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The frontpage with a threshold of 100 points

256 points by pg 16y ago

swah 16y ago
http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=9000 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=9000
- shazow 16y ago
  Finally, a hackernews I can keep up with.
- hasenj 16y ago
  http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=500 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=500 Only thing there is the Heroku acquisition
- pg 16y ago
  Getting no results from over doesn't mean there haven't been any items with that many points (though in fact there haven't been any with 9000 points). Over doesn't pull stuff off disk. It just applies a stricter filter to the pool of recent stories from which the frontpage is generated.
  - warp 16y ago
    I assume swah wasn't expecting any results, it is most likely a reference to http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-over-9000 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-over-9000 .
jscore 16y ago
Great, as I was JUST thinking of making a chrome extension to filter posts with 100+ points.
- Groxx 16y ago
  I've been thinking along those lines as well, but it's kinda hairy to do so... you'd have to load a few (or many, depending on the limit) pages, and inject their results into the viewed-page. Seems like more bandwidth than it's worth. This is (obviously) a better solution though.
jeffmiller 16y ago
Twitter feed with a threshold of 100 points: http://twitter.com/newsyc100 http://twitter.com/newsyc100
- chrisaycock 16y ago
  Hopefully quant.ly will some day need its own threshold.
- eneveu 16y ago
  Twitter feed is nice, but the RSS feed is a lot more useful IMO ( http://feeds.feedburner.com/newsyc100 http://feeds.feedburner.com/newsyc100 ). When I first saw your post ( http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-news-overload http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-ne... ), I missed the RSS feed links, and started looking for ways to convert a twitter feed to an RSS feed (I use Google Reader)... But then I saw the light :) By the way, thanks a lot for making this, Jeff. I've been using your feeds almost daily since August. I used to spend a lot of time scanning the /best page for unread articles. No more!
revorad 16y ago
Wow, looks a lot more interesting.
quizbiz 16y ago
It just occurred to me that while I vote up great comments, I don't remember the last time I gave an up-vote to a thread. Am I atypical?
- lukeschlather 16y ago
  I doubt it. I think most of us are deliberately conservative to offset the lack of downvotes.
  - forza 16y ago
    Isn't that the opposite to what you should do? If you are interested in curbing 'bad' stories you should probably vote for more stories, effectively 'downvoting' what you don't vote for.
    - swolchok 16y ago
      Not if you think that a lot of crap gets voted up and truly good stories are few and far between.
Groxx 16y ago
Doesn't seem precise... http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=489 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=489 (489) doesn't see a thread with 490 points, but http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=484 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=484 (484) does. Caching? Rounding? Thread in question: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1990498 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1990498 Still, awesome, many thanks! Especially because it drags up a bunch of good-but-older entries that I may have missed.
- pg 16y ago
  Oops, that was a bug; fixed.
  - Groxx 16y ago
    Yup, works now. Thanks again!
  - swah 16y ago
    See, static typing won't help you there!
    - Groxx 16y ago
      I totally got a "where is your god now?!"[1] vibe from this. [1]: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/24/where-is-your-dog-now/ http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/24/where-is-your-dog-n...
Encosia 16y ago
Of course, if many people used that threshold, almost no story would ever reach 100 points in the first place.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  This, to me, seems to be the dilemma. The more features like this there are, filtering the input so we only see the "good stuff", the fewer eyes there are on the new submissions, and so the greater the chance that really some excellent submissions will never be seen. More and more we're suggesting that people look at the "newest" page instead of just the "news" page to try to make sure that good submissions get their chance, and bad submissions get flagged, and yet here's another facility to take people away from the "newest" page. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great facility, and I'm pretty sure I'll be using it on occasion, but I'll also hang out on the "newest" page, because that's where the genuinely interesting stuff appears, often getting no upvotes, because it was never seen.
  - mooism2 16y ago
    Maybe "front-page-with-100-points" is the sort of place newbies should be encouraged to check, and mainly more established users should be encouraged to check "newest".
  - ladoo3 16y ago
    Any ideas on how to encourage readers to look at the "newest" page more often?
- pg 16y ago
  That's why (for now at least) I'm not making it too easy to. It would be trivial to add a threshold field in the profile and use that as a cutoff when generating the frontpage for each user, but since I'm not sure I want encourage this, I haven't yet. The whole thing is just an experiment.
  - dochtman 16y ago
    Maybe there should be a random one or two links from the newest page at the top (or the right) of the normal front page?
dholowiski 16y ago
Even better I changed it to 200 points and found some great gems I had missed.
_delirium 16y ago
Any chance of a ranged version, like "over 5, but under 200"? For some reason, while upvoted stories are mostly good, the most upvoted stories less often interest me, since they seem to be disproportionately about politics, business, self-help/motivation, or some sort of drama. This list is almost a perfect list of stories I'd like to filter out: http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best (ok, there's some good stuff in there too, but it's not bad as a heuristic).
