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Oracle Dyn DNS Services Shutting Down in 2020

• gingerlime 7y ago
  I was a Dyn customer since the late 90s (I think...). In the early(ish) days they offered a lifetime DNS service for something like $30, so I jumped on the opportunity. I don't think there was much else around at the time... All things considered, I managed to get a pretty good deal out of it. Can't really complain, can I? Anyone knows a good alternative with simple DDNS updaters?
  • jgrahamc 7y ago
    Lots of people use our DNS and update via the API to make dynamic DNS. https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020524512-Manage-dynamic-IPs-in-Cloudflare-DNS-programmatically https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/36002052451...
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    • sls 7y ago
      I wonder if you would want to add a link to that page about setting up Cloudflare dynamic DNS on a Synology NAS? That's my use case, and I found a script[1] and a page[2] where people were having some success using it. [1] https://github.com/joshuaavalon/SynologyCloudflareDDNS https://github.com/joshuaavalon/SynologyCloudflareDDNS [2] https://luvis.se/tipstricks/set-up-dynamic-dns-with-cloudflare-on-synology-dsm-6/ https://luvis.se/tipstricks/set-up-dynamic-dns-with-cloudfla...
    • kissgyorgy 7y ago
      Me too :) https://github.com/kissgyorgy/cloudflare-dyndns https://github.com/kissgyorgy/cloudflare-dyndns
  • zackbloom 7y ago
    In addition to what @jgrahamc said, another good option for some services is to use a Cloudflare Argo Tunnel. Spin it up on your local machine, and web traffic will be routed to it without having to open your firewall, DMZ, etc. It also has a free tier now: https://blog.cloudflare.com/a-free-argo-tunnel-for-your-next-project/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/a-free-argo-tunnel-for-your-next...
  • thomersch_ 7y ago
    I like and use nsupdate.info for years. Also: It's free software.
  • adamkittelson 7y ago
    I recently moved a MUD I host from cloud services to a little System76 box in my laundry room. I use dnsimple.com for my domains and they have an API, so I just added a little task to my MUD server to periodically check my ip address via https://api.ipify.org/ https://api.ipify.org/ and then check what I have for my A record in dnsimple's API, if it differs I update it.
  • acheron 7y ago
    At the time it was specifically "dyndns.org", because there was a separate "dyndns.com" company that they eventually bought out, IIRC. > All things considered, I managed to get a pretty good deal out of it. Was a good run for sure.
  • m-p-3 7y ago
    I found duckdns a while ago, I use it to tinker with ephemeral / non-production stuff.
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  • iforgotpassword 7y ago
    I'm currently using dynv6. Despite the name they also support A records. :-) Nothing overly fancy, useable via simple curl calls. I'm just using it to reach my home server, so if you want more advanced features ymmv.
  • microtherion 7y ago
    I've used dns.he.net recently. Seems to work, and you can't argue with the price.
  • nybble41 7y ago
    > Anyone knows a good alternative with simple DDNS updaters? Personally I just use Amazon's Route 53 and a ~150 line shell script wrapping awscli[1] to update the records. It's not ddclient but it gets the job done. Cost averages about $1.51/mo. for the DNS service and annual domain renewal—that's for a $12/yr. .info domain; other TLDs will vary. The DNS service pricing depends on the traffic, but at only $0.01 per 25,000 queries it's probably not a significant factor for most of the sites that would benefit from dynamic DNS. [1] http://willwarren.com/2014/07/03/roll-dynamic-dns-service-using-amazon-route53/ http://willwarren.com/2014/07/03/roll-dynamic-dns-service-us...
  • lbatx 7y ago
    If you paid the $30, you might be considered to be on the Pro plan. I (like others in this thread) received an email stating that Pro service will continue uninterrupted, and no action is required on my part.
  • jamesholden 7y ago
    I'm surprised people haven't mentioned https://https://www.duckdns.org/ https://https://www.duckdns.org/
• apple4ever 7y ago
  This isn't surprising, but still upsetting. First as noted, no Dynamic DNS or DNSSEC?? REALLY?? Come on. Second as also noted, the migration is manually! You have to download a zone record and upload it, and that's after manually creating your account. I'll be switching to Cloudflare. Been considering it for a while, but now it makes sense.
