drdrdrq 7y ago
    On a flip side: you really should check privacy settings in your Firefox, it seems Google can track you easily there. ;)
    - Ftuuky 7y ago
      I use Firefox with Google container and uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger and also get a score of 0.7 How can I get better privacy settings?
      - Drdrdrq 7y ago
        I was being sarcastic - high score on captcha probably means G knows too much about you. That said, I don't think the scores are reliable. It is possible (probable even) that G is still running experiments.
zhte415 7y ago
A consistent 0.3. > error-codes": ["score-threshold-not-met"] Not sure if happy or not happy with that. I will conclude happy enough. Linux, on VPN, Firefox. Not logged into any Google services. Cleared caches (still same IP), no difference.
Zekio 7y ago
interesting my score is 0.9 if I allowed google to track me using cookies, if I block the cookies it goes to 0.7 and if I enable content blocking in Firefox it drops to 0.1
fisherjeff 7y ago
Using desktop Safari incognito without a Google account and Ghostery enabled, I get 0.7 too. Interestingly, disabling CSS drops me to 0.1...
jermaustin1 7y ago
What is most odd is I get 0.7 on iOS Safari which I use for 100% of my purposeful mobile browsing, but I get .9 on iOS Chrome, which is only used when I accidentally click on links from gmail (so very, very rarely).
- lostlogin 7y ago
  It seems a lot is iOS users get 0.7.
- djrogers 7y ago
  Not really odd at all - if you're using the gmail app, there's a shared authentication cookie in all Google apps - including Chrome, so Google knows who you are in Chrome.
ronjouch 7y ago
Using Firefox with uBlock and Cookie-Autodelete I get 0.1 Using Chrome, even incognito and with uBlock I get 0.7 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻. F you, Google, this is blatant bullying, technically unjustifyable abuse of your stranglehold over the whole web platform.
- rbobrowicz 7y ago
  To offer a different datapoint: On FireFox with uBlock on and logged into my corporate gmail I get 0.9, switching to a private tab I get 0.7. This is with every privacy setting turned on in the FF options.
  - dvaun 7y ago
    I also have a similar result (0.7) using my browser at work. I am using containers, uBlock, privacy badger and auto-delete cookies.
gpm 7y ago
Firefox mobile w/ ublock: 0.9
llao 7y ago
> NOTE:This is a sample implementation, the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic.
- josteink 7y ago
  This comment should probably be higher up in the thread.
  - on_and_off 7y ago
    It is both funny and sad to read this thread.
lucb1e 7y ago
This looks like a RNG: I got 0.7, 0.9, and 0.1 successively. It can't make up its mind whether I'm almost certainly not a bot (0.9) or almost certainly a bot (0.1)?
- shawnz 7y ago
  Perhaps the rapid, repeated identical requests outweighed the initial factors which gave you a positive response
  - lucb1e 7y ago
    Might very well be. I also get errors on hacker news about "can't process requests that fast". When asking about it (initially because I thought votes didn't work randomly), the limit is a few requests per second. Turns out I click faster than that, either by reading a whole comment thread and making up my mind whose comments were most helpful (to upvote all at once) or by navigating too fast.
- on_and_off 7y ago
  from the link >the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic I got random scores as well. It looks like this is just a sample of the data structure that the service returns, not the actual score.
  - lucb1e 7y ago
    That would be a useless site, but that's not how I read it. I understand it as "this is not that Google thinks your account is a bot, it's that this request might be made by a bot. And since you didn't use this site as a normal website, it also doesn't score your type of traffic, just this one request". You might be right, but it really does seem to be doing a request to their API.
    - on_and_off 7y ago
      >That would be a useless site looks like it is a demo of the API for people wanting to consume it. knowing what the payload looks like is not useless at all in this case.
xahrepap 7y ago
I get .9 in Firefox on my MBP with UBlock Origin installed. I wondered if it was because I was logged in to Google, so I tried Incognito and got .7. In a never-before-used container I also get .7.
- throwayEngineer 7y ago
  Is it safe to be using Firefox and Apple right now? Did they fix the 0 day?
qqii 7y ago
Seeing what everyone else has posted I'm very suprised that I've received a 0.3 using Chrome on Android. I'm logged in to Google and most of my browsing is via Chrome or Chrome based webview. At least on my phone I've never cleared my cookies or done anything special.
keiru 7y ago
>Please upgrade to a supported browser to get a reCAPTCHA challenge I guess this is a 0 for me then