- xenophanes 16y ago
  plus stuff with 500 points stays on the list longer, can get too stale
  - listic 16y ago
    No, articles get deprecated quite soon anyway. Try substituting 100 for 500 in the URL: you only get 1 article currently.
    - xenophanes 16y ago
      You're wrong and that test is misleading. http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=200 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=200 I'm seeing 380 points, 11 days old is ahead of 205 points and 4 days old.
- greendestiny 16y ago
  Someone had a site (I can't remember the details but surely someone will chime in) with custom HN ranking of points divided by number of comments. It was surprisingly effective, though that might have just been the nature of the top stories at the time I checked it. If it did work it would be by also filtering out political and other call-to-action type posts particularly. I'm with you, I hate the drama posts. I have a kind of half-arsed theory that what I dislike in the evolution of social sites is the inherent community building. I think it tends to get too self-referential.
blehn 16y ago
Is it just me, or have the front page point totals exploded in the last few months? pg — care to share any traffic data?
- petercooper 16y ago
  I've also noticed this. Seemed to be between September-November to me. Links fly off of the first page of /new a lot quicker than before and I've seen a lot of good ones get no further than 2 or 3 points - it's a crapshoot when you submit something now. I've also had a lot more people contact me with "check out this post" type stuff.
  - ww520 16y ago
    One of the purposes of Previous Look is to capture the fast changing content of a webpage like /new so that past content can be reviewed quickly. For now http://www.previouslook.com/hnews/new http://www.previouslook.com/hnews/new has an 15-minute interval snapshot window, which seems to be enough to not miss anything.
    - petercooper 16y ago
      I like it, though I might stick to the version I developed two months ago - http://hackerslide.com/ http://hackerslide.com/ - as I prefer HN's natural colors ;-)
      - ww520 16y ago
        That looks cool! Good work.
- pg 16y ago
  We now get about 80k unique visitors on weekdays. There hasn't been any sudden spike.
gcv 16y ago
While this is a really, really tempting front page, won't this just encourage groupthink? HN doesn't suffer from this as much it might, but it has its share. In addition, interesting stories languish unnoticed on /newest all the time, and if enough people switch to an >100 front page, articles with just 5-10 points have an even smaller chance of being noticed. pg, I'm sure you considered this problem; could you talk a bit about your thinking behind this filter?
- pg 16y ago
  could you talk a bit about your thinking behind this filter? "A lot of people have asked for it. It would be easy to write. Let's try it and see what happens."
  - netcan 16y ago
    Do you have some sort of pre-existing test for whether or not a feature is good at the time you implement it. Some way of knowing if it's good.
Nogwater 16y ago
Can we get filters like this for the official RSS feed?
- keyle 16y ago
  I agree, this would be very powerful coupled with something like feedmyinbox.
ary 16y ago
This has probably been suggested before, but can we just get rid of the points display (story, comment, & user) altogether? The automated sorting on this data has always been enough for me, and I can't think of a reason why any of us needs to know the exact point total of any of these things (except maybe karma). I suppose there are some out there that would like to know an individual user's karma as a quick indicator of worthiness for X. Aside from this I'd be thrilled to see the number games and measuring sticks go away.
- zacharycohn 16y ago
  That would be an interesting experiment in preventing the "snowball effect" of upvoting things that a lot of other people have upvoted. Enabling this on the front page, but leaving it on the thread itself would be an interesting experiment.
- tomn 16y ago
  This doesn't really work, because things with high points can be anywhere on the page after they've stopped getting votes -- if you look at the front page, the stories aren't in point order by any means. Although this would be bad for the community (people need to see the low-point articles for them to get voted on), you could have a page that sorts all stories by number of points, and allows you to remove them either by clicking on them, or marking them as uninteresting. It would solve the 'problem' of missing articles when I'm away at least. I guess you could have some kind of mix of new and highly voted articles, which could be interesting?
da5e 16y ago
I think this is great as an option where we can fill in our own threshold. It's another way to play with the feed. I prefer the "newest" setting myself. It's incredibly quick to scan the headlines to see what I'm in the mood for that day. Or I can search with "news.ycombinator.com: searchterm" if I'm looking some particular subject matter. But sometimes it's fun to visit the lists too. news.ycombinator.com/lists Perhaps a couple of those options should go on the top menu. Maybe the top menu should be Hacker News new 100+ searchterm best active bestcomments etc.
robwgibbons 16y ago
This post itself has almost 100 points. Soon it will be on the 100-point threshold page!
andrewljohnson 16y ago