  • ttul 7y ago
    My thoughts exactly. Oracle's loss is Cloudflare's gain...
  • rcj4747 7y ago
    No dynamic DNS? This is literally the name of the company they bought. And the migration is just a sign up for a new service after exporting my zone config? They really don't care about losing customers it would seem. Easy enough, my router supports domains.google.com for ddns and my domain registration is already there, it's time for DNS to follow it.
    • behringer 7y ago
      They didn't buy it in order to offer dynamic dns.
    • dheera 7y ago
      In general, as a user, if a product you are using gets acquired it's a good reason to move away from it ASAP. More often than not acquirers kill products and keep the talent.
      • throw_away 7y ago
        And sometimes, they don't even keep the talent: https://www.unionleader.com/news/business/workers-at-oracle-dyn-expect-to-hear-of-layoffs-tuesday/article_f555f585-c0bb-59dd-a6ea-03190e041023.html https://www.unionleader.com/news/business/workers-at-oracle-...
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• petzl 7y ago
  FUCK YOU ORACLE ! I WILL NEVER USE A ORACLE PRODUCT AGAIN
• jpollock 7y ago
  As a lesson to anyone else hoping to do a shutdown with a migration to a different service with your company. If you are going to treat me the same as any new subscriber, where I have to re-signup, re-add my payment method, export my settings and then import them again, you're asking me to buy all over again. If you ask me to buy, then I get will reevaluate the relationship, and if it's just as easy to migrate to another supplier I will move. Migrating internally should have been "push this button to accept the new terms and pricing, you don't even need to talk with your registrar." I've been a Dyn customer for over a decade, and now I'm moving because it's just as easy to move as it is to stay, and I do not want to have to type in "oracle.com" to manage my service.
  • walrus01 7y ago
    As a person that utterly detests oracle's db software licensing model, every time I see a sales pitch from Oracle I mentally translate it as "Larry Ellison needs a bigger yacht".
    • tyingq 7y ago
      He owns an entire Hawaiian island. We're past the bigger yacht stage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai
      • walrus01 7y ago
        I bet you could exceed $300m on a yacht if you went to the top tier yacht builders with a blank check and said "build me something bigger than the largest yacht owned by the wealthiest saudi royal"
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  • vidanay 7y ago
    That's pretty much exactly how the transition is for me: Dear Customer, Since Oracle acquired Dyn in 2016 and subsequently acquired Zenedge. The engineering teams have been working diligently to integrate Dyn’s products and network into the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure platform. A majority of Dyn products have now been integrated and upgraded on the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. Accordingly, DynDNS Pro/Remote Access is decoupling from the Dyn brand and business unit this summer, and will remain a business unit within Oracle. Your organization has the right to access and use DynDNS Pro/Remote Access. This product will continue to be available from Oracle without any disruption of service and no action is required on your part at this time.
• kaustubhvp 7y ago
  This is very much Oracle. Killing competition by just buying good tech and closing it down.
  • andrewbinstock 7y ago
    >This is very much Oracle This is very much large companies.
    • smacktoward 7y ago
      You can always tell when they're completely done digesting an acquisition, because the digestive process always ends with a belch like this.
    • jjuhl 7y ago
      True. But Oracle is exceptionally good at it.
  • pivo 7y ago
    I'm not an Oracle fan, but what Oracle product did DynDNS compete with? It seems more likely that they bought the people/tech for the Oracle cloud effort and didn't care at all about DynDNS business, which seemed like pretty small potatoes by Oracle standards.
  • NikkiA 7y ago
    It was DynDNS's business too, EasyDNS and EveryDNS were both great services with excellent free options til DynDNS bought them out and shut them down.
• pmlnr 7y ago
  Digitalocean has a free dns service plus an api. All you need is a cron based api call and you have dynamic dns.