KumarAseem 7y ago
I got 0.7 on FF, 0.3 on Opera and Chrome, all in incognito mode. Maybe they have just a few values and return it based on AND OR logic of 2-4 variable. Or maybe they are just playing around trying to gather some stats, for some "Don't be Evil" purpose!
qwsxyh 7y ago
Firefox with uBlock O I get 0.9. Don't know what everyone else here is talking about.
shawnz 7y ago
Contrary to the results here, using Firefox + uBlock with DNT and tracking protection enabled, I get a score of 0.9. In private browsing mode it's 0.7. I wonder how many people here are using a VPN or accessing from a non-western country -- I'd bet those are much bigger factors
- jedberg 7y ago
  Were you logged into your Google account? That seems to almost guarantee a .9
  - shawnz 7y ago
    Yes, although not when private browsing of course.
Grue3 7y ago
Work Firefox which I use all the time, no addons (including any adblockers): 0.1 Almost unused Chrome installation, also without addons: 0.7
eswat 7y ago
FF logged into Google account: 0.9 FF incognito window not logged into Google account: 0.7 FF incognito window not logged into Google account through VPN: 0.3 FYI I have uBlock, pi-hole and a bunch of privacy widgets enabled
helper 7y ago
I get 0.7 in both desktop (linux) chrome and firefox. I get 0.3 from android chrome.
bluetidepro 7y ago
I got a 0.9. What's it out of? 1? Sorry if I completely missed that somewhere already.
- jk2faster 7y ago
  Yes, it is out of 1. From https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3 https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3, > reCAPTCHA v3 returns a score (1.0 is very likely a good interaction, 0.0 is very likely a bot).
minieggs 7y ago
Stock Qutebrowser 0.7, FF w/ all the usual extensions (ublock origin) 0.7. Don't know if it matters but I'm rolling Arch. Just adding another point of data for those curious.
denzil_correa 7y ago
It gives me 0.7 on Safari (uBlock Origin) while 0.3 on Chrome (uBlock Origin) - both macOS Mojave.
ilikehurdles 7y ago
With desktop Chrome I get a 0.3. My browser sends Do Not Track, has PrivacyBadger extension, and has that useless google-profile-in-the-browser feature disabled.
chenshuiluke 7y ago
I get 0.9 on my Firefox
pdimitar 7y ago
iPhone with a good (not amazing) adblocker: 0.7 Safari macOS with the same adblocker: 0.7 Firefox macOS with a lot of adblockers: 0.1
jedberg 7y ago
From my computer, where I browse fairly equally with all three of Chrome, Safari, and Firefox (albeit different sites), I get the following scores: Chrome: .9 Safari: .7 Firefox: .1 I have adblock running on all three, and I use containers on Firefox.
fibers 7y ago
Interestingly enough I got .9 on Edge with Ublock origin installed. Perhaps this has something to do with how Edge is using webkit now?
sarathyweb 7y ago
I got 0.9 in my Android phone running chrome. When I opened it in incognito mode, my score was reduced to 0.7
wil421 7y ago
The first time it failed the second time I got a .7 iPhone Xs.
archy_ 7y ago
Google is putting a number on us, is honestly some Minority Report level dystopia. Google is already using this to make life hell for anyone who cares about their privacy, we need to do something about this before they finish putting up their iron curtain over the web. Would it be possible to sue website owners for requiring such invasive measures? I'd love to see this ruled as monopoly power and Google broken up but that's probably not very realistic so we would probably do better to make using Google captchas more expensive in court costs alone than just building their own solutions to fight bots.
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zcid 7y ago
So, I still have to whitelist Google in uMatrix and allow cookies for this to work. Even after doing so, I get a 0.1. I reloaded the page to check for variation as some other users mentioned but get the same score each time. I guess Google is saying I shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.
GordonS 7y ago
0.3 with Brave on Android, no extensions. 0.9 with Chrome on the same device, same connection. Brave isn't particularly "unusual", and is even based on Chromium - surely this is Google blatantly punishing non-Chrome users?
ma2rten 7y ago
I got 0.9 on Chrome, logged into google. I also got 0.9 on Firefox, not logged into google. In incognito mode in chrome, I sometimes get 0.9 and sometimes 0.7 when I reload.
nprateem 7y ago
This is total bullshit. My score of 0.1 in firefox shoots up to 0.9 if I change my user agent to ChromeOS. No other changes - same set of ghostery/ad blocker/fingerprinting prevention, etc. What a scam.
- sieabahlpark 7y ago
  Ding ding ding ding, Google's way of killing the other browsers in the market for good, kill off the adblockers manifest, literally become the entity which monitors the internet as much as the NSA...