Not that this type of experiment is bad, but why is the UI so completely neglected? Is this a matter of thinking it's not important, because it's not fun work, or because it can all be customized with grease monkeys? Or what? I think the quality of stories on HN is pretty good. What I'd much prefer to see any amount of attention given to is things like: 1) Let me take back a vote. Particularly on mobile, I misclick those tiny arrows a lot. 2) Let me comment inline. Having other comments, besides the parent around for examination while commenting would probably help overall comment quality. 3) Fix the mobile interface. It's impossible to use HN on mobile iPhone and Android handhelds. Making a slightly modified styled sheet with JavaScript is trivial. 4) Support someone making an app, or commission one. As far as I can tell, the current HN apps are all kind of buggy and have little updating. There are lots of young neophytes who'd love to work on this, particularly if sanctioned, and a funded effort would lead to a better product. These basic UI improvements don't even seem to be on the radar. Also, I'll add, the story-killing on this site is pretty heavy-handed, yet capricious. Same with the title-editing. What constitutes a "hacker-centric" story changes with the mood of the moderators, and the tendency to just change each title to the original headline is misguided. I also think that the special privileges given to YC companies corrupts the whole system. If there were any other community like this, people would be driven away by the neglected UI and the Star Chamber that governs the content. But there isn't, so there's no pressure to do anything but midnight HN science experiments. I should just pray for some competition I guess...
- silvestrov 16y ago
  A GlimmerBlocker filter which improves the layout for mobile: http://glimmerblocker.org/site/filters/mobile-optimized.xml http://glimmerblocker.org/site/filters/mobile-optimized.xml Pastebin version. css: http://pastebin.com/AE1UzYvU http://pastebin.com/AE1UzYvU js transform of html source: http://pastebin.com/9069JULs http://pastebin.com/9069JULs Most of the improvements could be made by a seperate mobile stylesheet if more classNames were added to the generated html.
- da5e 16y ago
  The simplicity of the design is one of the main things I like about this site. It's like the things I make for myself: a handy tool.
abecedarius 16y ago
Upvoted just 'cause it was at 99 points. [Added: I think the temptation to do this shows a (minor and obvious) misincentive, like we used to see on IRC when I published weekly stats on the chat in #C.]
itsnotvalid 16y ago
Is there any link to this new feature instead of manually typing this or saving this to a bookmark (or any other ways besides a proper hyper-link)?
damoncali 16y ago
I'd prefer under?points=x The very highly upvoted articles seem more likely to be trendy and/or sensational.
gasull 16y ago
Twitter and RSS feeds for HN stories over 20, 50, 100 and 150 points: http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-news-overload http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-ne... EDIT: Why the downvotes?
bootload 16y ago
the choice of 100pts is pretty good though it's spread over 2 pages. I tried a quick graph hack to visualise, "Number of points required to fill 1 page of stories (30)?" ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/5256341554/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/5256341554/
spoiledtechie 16y ago
any chance with making it dynamic? I tried changing the number from 100 to 10 and it didn't work. Went back to 100.
resdirector 16y ago
I'd like an option alongside noprocrast and showdead: * hidekarma For your view only, it hides the karma in the top right, and hides the number of points next to each article and comment. I, personally, find karma to be a distraction...I'm not afraid to admit that I subconsciously check my karma score every time I log in, and very occasionally catch myself "karma whoring"...that is, writing comments or submitting articles in a way that will improve my karma, instead of concentrating on writing something intelligent (yes, they should be the same, but they're not).
cmadan 16y ago
the tablet article by pg twice is listed twice here. bug? http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=300 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=300
ojbyrne 16y ago
Just a thought that occurred to me. Why does there have to be 2 levels (new and frontpage)? Why not 3 levels. New, Frontpage, "Best" or something.
- JacobAldridge 16y ago
  Something like this - http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best ?
wowfat 16y ago
Good but if everyone starts to filter by 100+ then how will good new submissions make it to the top? We need people looking at new submissions and upvoting good ones all the time!
swah 16y ago
I'm seeing duplicate entries, for example on: http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=250 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=250 The last 4 entries are duplicated.
- by 16y ago
  Curiously I see an example of duplicates with slightly different points. Maybe something is not enclosed properly in a transaction and the list is being generated partly before and partly after an update has been applied. On the 100 points version I see: 27. The only script in your head (headjs.com) 248 points by timf 12 days ago | comments 28. The only script in your head (headjs.com) 247 points by timf 12 days ago | comments
gjenkin 16y ago
This would be a great addition to the nav. I can imagine having 3 modes of viewing submissions: "top" (the current default), "new", and "popular" (for >100 votes). I already switch back and forth between the default (or "top") view and the "new" view. This allows me to get a good mix of seeing what the HN algorithm thinks is interesting, as well as what interesting stuff the community is discovering out there on the web. I can see this being well augmented by a third view that presents what's popular to the HN community. Of course, adding another nav element gets tricky. How many nav links do you need before you start culling or redesigning? FWIW, it seems that grouping nav into 2 sections might be useful. One section would be focused on sorting the stream (top, new, popular). The other section would be focused on filtering the stream (threads, comments, ask, jobs). "Submit" is more of an action than a filter or sort, and might be better positioned as a control outside of the nav.

