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Matches my experience cutting out "white carbs" completely. Now I get all my carbs from raw plant sources. After a few months, the bread aisle in the grocery st

Matches my experience cutting out "white carbs" completely. Now I get all my carbs from raw plant sources. After a few months, the bread aisle in the grocery store smells like a hardware store. I'm leaner, stronger and faster than I've been my entire life. And I eat more than I've ever eaten in my life. I probably eat double what I used to.

thomasahle 7y ago
Bread in "bread aisles" also feels and tastes very different from bread from a bakery or home made. It's so weird and soft.
- jjeaff 7y ago
  You can make bread from scratch that pretty much feels like store bought. As far as light and fluffy. But it definitely won't stay soft and fluffy for nearly as long without the preservatives.
kasperni 7y ago
If you miss bread occasionally I can only recommend this recipe https://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/ https://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/
- oftenwrong 7y ago
  Seems to be down. Here's a snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20181005033813/http://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/ https://web.archive.org/web/20181005033813/http://nordicfood...
- AdmiralAsshat 7y ago
  When I think of "bread", I think of something light and fluffy, with large bubbles in the structure and a good bit of chew. The "stone age bread" looks more like a granola bar. Not bad, mind you, but I don't think it would fulfill that craving very well.
matwood 7y ago
What's considered a 'white carb'? I eat rice a couple times/week with veggies and a protein. I've never seen the need to cut carbs completely. What I did cut out though was things like French fries and potato chips. Sometimes I think people just overthink it. Stop eating food that is clearly junk, and enjoy all the health benefits.
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- mohaine 7y ago
  White rice is pretty much the definition of "white carbs". Its glycemic index is only just behind white bread and brown rice isn't far behind it.
  - shostack 7y ago
    Is there a handy chart or reference for this you could share?
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  - astazangasta 7y ago
    People have been eating white rice for millenia. I don't believe white rice is as bad for you as white bread.
    - Havoc 7y ago
      People have also been dying young for millenia. Not really a good measure of how healthy things are.
      - JakeTheAndroid 7y ago
        And people have been dying in general since the dawn of humanity. Dying young is the effect of far more than food. So I would argue dying young is an equally bad metric to make your case.
radar 7y ago
You're right that 'white carbs' should be pretty much eliminated. However, 100% whole grain bread is still valid and has a good amount of fiber, which white carbs lack.
- jonplackett 7y ago
  In theory you’re right but bread makes me really hungry later. When I stopped eating bread I stopped getting hangry between meals
  - astura 7y ago
    shrug I eat a ton of sandwiches and avocado toast and have absolutely no problems with hunger between meals, I usually eat one meal a day. My hunger level has much more to do with amount of food consumed and timing than anything else.
    - stOneskull 7y ago
      a ton is a big meal
  - lukifer 7y ago
    I've read that modern "dwarf wheat" has an enzyme that interacts with the same neurotransmitters as opiates, prompting withdrawal symptoms if one doesn't have it again in a few days. I've got strong source amnesia and am probably misremembering details: maybe it was from "Grain Brain"? [0]? At any rate, my experience has been pretty similar to yours. [0] https://www.drperlmutter.com/about/grain-brain-by-david-perlmutter/ https://www.drperlmutter.com/about/grain-brain-by-david-perl...
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  But watch out for "enriched". I'm stealing this from somewhere, and I don't recall the source. But someone said "enriched" flour is like this: You're walking down the street. A mugger steals your watch, your wallet (including credit cards), your belt, and your glasses. Then he gives you back your belt and $20 from your wallet, and says, "There, I've enriched you".
lazyjones 7y ago
> Now I get all my carbs from raw plant sources. It's important to know what works for you, other people eat the exact opposite with similar results: https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-carnivore-diet/ https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-carnivore-diet/

thomasahle 7y ago

Bread in "bread aisles" also feels and tastes very different from bread from a bakery or home made. It's so weird and soft.

jjeaff 7y ago
You can make bread from scratch that pretty much feels like store bought. As far as light and fluffy. But it definitely won't stay soft and fluffy for nearly as long without the preservatives.

kasperni 7y ago

If you miss bread occasionally I can only recommend this recipe https://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/ https://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/

oftenwrong 7y ago
Seems to be down. Here's a snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20181005033813/http://nordicfoodliving.com/stone-age-bread/ https://web.archive.org/web/20181005033813/http://nordicfood...
AdmiralAsshat 7y ago
When I think of "bread", I think of something light and fluffy, with large bubbles in the structure and a good bit of chew. The "stone age bread" looks more like a granola bar. Not bad, mind you, but I don't think it would fulfill that craving very well.

matwood 7y ago

What's considered a 'white carb'? I eat rice a couple times/week with veggies and a protein. I've never seen the need to cut carbs completely. What I did cut out though was things like French fries and potato chips. Sometimes I think people just overthink it. Stop eating food that is clearly junk, and enjoy all the health benefits.

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mohaine 7y ago
White rice is pretty much the definition of "white carbs". Its glycemic index is only just behind white bread and brown rice isn't far behind it.
- shostack 7y ago
  Is there a handy chart or reference for this you could share?
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- astazangasta 7y ago
  People have been eating white rice for millenia. I don't believe white rice is as bad for you as white bread.
  - Havoc 7y ago
    People have also been dying young for millenia. Not really a good measure of how healthy things are.
    - JakeTheAndroid 7y ago
      And people have been dying in general since the dawn of humanity. Dying young is the effect of far more than food. So I would argue dying young is an equally bad metric to make your case.

radar 7y ago

You're right that 'white carbs' should be pretty much eliminated. However, 100% whole grain bread is still valid and has a good amount of fiber, which white carbs lack.

jonplackett 7y ago
In theory you’re right but bread makes me really hungry later. When I stopped eating bread I stopped getting hangry between meals
- astura 7y ago
  shrug I eat a ton of sandwiches and avocado toast and have absolutely no problems with hunger between meals, I usually eat one meal a day. My hunger level has much more to do with amount of food consumed and timing than anything else.
  - stOneskull 7y ago
    a ton is a big meal
- lukifer 7y ago
  I've read that modern "dwarf wheat" has an enzyme that interacts with the same neurotransmitters as opiates, prompting withdrawal symptoms if one doesn't have it again in a few days. I've got strong source amnesia and am probably misremembering details: maybe it was from "Grain Brain"? [0]? At any rate, my experience has been pretty similar to yours. [0] https://www.drperlmutter.com/about/grain-brain-by-david-perlmutter/ https://www.drperlmutter.com/about/grain-brain-by-david-perl...
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
But watch out for "enriched". I'm stealing this from somewhere, and I don't recall the source. But someone said "enriched" flour is like this: You're walking down the street. A mugger steals your watch, your wallet (including credit cards), your belt, and your glasses. Then he gives you back your belt and $20 from your wallet, and says, "There, I've enriched you".

lazyjones 7y ago

> Now I get all my carbs from raw plant sources. It's important to know what works for you, other people eat the exact opposite with similar results: https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-carnivore-diet/ https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-carnivore-diet/