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ixwt 7y ago

I get a 0.7 on my computer on Firefox. If I use the same website in Chrome (which is signed into a Google account) I get a 0.9. I guess it's a [0,1] scale?

benologist 7y ago
I'm guessing their a-listers came up with something like this: // TODO: add impressive-looking math if (signedin && trackedEverywhere) { return 0.9 } else { return 0.7 } I think we give Google way too much credit for their talent. This is the same company that didn't feel like finishing their website for two decades and subsequently stole $75 million from their users even when Google knew [1]. The same company that somehow still doesn't reconcile amounts owed and just keeps the money when they randomly-ban users and hide behind fake support emails, but they did feel like paying $11 million to keep that away from scrutiny [2]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-emails-adtrader-lawsuit-refund-ad-click-fraud-2019-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-emails-adtrader-lawsu... [2] https://www.searchenginejournal.com/adsense-lawsuit/248135/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/adsense-lawsuit/248135/
- Twirrim 7y ago
  If I sign out of my google account in Chrome it drops from 0.9 to 0.7. I could have sworn I'd never signed in to Chrome using my google account, but I guess I must have mistakenly signed in to gmail or something. I use FF as my main browser, only ever drop back to Chrome sporadically, or when I really want tabs to be completely isolated (there are some annoyingly CPU/power intensive stuff I do from time to time, and I can just renice Chrome while I get on with other stuff.)
  - lostmyoldone 7y ago
    I believe that's a "feature" they added a while back, auto-signing you into chrome as soon as you was logged into gmail.
  - oil25 7y ago
    > I could have sworn I'd never signed in to Chrome using my google account, but I guess I must have mistakenly signed in to gmail or something. Chrome 69 tricked users into signing into the browser, myself included - https://lifehacker.com/how-to-disable-chromes-automatic-sign-ins-in-version-70-1829819727 https://lifehacker.com/how-to-disable-chromes-automatic-sign... That was the last straw to uninstall Chrome from all my devices and I've been a happy Firefox user ever since. Well, except now reCAPTCHA hardly ever works.
- asark 7y ago
  Google consistently gives me the impression of a company that (I suppose) has tons of smart people in it, but has badly broken management & incentive structures leading them to constantly do bafflingly stupid stuff at both large and small scales, even by the standards of a bigcorp, to the point that they survive only because they've got one hell of a golden goose.
- stirfrykitty 7y ago
  Good info. Thank you. And in keeping with recent revelations on Google's manipulation of search results, I think they have really gone beyond the pale. I un-archived my old iPhone two days ago and went back to iOS after the James O'Keefe/Project Veritas revelations. I now cannot, in good conscience, use anything Google. I always knew about the tracking and all that because, after all, they are an ad company. I'm now in the process of moving all of my domains over to Fastmail, which I've used since 2002. I'm using Qwant, Startpage, and DDG for search. FF for browser with many about:config tweaks and several add-ons.
owaislone 7y ago
I get 0.9 on Firefox which is my main browser and 0.7 on Chrome which I use only for hangouts.

fybe 7y ago

Interesting. I get a 0.7 on Chrome with no account logged in and uBlock Origin installed. Same browser, same plugin but incognito it's 0.1. Papa google needs my data to trust me. Makes complete sense but still interesting that you can affect your score by giving in.

sleavey 7y ago

I get 0.1 continuously, possibly because I have resist fingerprinting enabled in Firefox. I'm not changing anything to compensate that score; it shows I must be doing something right. If I encounter a reCAPTCHA I will continue to (usually) just leave the site it's on.