256 points by pg 16y ago

swah 16y ago

http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=9000 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=9000

shazow 16y ago
Finally, a hackernews I can keep up with.
hasenj 16y ago
http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=500 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=500 Only thing there is the Heroku acquisition
pg 16y ago
Getting no results from over doesn't mean there haven't been any items with that many points (though in fact there haven't been any with 9000 points). Over doesn't pull stuff off disk. It just applies a stricter filter to the pool of recent stories from which the frontpage is generated.
- warp 16y ago
  I assume swah wasn't expecting any results, it is most likely a reference to http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-over-9000 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-over-9000 .

jscore 16y ago

Great, as I was JUST thinking of making a chrome extension to filter posts with 100+ points.

Groxx 16y ago
I've been thinking along those lines as well, but it's kinda hairy to do so... you'd have to load a few (or many, depending on the limit) pages, and inject their results into the viewed-page. Seems like more bandwidth than it's worth. This is (obviously) a better solution though.

jeffmiller 16y ago

Twitter feed with a threshold of 100 points: http://twitter.com/newsyc100 http://twitter.com/newsyc100

chrisaycock 16y ago
Hopefully quant.ly will some day need its own threshold.
eneveu 16y ago
Twitter feed is nice, but the RSS feed is a lot more useful IMO ( http://feeds.feedburner.com/newsyc100 http://feeds.feedburner.com/newsyc100 ). When I first saw your post ( http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-news-overload http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-ne... ), I missed the RSS feed links, and started looking for ways to convert a twitter feed to an RSS feed (I use Google Reader)... But then I saw the light :) By the way, thanks a lot for making this, Jeff. I've been using your feeds almost daily since August. I used to spend a lot of time scanning the /best page for unread articles. No more!

revorad 16y ago

Wow, looks a lot more interesting.

quizbiz 16y ago

It just occurred to me that while I vote up great comments, I don't remember the last time I gave an up-vote to a thread. Am I atypical?

lukeschlather 16y ago
I doubt it. I think most of us are deliberately conservative to offset the lack of downvotes.
- forza 16y ago
  Isn't that the opposite to what you should do? If you are interested in curbing 'bad' stories you should probably vote for more stories, effectively 'downvoting' what you don't vote for.
  - swolchok 16y ago
    Not if you think that a lot of crap gets voted up and truly good stories are few and far between.

