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I'm not sure you understand their intended usecase for the product - didn't seem to be much of a fashion accessory.

by bowmessage 7y ago

givinguflac 7y ago
I don’t think google understood (understands?) the intended case much either.
- dodobirdlord 7y ago
  > Glass Enterprise Edition has helped workers in a variety of industries—from logistics, to manufacturing, to field services—do their jobs more efficiently by providing hands-free access to the information and tools they need to complete their work. Seems fairly straightforward.
  - IshKebab 7y ago
    Yeah to be fair that's not how it was originally intended. This use-case emerged from previous releases as being the only one where it is actually helpful. Maybe anyway.
    - mynameisvlad 7y ago
      Why is pivoting something to be criticized? They tried something out, it failed, and found that this other use case is far more compelling. For most startups, people would call that a success. Why is it something that's being criticized here? Just because it's Google (or Apple, or Microsoft, or any other big company) doesn't mean they know the right answer from the get-go. They're allowed to fail just as much as anyone else.
  - givinguflac 7y ago
    Yes, and we still use computers how they were originally marketed too . In all seriousness though, see you in a year when this is dead again. Google hasn’t made a single hardware device that has actually stood the test of even a small amount of time yet. One could argue Home mini is the closest thing they have, but it’s still so early for smart speakers. We’ll see.
gamblor956 7y ago
The problem, as with the first Glass V1, which failed miserably, was that it has no actual use case. The display is too small and as too low resolution to provide enough useful information to "logistics, to manufacturing, to field services" workers. As with Glass V1, the only adoption outside of a very small set of Silicon Valley techies, was driven by tech executives, and it was immediately abandoned by workers once the executives stopped forcing them to use it.
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  > The display is too small and as too low resolution to provide enough useful information to "logistics, to manufacturing, to field services" workers. Is that actually the case? Several successful deployments discussed here: https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-2-is-here/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-2-is-here/ GE - GE in particular has been enthusiastic in its Glass tests, claiming a 46 percent decrease in the time it takes a warehouse picker using the product. (Using Glass in this environment is as transformative as in factories—after a successful test, DHL says it plans to roll out Glass in its 2000 warehouses across the globe, where appropriate.) Another pilot project, in GE’s Aviation Division, used EE with a wifi-enabled torque wrench: Glass tells workers whether they are using the proper amount of torque. Eighty-five percent of the workers said that the system would reduce errors. “By the end of this year, we’ll have several sites deploying this,” says Ted Robertson, an engineering manager at GE Aviation. AGCO - AGCO now has just over a hundred Glass units (it pays between $1300 and $1500 for each one), and Gulick says that it plans to order between 500 and 1000 more in the next 18 months as it moves the product into all its functions and in other locations. The company is particularly excited about how Glass helps with training—cutting the time from 10 days to only 3. Dignity Health - “The total time entering data has gone from 33 percent of our day to less than 10 percent,” says Davin Lundquist, the chief medical information officer for Dignity Health, who uses Augmedrix and Glass himself in clinical work. “And direct patient interaction has risen from 35 percent to 70 percent.” More info on AGCO here, they've been using this for years, starting with the consumer version, and have continued to ramp it up: https://www.country-guide.ca/guide-business/agcos-jackson-assembly-plant-expands-the-use-of-google-glass/ https://www.country-guide.ca/guide-business/agcos-jackson-as...
true_religion 7y ago
OP said the resolution was too small, the field of vision too narrow, and the equipment itself too cumbersome to be used by people engaged in manual labour. Those are all technical critiques. What am I missing? Where was it said Enterprise product failed as a fashion accessory? I mean certainly they might be wrong and all the above critiques false, or dealt with via progress to version 2.... but no one mentioned fashion.
- bowmessage 7y ago
  OP edited their comment after I replied - fair points.

I'm not sure you understand their intended usecase for the product - didn't seem to be much of a fashion accessory.

givinguflac 7y ago

I don’t think google understood (understands?) the intended case much either.

dodobirdlord 7y ago
> Glass Enterprise Edition has helped workers in a variety of industries—from logistics, to manufacturing, to field services—do their jobs more efficiently by providing hands-free access to the information and tools they need to complete their work. Seems fairly straightforward.
- IshKebab 7y ago
  Yeah to be fair that's not how it was originally intended. This use-case emerged from previous releases as being the only one where it is actually helpful. Maybe anyway.
  - mynameisvlad 7y ago
    Why is pivoting something to be criticized? They tried something out, it failed, and found that this other use case is far more compelling. For most startups, people would call that a success. Why is it something that's being criticized here? Just because it's Google (or Apple, or Microsoft, or any other big company) doesn't mean they know the right answer from the get-go. They're allowed to fail just as much as anyone else.
- givinguflac 7y ago
  Yes, and we still use computers how they were originally marketed too . In all seriousness though, see you in a year when this is dead again. Google hasn’t made a single hardware device that has actually stood the test of even a small amount of time yet. One could argue Home mini is the closest thing they have, but it’s still so early for smart speakers. We’ll see.

gamblor956 7y ago

The problem, as with the first Glass V1, which failed miserably, was that it has no actual use case. The display is too small and as too low resolution to provide enough useful information to "logistics, to manufacturing, to field services" workers. As with Glass V1, the only adoption outside of a very small set of Silicon Valley techies, was driven by tech executives, and it was immediately abandoned by workers once the executives stopped forcing them to use it.

wlesieutre 7y ago
> The display is too small and as too low resolution to provide enough useful information to "logistics, to manufacturing, to field services" workers. Is that actually the case? Several successful deployments discussed here: https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-2-is-here/ https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-2-is-here/ GE - GE in particular has been enthusiastic in its Glass tests, claiming a 46 percent decrease in the time it takes a warehouse picker using the product. (Using Glass in this environment is as transformative as in factories—after a successful test, DHL says it plans to roll out Glass in its 2000 warehouses across the globe, where appropriate.) Another pilot project, in GE’s Aviation Division, used EE with a wifi-enabled torque wrench: Glass tells workers whether they are using the proper amount of torque. Eighty-five percent of the workers said that the system would reduce errors. “By the end of this year, we’ll have several sites deploying this,” says Ted Robertson, an engineering manager at GE Aviation. AGCO - AGCO now has just over a hundred Glass units (it pays between $1300 and $1500 for each one), and Gulick says that it plans to order between 500 and 1000 more in the next 18 months as it moves the product into all its functions and in other locations. The company is particularly excited about how Glass helps with training—cutting the time from 10 days to only 3. Dignity Health - “The total time entering data has gone from 33 percent of our day to less than 10 percent,” says Davin Lundquist, the chief medical information officer for Dignity Health, who uses Augmedrix and Glass himself in clinical work. “And direct patient interaction has risen from 35 percent to 70 percent.” More info on AGCO here, they've been using this for years, starting with the consumer version, and have continued to ramp it up: https://www.country-guide.ca/guide-business/agcos-jackson-assembly-plant-expands-the-use-of-google-glass/ https://www.country-guide.ca/guide-business/agcos-jackson-as...

true_religion 7y ago

OP said the resolution was too small, the field of vision too narrow, and the equipment itself too cumbersome to be used by people engaged in manual labour. Those are all technical critiques. What am I missing? Where was it said Enterprise product failed as a fashion accessory? I mean certainly they might be wrong and all the above critiques false, or dealt with via progress to version 2.... but no one mentioned fashion.

bowmessage 7y ago
OP edited their comment after I replied - fair points.