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
Same, the way to look at a low score is "I'm getting privacy right".

del82 7y ago

Oscillates between 0.1 and 0.7 for me, and I'm changing nothing on my end (just hitting "Try again"). Does it have to do with refresh speed, I wonder? Privacy Badger and ABP on my work (less-locked-down) Mac.

SquareWheel 7y ago
Hitting the same URL over and over again is bot-like behaviour. When working with reCaptcha on forms I usually start getting hit after 4-5 test submissions.

danShumway 7y ago

With Firefox fingerprint resisting turned on and with Ublock Origin/UMatrix, I get a score of 0.1. And I'm not even on a VPN; I'm sure on my home network I'd have an even lower score. To me, it feels like Google's entire strategy behind reCaptcha is to make it harder to protect your privacy. We've basically given up on the idea that there are tasks only humans can do, and to me V3 feels like Google openly saying, "You know how we can prove you're not a robot? Because we literally know exactly who you are." I don't even know if it should be called a captcha -- it feels like it's just identity verification. I don't think this is an acceptable tradeoff. I know that when reCaptcha shows up on HN there's often a crowd that says, "but how else can we block bots?" I'm gonna draw a personal line in the sand and say that I think protecting privacy is more important than stopping bots. If your website can't stop bots without violating my privacy, then I'm starting to feel like I might be on the bots' side.

nothis 7y ago
I’m just waiting for the AI-generates fake people and whatever way they will come up to monetize that!
fasicle 7y ago
Not sure how much Ublock Origin makes a difference. I have a score of 0.9 with it turned on.
- asdff 7y ago
  I think this score is fishy. Ran the test three times and got three different scores.
  - ravenstine 7y ago
    I get the exact same score no matter what browser I use, despite uBlock Origin & Privacy Badger & Decentraleyes, even in private mode and with a VPN connection from a country I normally don't use. Hmmmmm...
  - megous 7y ago

sdegutis 7y ago

It didn't load for me and I couldn't figure out why. Then I remembered that I put this in my /etc/hosts a few weeks ago and forgot about it. 127.0.0.1 google.com 127.0.0.1 www.google.com [Edit] So if nothing shows up for you on that page, check for that. Also I just generally recommend it. Google has some unethical practices and duckduckgo.com is pretty good.

ordu 7y ago
I got "reCAPTCHA script loading". You need not to use hosts to block it, uMatrix could do it by itself.

TheArcane 7y ago

I use the same extensions on desktop and get 0.3 on my android Firefox

superasn 7y ago

I too got 0.1 even though I'm not on a VPN, and have a stock FF installation with just uBlock addon. I think my ISP may have some part in it but still 0.1 score is 100% bot right? I'm also logged into google and fb which also doesn't affect my score. Only shows how broken their algorithm is :( edit: just tried it with chrome and my score jumped to 0.9! So definitely not my ISP. It's just my browser that Recaptcha doesn't like. If you put two and two together that's really evil shit, even for Google!

Loulybob 7y ago

Using chrome on my phone I get 0.9, but if I switch to Firefox I get 0.1. This is essentially going to let Google gatekeep the web if you aren't using their services.

Fogest 7y ago
Really? I don't think so. I get a 0.9 on Google Chrome, and a 0.7 on Firefox. I heavily use Chrome and I have not used Firefox apart from maybe testing some local websites. Despite this I still got 0.7 on there. I expected lower since I don't use the browser.
- Drdrdrq 7y ago
  On a flip side: you really should check privacy settings in your Firefox, it seems Google can track you easily there. ;)
  - Ftuuky 7y ago
    I use Firefox with Google container and uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger and also get a score of 0.7 How can I get better privacy settings?
    - Drdrdrq 7y ago
      I was being sarcastic - high score on captcha probably means G knows too much about you. That said, I don't think the scores are reliable. It is possible (probable even) that G is still running experiments.

zhte415 7y ago

A consistent 0.3. > error-codes": ["score-threshold-not-met"] Not sure if happy or not happy with that. I will conclude happy enough. Linux, on VPN, Firefox. Not logged into any Google services. Cleared caches (still same IP), no difference.