Groxx 16y ago

Doesn't seem precise... http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=489 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=489 (489) doesn't see a thread with 490 points, but http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=484 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=484 (484) does. Caching? Rounding? Thread in question: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1990498 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1990498 Still, awesome, many thanks! Especially because it drags up a bunch of good-but-older entries that I may have missed.

pg 16y ago
Oops, that was a bug; fixed.
- Groxx 16y ago
  Yup, works now. Thanks again!
- swah 16y ago
  See, static typing won't help you there!
  - Groxx 16y ago
    I totally got a "where is your god now?!"[1] vibe from this. [1]: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/24/where-is-your-dog-now/ http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/24/where-is-your-dog-n...

Encosia 16y ago

Of course, if many people used that threshold, almost no story would ever reach 100 points in the first place.

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
This, to me, seems to be the dilemma. The more features like this there are, filtering the input so we only see the "good stuff", the fewer eyes there are on the new submissions, and so the greater the chance that really some excellent submissions will never be seen. More and more we're suggesting that people look at the "newest" page instead of just the "news" page to try to make sure that good submissions get their chance, and bad submissions get flagged, and yet here's another facility to take people away from the "newest" page. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great facility, and I'm pretty sure I'll be using it on occasion, but I'll also hang out on the "newest" page, because that's where the genuinely interesting stuff appears, often getting no upvotes, because it was never seen.
- mooism2 16y ago
  Maybe "front-page-with-100-points" is the sort of place newbies should be encouraged to check, and mainly more established users should be encouraged to check "newest".
- ladoo3 16y ago
  Any ideas on how to encourage readers to look at the "newest" page more often?
pg 16y ago
That's why (for now at least) I'm not making it too easy to. It would be trivial to add a threshold field in the profile and use that as a cutoff when generating the frontpage for each user, but since I'm not sure I want encourage this, I haven't yet. The whole thing is just an experiment.
- dochtman 16y ago
  Maybe there should be a random one or two links from the newest page at the top (or the right) of the normal front page?

dholowiski 16y ago

Even better I changed it to 200 points and found some great gems I had missed.

_delirium 16y ago

Any chance of a ranged version, like "over 5, but under 200"? For some reason, while upvoted stories are mostly good, the most upvoted stories less often interest me, since they seem to be disproportionately about politics, business, self-help/motivation, or some sort of drama. This list is almost a perfect list of stories I'd like to filter out: http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best (ok, there's some good stuff in there too, but it's not bad as a heuristic).

xenophanes 16y ago
plus stuff with 500 points stays on the list longer, can get too stale
- listic 16y ago
  No, articles get deprecated quite soon anyway. Try substituting 100 for 500 in the URL: you only get 1 article currently.
  - xenophanes 16y ago
    You're wrong and that test is misleading. http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=200 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=200 I'm seeing 380 points, 11 days old is ahead of 205 points and 4 days old.
greendestiny 16y ago
Someone had a site (I can't remember the details but surely someone will chime in) with custom HN ranking of points divided by number of comments. It was surprisingly effective, though that might have just been the nature of the top stories at the time I checked it. If it did work it would be by also filtering out political and other call-to-action type posts particularly. I'm with you, I hate the drama posts. I have a kind of half-arsed theory that what I dislike in the evolution of social sites is the inherent community building. I think it tends to get too self-referential.

blehn 16y ago

Is it just me, or have the front page point totals exploded in the last few months? pg — care to share any traffic data?