  • sergiomattei 7y ago
    I did not know this. Source/docs?
    • andrenotgiant 7y ago
      Here's a good place to start: https://www.digitalocean.com/docs/networking/dns/overview/ https://www.digitalocean.com/docs/networking/dns/overview/ As a note: you'll have to add a valid payment method on DigitalOcean to activate your account, but once you're in it's free to use all the DNS features, and you can automate via the API, docs here: https://developers.digitalocean.com/documentation/v2/#domains https://developers.digitalocean.com/documentation/v2/#domain...
      • netllama 7y ago
        That doesn't give me good vibes. They're surely going to attempt to monetize it at some point. What's the benefit for digitalocean to providing a 'free' service?
        • fharper 7y ago
          Note that I'm a Developer Advocate at DigitalOcean. AFAIK, there is no plans to move to paid service. It makes sense to make DNS management easier for developers if you have your applications or websites running on our droplets.
• notacoward 7y ago
  Yet again, proving that Oracle is the computing industry's graveyard.
  • zxcvbn4038 7y ago
    I call Oracle the Black Thumb. Everything they touch, aside from their flagship database, dies. Java. Sun. BerkleyDB. Mysql. Taleo. Larry Ellison might be the 4th horseman - he dresses the part.
    • the_duke 7y ago
      I'm not a fan of Oracle by any measure, but what you are stating just is not true. MySql is going strong and is very actively developed. (even if Oracle is predictably trying to have more features in the Enterprise Edition). I'd still always choose Postgres, but that's besides the point. Java has undergone very positive modernization and change over the last couple of years, following a long period of stagnation, and is the opposite of dying. (Also here, one has to warn though that Oracle is probably trying to abandon the JVM in the long term and move over to GraalVM for monetization).
      • cdkee 7y ago
        On top of that, Oracle still makes hardware. I don't think they can be blamed for stagnating interest in that area.
      • MrStonedOne 7y ago
        Mysql is dead, long live mariadb
        • zxcvbn4038 7y ago
          Ditto. Amazon’s Aurora is nice also.
• thiagoc 7y ago
  I'm a happy user of Afraid's FreeDNS: https://freedns.afraid.org https://freedns.afraid.org Edit: I'm not affiliatted with the service, I just really like it.
  • WaxProlix 7y ago
    What a throwback. It's great to see that their service is still trucking along.
  • Ayesh 7y ago
    Joshua is a really friendly and generous one to run it for all these years. I'd trust this than some corporate who didn't bother to migrate customers.
  • blacksmith_tb 7y ago
    Yes! I have used it for years, it Just Works.
• AimForTheBushes 7y ago
  Perfect opportunity for existing customers to migrate to a different service.
• kissgyorgy 7y ago
  You don't need no dynamic DNS service. Cloudflare is free for this with way more cool features. Here is a little command line script for the Cloudflare REST API which you can use to update A records for domains at Cloudflare: https://github.com/kissgyorgy/cloudflare-dyndns https://github.com/kissgyorgy/cloudflare-dyndns
• thrownaway954 7y ago
  you should mention that this is just for people on the FREE plan. If you are a paying customer (the PRO version), you are NOT affected.
  • jssjjssj 7y ago
    That's not true. All plans are affected, and once you "upgrade" to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, you're moved to a Pay As You Go plan >Now that this integration work is complete, Oracle is announcing the end-of-life of the DNS service in favor of our upgraded version on the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure Platform. On May 31, 2020, the “EOL Date”, the DNS will be retired and will no longer be available. The upgrade to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure will require some actions on your part and must be completed on or before the EOL Date. >You can also upgrade when your current Oracle Dyn or Zenedge contract expires on [contact-end-date]. If you chose to not upgrade by the time your contract renews, your right to access and use the service will be moved to a month to month subscription governed by your current agreement until May 31, 2020. If you do not have auto-renew enabled, your service will end based on your agreement.
    • apple4ever 7y ago
      Correct. I've been paying $12/month for the Managed DNS service.