Zekio 7y ago

interesting my score is 0.9 if I allowed google to track me using cookies, if I block the cookies it goes to 0.7 and if I enable content blocking in Firefox it drops to 0.1

fisherjeff 7y ago

Using desktop Safari incognito without a Google account and Ghostery enabled, I get 0.7 too. Interestingly, disabling CSS drops me to 0.1...

jermaustin1 7y ago

What is most odd is I get 0.7 on iOS Safari which I use for 100% of my purposeful mobile browsing, but I get .9 on iOS Chrome, which is only used when I accidentally click on links from gmail (so very, very rarely).

lostlogin 7y ago
It seems a lot is iOS users get 0.7.
djrogers 7y ago
Not really odd at all - if you're using the gmail app, there's a shared authentication cookie in all Google apps - including Chrome, so Google knows who you are in Chrome.

ronjouch 7y ago

Using Firefox with uBlock and Cookie-Autodelete I get 0.1 Using Chrome, even incognito and with uBlock I get 0.7 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻. F you, Google, this is blatant bullying, technically unjustifyable abuse of your stranglehold over the whole web platform.

rbobrowicz 7y ago
To offer a different datapoint: On FireFox with uBlock on and logged into my corporate gmail I get 0.9, switching to a private tab I get 0.7. This is with every privacy setting turned on in the FF options.
- dvaun 7y ago
  I also have a similar result (0.7) using my browser at work. I am using containers, uBlock, privacy badger and auto-delete cookies.

gpm 7y ago

Firefox mobile w/ ublock: 0.9

llao 7y ago

> NOTE:This is a sample implementation, the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic.

josteink 7y ago
This comment should probably be higher up in the thread.
- on_and_off 7y ago
  It is both funny and sad to read this thread.

lucb1e 7y ago

This looks like a RNG: I got 0.7, 0.9, and 0.1 successively. It can't make up its mind whether I'm almost certainly not a bot (0.9) or almost certainly a bot (0.1)?

shawnz 7y ago
Perhaps the rapid, repeated identical requests outweighed the initial factors which gave you a positive response
- lucb1e 7y ago
  Might very well be. I also get errors on hacker news about "can't process requests that fast". When asking about it (initially because I thought votes didn't work randomly), the limit is a few requests per second. Turns out I click faster than that, either by reading a whole comment thread and making up my mind whose comments were most helpful (to upvote all at once) or by navigating too fast.
on_and_off 7y ago
from the link >the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic I got random scores as well. It looks like this is just a sample of the data structure that the service returns, not the actual score.
- lucb1e 7y ago
  That would be a useless site, but that's not how I read it. I understand it as "this is not that Google thinks your account is a bot, it's that this request might be made by a bot. And since you didn't use this site as a normal website, it also doesn't score your type of traffic, just this one request". You might be right, but it really does seem to be doing a request to their API.
  - on_and_off 7y ago
    >That would be a useless site looks like it is a demo of the API for people wanting to consume it. knowing what the payload looks like is not useless at all in this case.

xahrepap 7y ago

I get .9 in Firefox on my MBP with UBlock Origin installed. I wondered if it was because I was logged in to Google, so I tried Incognito and got .7. In a never-before-used container I also get .7.

throwayEngineer 7y ago
Is it safe to be using Firefox and Apple right now? Did they fix the 0 day?

qqii 7y ago

Seeing what everyone else has posted I'm very suprised that I've received a 0.3 using Chrome on Android. I'm logged in to Google and most of my browsing is via Chrome or Chrome based webview. At least on my phone I've never cleared my cookies or done anything special.

keiru 7y ago

>Please upgrade to a supported browser to get a reCAPTCHA challenge I guess this is a 0 for me then

KumarAseem 7y ago

I got 0.7 on FF, 0.3 on Opera and Chrome, all in incognito mode. Maybe they have just a few values and return it based on AND OR logic of 2-4 variable. Or maybe they are just playing around trying to gather some stats, for some "Don't be Evil" purpose!

qwsxyh 7y ago

Firefox with uBlock O I get 0.9. Don't know what everyone else here is talking about.

shawnz 7y ago

Contrary to the results here, using Firefox + uBlock with DNT and tracking protection enabled, I get a score of 0.9. In private browsing mode it's 0.7. I wonder how many people here are using a VPN or accessing from a non-western country -- I'd bet those are much bigger factors

jedberg 7y ago
Were you logged into your Google account? That seems to almost guarantee a .9
- shawnz 7y ago
  Yes, although not when private browsing of course.