petercooper 16y ago
I've also noticed this. Seemed to be between September-November to me. Links fly off of the first page of /new a lot quicker than before and I've seen a lot of good ones get no further than 2 or 3 points - it's a crapshoot when you submit something now. I've also had a lot more people contact me with "check out this post" type stuff.
- ww520 16y ago
  One of the purposes of Previous Look is to capture the fast changing content of a webpage like /new so that past content can be reviewed quickly. For now http://www.previouslook.com/hnews/new http://www.previouslook.com/hnews/new has an 15-minute interval snapshot window, which seems to be enough to not miss anything.
  - petercooper 16y ago
    I like it, though I might stick to the version I developed two months ago - http://hackerslide.com/ http://hackerslide.com/ - as I prefer HN's natural colors ;-)
    - ww520 16y ago
      That looks cool! Good work.
pg 16y ago
We now get about 80k unique visitors on weekdays. There hasn't been any sudden spike.

gcv 16y ago

While this is a really, really tempting front page, won't this just encourage groupthink? HN doesn't suffer from this as much it might, but it has its share. In addition, interesting stories languish unnoticed on /newest all the time, and if enough people switch to an >100 front page, articles with just 5-10 points have an even smaller chance of being noticed. pg, I'm sure you considered this problem; could you talk a bit about your thinking behind this filter?

pg 16y ago
could you talk a bit about your thinking behind this filter? "A lot of people have asked for it. It would be easy to write. Let's try it and see what happens."
- netcan 16y ago
  Do you have some sort of pre-existing test for whether or not a feature is good at the time you implement it. Some way of knowing if it's good.

Nogwater 16y ago

Can we get filters like this for the official RSS feed?

keyle 16y ago
I agree, this would be very powerful coupled with something like feedmyinbox.

ary 16y ago

This has probably been suggested before, but can we just get rid of the points display (story, comment, & user) altogether? The automated sorting on this data has always been enough for me, and I can't think of a reason why any of us needs to know the exact point total of any of these things (except maybe karma). I suppose there are some out there that would like to know an individual user's karma as a quick indicator of worthiness for X. Aside from this I'd be thrilled to see the number games and measuring sticks go away.

zacharycohn 16y ago
That would be an interesting experiment in preventing the "snowball effect" of upvoting things that a lot of other people have upvoted. Enabling this on the front page, but leaving it on the thread itself would be an interesting experiment.
tomn 16y ago
This doesn't really work, because things with high points can be anywhere on the page after they've stopped getting votes -- if you look at the front page, the stories aren't in point order by any means. Although this would be bad for the community (people need to see the low-point articles for them to get voted on), you could have a page that sorts all stories by number of points, and allows you to remove them either by clicking on them, or marking them as uninteresting. It would solve the 'problem' of missing articles when I'm away at least. I guess you could have some kind of mix of new and highly voted articles, which could be interesting?

da5e 16y ago

I think this is great as an option where we can fill in our own threshold. It's another way to play with the feed. I prefer the "newest" setting myself. It's incredibly quick to scan the headlines to see what I'm in the mood for that day. Or I can search with "news.ycombinator.com: searchterm" if I'm looking some particular subject matter. But sometimes it's fun to visit the lists too. news.ycombinator.com/lists Perhaps a couple of those options should go on the top menu. Maybe the top menu should be Hacker News new 100+ searchterm best active bestcomments etc.

robwgibbons 16y ago

This post itself has almost 100 points. Soon it will be on the 100-point threshold page!

andrewljohnson 16y ago

Not that this type of experiment is bad, but why is the UI so completely neglected? Is this a matter of thinking it's not important, because it's not fun work, or because it can all be customized with grease monkeys? Or what? I think the quality of stories on HN is pretty good. What I'd much prefer to see any amount of attention given to is things like: 1) Let me take back a vote. Particularly on mobile, I misclick those tiny arrows a lot. 2) Let me comment inline. Having other comments, besides the parent around for examination while commenting would probably help overall comment quality. 3) Fix the mobile interface. It's impossible to use HN on mobile iPhone and Android handhelds. Making a slightly modified styled sheet with JavaScript is trivial. 4) Support someone making an app, or commission one. As far as I can tell, the current HN apps are all kind of buggy and have little updating. There are lots of young neophytes who'd love to work on this, particularly if sanctioned, and a funded effort would lead to a better product. These basic UI improvements don't even seem to be on the radar. Also, I'll add, the story-killing on this site is pretty heavy-handed, yet capricious. Same with the title-editing. What constitutes a "hacker-centric" story changes with the mood of the moderators, and the tendency to just change each title to the original headline is misguided. I also think that the special privileges given to YC companies corrupts the whole system. If there were any other community like this, people would be driven away by the neglected UI and the Star Chamber that governs the content. But there isn't, so there's no pressure to do anything but midnight HN science experiments. I should just pray for some competition I guess...

