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These drug markets are open to the entire internet and the customers and suppliers are global. The fact that US officials consider this their jurisdiction is tr
by Sargos 7y ago
These drug markets are open to the entire internet and the customers and suppliers are global. The fact that US officials consider this their jurisdiction is troubling to say the least. All of this, in my opinion, unsafe propagation of misinformation is harmful to all users of the service and not just those based in the US.
Would we be okay if Russia decided that Facebook breaks its laws and then went and created fake profiles to cause enough disturbances to make people quit using the service? I would think not.
- vkou 7y ago> These drug markets are open to the entire internet and the customers and suppliers are global. The fact that US officials consider this their jurisdiction is troubling to say the least. If you're marketing securities to US citizens, that part of your operations is under the jurisdiction of the SEC. If you're selling food to US citizens, that part of your operations is under the jurisdiction of the FDA. If you're selling drugs to US citizens, that part of your operations is under the jurisdiction of the DEA. I don't understand what's troubling about it. Don't want to be under the jurisdiction of US agencies? Don't do business in the US.
- nameismypw 7y ago> Don't want to be under the jurisdiction of US agencies? Don't do business in the US. The Internet is not "business in the US," hence GP's comment. Am I "doing business in the US" by posting this comment? This is really just digital hegemony from the USA.
- lagg 7y agoSorry for being mildly off-topic but the other comment with regards to police being complete morons and causing violence on purpose is pretty much my take on the situation. Definitely justifies my incredulity at the idea. Even the idea of getting weed in a legal state through the mail is strange to me. Let alone this. That said, good luck convincing a great portion of Americans that the US isn't the end-all be-all authority on the internet and that's where all the packets go like a big funnel. Like we never went beyond campuses, token rings and pre-OSI model hackery. The logic is: We engineered the prototype, therefore internet always murika #1. (Signed, an American happy that foreigners are finally calling us out on this behavior. Literally took you centuries)
- chii 7y ago> The Internet is not "business in the US," then why does GDPR affect US companies as well?
- noobiemcfoob 7y agoBecause of the same misguided sense of hegemony the parent references.
- arwineap 7y agoGDPR does not affect US companies that do not collect EU citizens information.
- IIAOPSW 7y agoYou make a good point about extraterritoriality in general, but in the case of the most recent busts the lead org was actually the Germans. Really when you see the domains seized there's always about half a dozen European/anglosphere police logos claiming credit. The persecution/prosecution of drug users is a multilateral agreement not US big stick diplo.
- toomanybeersies 7y agoNot that I agree with what the US is doing, but there is kind of an international law against narcotics, the UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs [1], so I can see how how US officials consider it their jurisdiction. It's the same sort of thing with child pornography and slavery. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_...