Grue3 7y ago

Work Firefox which I use all the time, no addons (including any adblockers): 0.1 Almost unused Chrome installation, also without addons: 0.7

eswat 7y ago

FF logged into Google account: 0.9 FF incognito window not logged into Google account: 0.7 FF incognito window not logged into Google account through VPN: 0.3 FYI I have uBlock, pi-hole and a bunch of privacy widgets enabled

helper 7y ago

I get 0.7 in both desktop (linux) chrome and firefox. I get 0.3 from android chrome.

bluetidepro 7y ago

I got a 0.9. What's it out of? 1? Sorry if I completely missed that somewhere already.

jk2faster 7y ago
Yes, it is out of 1. From https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3 https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3, > reCAPTCHA v3 returns a score (1.0 is very likely a good interaction, 0.0 is very likely a bot).

minieggs 7y ago

Stock Qutebrowser 0.7, FF w/ all the usual extensions (ublock origin) 0.7. Don't know if it matters but I'm rolling Arch. Just adding another point of data for those curious.

denzil_correa 7y ago

It gives me 0.7 on Safari (uBlock Origin) while 0.3 on Chrome (uBlock Origin) - both macOS Mojave.

ilikehurdles 7y ago

With desktop Chrome I get a 0.3. My browser sends Do Not Track, has PrivacyBadger extension, and has that useless google-profile-in-the-browser feature disabled.

chenshuiluke 7y ago

I get 0.9 on my Firefox

pdimitar 7y ago

iPhone with a good (not amazing) adblocker: 0.7 Safari macOS with the same adblocker: 0.7 Firefox macOS with a lot of adblockers: 0.1

jedberg 7y ago

From my computer, where I browse fairly equally with all three of Chrome, Safari, and Firefox (albeit different sites), I get the following scores: Chrome: .9 Safari: .7 Firefox: .1 I have adblock running on all three, and I use containers on Firefox.

fibers 7y ago

Interestingly enough I got .9 on Edge with Ublock origin installed. Perhaps this has something to do with how Edge is using webkit now?

sarathyweb 7y ago

I got 0.9 in my Android phone running chrome. When I opened it in incognito mode, my score was reduced to 0.7

wil421 7y ago

The first time it failed the second time I got a .7 iPhone Xs.

archy_ 7y ago

Google is putting a number on us, is honestly some Minority Report level dystopia. Google is already using this to make life hell for anyone who cares about their privacy, we need to do something about this before they finish putting up their iron curtain over the web. Would it be possible to sue website owners for requiring such invasive measures? I'd love to see this ruled as monopoly power and Google broken up but that's probably not very realistic so we would probably do better to make using Google captchas more expensive in court costs alone than just building their own solutions to fight bots.

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zcid 7y ago

So, I still have to whitelist Google in uMatrix and allow cookies for this to work. Even after doing so, I get a 0.1. I reloaded the page to check for variation as some other users mentioned but get the same score each time. I guess Google is saying I shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.

GordonS 7y ago

0.3 with Brave on Android, no extensions. 0.9 with Chrome on the same device, same connection. Brave isn't particularly "unusual", and is even based on Chromium - surely this is Google blatantly punishing non-Chrome users?

ma2rten 7y ago

I got 0.9 on Chrome, logged into google. I also got 0.9 on Firefox, not logged into google. In incognito mode in chrome, I sometimes get 0.9 and sometimes 0.7 when I reload.

nprateem 7y ago

This is total bullshit. My score of 0.1 in firefox shoots up to 0.9 if I change my user agent to ChromeOS. No other changes - same set of ghostery/ad blocker/fingerprinting prevention, etc. What a scam.

sieabahlpark 7y ago
Ding ding ding ding, Google's way of killing the other browsers in the market for good, kill off the adblockers manifest, literally become the entity which monitors the internet as much as the NSA...