silvestrov 16y ago
A GlimmerBlocker filter which improves the layout for mobile: http://glimmerblocker.org/site/filters/mobile-optimized.xml http://glimmerblocker.org/site/filters/mobile-optimized.xml Pastebin version. css: http://pastebin.com/AE1UzYvU http://pastebin.com/AE1UzYvU js transform of html source: http://pastebin.com/9069JULs http://pastebin.com/9069JULs Most of the improvements could be made by a seperate mobile stylesheet if more classNames were added to the generated html.
da5e 16y ago
The simplicity of the design is one of the main things I like about this site. It's like the things I make for myself: a handy tool.

abecedarius 16y ago

Upvoted just 'cause it was at 99 points. [Added: I think the temptation to do this shows a (minor and obvious) misincentive, like we used to see on IRC when I published weekly stats on the chat in #C.]

itsnotvalid 16y ago

Is there any link to this new feature instead of manually typing this or saving this to a bookmark (or any other ways besides a proper hyper-link)?

damoncali 16y ago

I'd prefer under?points=x The very highly upvoted articles seem more likely to be trendy and/or sensational.

gasull 16y ago

Twitter and RSS feeds for HN stories over 20, 50, 100 and 150 points: http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-news-overload http://jeffmiller.github.com/2010/07/23/a-cure-for-hacker-ne... EDIT: Why the downvotes?

bootload 16y ago

the choice of 100pts is pretty good though it's spread over 2 pages. I tried a quick graph hack to visualise, "Number of points required to fill 1 page of stories (30)?" ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/5256341554/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/5256341554/

spoiledtechie 16y ago

any chance with making it dynamic? I tried changing the number from 100 to 10 and it didn't work. Went back to 100.

resdirector 16y ago

I'd like an option alongside noprocrast and showdead: * hidekarma For your view only, it hides the karma in the top right, and hides the number of points next to each article and comment. I, personally, find karma to be a distraction...I'm not afraid to admit that I subconsciously check my karma score every time I log in, and very occasionally catch myself "karma whoring"...that is, writing comments or submitting articles in a way that will improve my karma, instead of concentrating on writing something intelligent (yes, they should be the same, but they're not).

cmadan 16y ago

the tablet article by pg twice is listed twice here. bug? http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=300 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=300

ojbyrne 16y ago

Just a thought that occurred to me. Why does there have to be 2 levels (new and frontpage)? Why not 3 levels. New, Frontpage, "Best" or something.

JacobAldridge 16y ago
Something like this - http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best ?

wowfat 16y ago

Good but if everyone starts to filter by 100+ then how will good new submissions make it to the top? We need people looking at new submissions and upvoting good ones all the time!

swah 16y ago

I'm seeing duplicate entries, for example on: http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=250 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=250 The last 4 entries are duplicated.

by 16y ago
Curiously I see an example of duplicates with slightly different points. Maybe something is not enclosed properly in a transaction and the list is being generated partly before and partly after an update has been applied. On the 100 points version I see: 27. The only script in your head (headjs.com) 248 points by timf 12 days ago | comments 28. The only script in your head (headjs.com) 247 points by timf 12 days ago | comments

gjenkin 16y ago

This would be a great addition to the nav. I can imagine having 3 modes of viewing submissions: "top" (the current default), "new", and "popular" (for >100 votes). I already switch back and forth between the default (or "top") view and the "new" view. This allows me to get a good mix of seeing what the HN algorithm thinks is interesting, as well as what interesting stuff the community is discovering out there on the web. I can see this being well augmented by a third view that presents what's popular to the HN community. Of course, adding another nav element gets tricky. How many nav links do you need before you start culling or redesigning? FWIW, it seems that grouping nav into 2 sections might be useful. One section would be focused on sorting the stream (top, new, popular). The other section would be focused on filtering the stream (threads, comments, ask, jobs). "Submit" is more of an action than a filter or sort, and might be better positioned as a control outside of the nav.