• CaliforniaKarl 7y ago
  Thanks very much for posting this! I also am a Dyn customer, and I discovered that Apple Mail moved the notification into Junk.
  • GrumpyNl 7y ago
    Based on what? Im asking because with bad thinking, this could be one of the greatest marketing moves.
• 0172 7y ago
  The only reason I was with Dyn is because they acquired EveryDNS. The cycle of big fish eating the little fish continues.
• E7amar 7y ago
  I used to use https://dns-api.com https://dns-api.com .You do stuff with git and it's basically Route53 plus it's cheap (1£ per domain)
• jason_slack 7y ago
  Pro services are NOT shutting down though, right? My e-mail says this: Dear Customer, Since Oracle acquired Dyn in 2016 and subsequently acquired Zenedge. The engineering teams have been working diligently to integrate Dyn’s products and network into the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure platform. A majority of Dyn products have now been integrated and upgraded on the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. Accordingly, DynDNS Pro/Remote Access is decoupling from the Dyn brand and business unit this summer, and will remain a business unit within Oracle. Your organization has the right to access and use DynDNS Pro/Remote Access. This product will continue to be available from Oracle without any disruption of service and no action is required on your part at this time.
• kerouanton 7y ago
  I didn't renew my Dyn subscrition a few months ago, considering they had increased their pricing model and offered nothing new. And being owned by "evil" Oracle didn't help. Today it's relatively easy to build a self-hosted dynamic DNS equivalent, e.g. https://github.com/dprandzioch/docker-ddns https://github.com/dprandzioch/docker-ddns so I'm in the process of solving the issue like this.
  • henryfjordan 7y ago
    isn't the point of dynamic DNS that it's not self-hosted? It should be on a static IP somewhere outside the network/IP you want to monitor. I run a server at home and I can always just go update my DNS records to some new IP but the catch is I cannot ssh home without knowing the new IP address, hence the point of a dynamic DNS service. If you host that in the same network, what's the point? You lose access to it too.
    • Rychard 7y ago
      From the README of the linked repository: > All you need is a cheap VPS, a domain and access to it's nameserver. I personally find it a bit misleading to classify this as being "self-hosted", seeing as how it's effectively the same as every other dynamic DNS service.
• klinquist 7y ago
  I have a bash script that runs as a cron to get my current external IP address every ~5 minutes. If it has changed, it updates AWS Route53 with the new IP. Route53 costs $1/mo (for a zone = domain) and DNS lookups are basically free.
• rkagerer 7y ago
  I'm confused. What happens to DynDns accounts that have been paid-up beyond 2020 or folks that bought the "lifetime" subscription?
  • Symbiote 7y ago
    I have a lifetime subscription, and received the same email saying service is ending.
    • leesalminen 7y ago
      The product's lifetime, not yours ;).
• g051051 7y ago
  I'm confused. Are you sure that this affects the dynamic DNS? The free version went away years ago, but the "pro" version is still listed as available for sale on the dyn.com web site.
• durnygbur 7y ago
  As a pre-Oracle customer of DynDNS because they had some obscure TLDs at good prices - geez. Oracle took them over, tripled the prices for these TDLs, and then torn DynDNS into pieces. Brutal.
• edaemon 7y ago
  They are also completely ending support for DNS in mainland China: >Please note, however, that the China Network is being retired. On May 31, 2020, the “EOL Date”, the China Network will no longer be available, and you will need to find another provider.
• gesman 7y ago
  ...or ZeroTier :)
• nairobi222 7y ago
  Joshua is a really friendly and generous one to run it for all these years. I'd trust this than some corporate who didn't bother to migrate customers. reply
• dekhn 7y ago
  I got this email and immediately moved my vanity domain to Amazon Route 53.
• jimnotgym 7y ago
  I don't need dynamic DNS but was thinking about moving domains at new job to dyn:-I used it at 'developer' and 'pro' levels in the past. I liked the analytics, and the central management. I am now in the market for something else. What are the options for small enterprise dns? Cloudflare? Route53? What else